Author Topic: "In Portugal the dogma of the faith will always be preserved." (Read 3984 times)

Raoul76 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 15, 2011, 02:47:06 AM »

I no longer have a problem with this, for the reason TKGS said. We don't have the rest of the sentence.

The next word might be "unless":

"In Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved, unless..."

That convinced me. The next clause could completely change the meaning of the sentence.

What I do have a problem with is how the second secret came out after what it was warning about had already happened, and you can see the same pattern forming with the third secret. Meanwhile, I don't need any secrets, because by putting together the Monarch prophecies with the Apocalypse, and then just using whatever insights I have about the present-day, the economic situation, the corrupt governments, and so on, I am not in much doubt about the general direction of the future, though many details are unknown.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #6 on:** March 15, 2011, 08:28:13 AM »

Raoul, good point with "unless".

As for Fatima, which secrets were revealed after the prophecies came true? I thought Our Lady predicted WWI in one of them?

Also how do you explain the miracle of the sun?

Raoul76 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 15, 2011, 10:32:20 AM »

The second secret that predicts WWI, according to many sources, was revealed to Bishop Da Silva in 1941 after World War I had already begun. But Caminus, in another thread, quoted a source saying that Lucia tried to have it released in 1929.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #8 on:** March 15, 2011, 10:55:51 AM »

That may be true Raoul, about Bishop Da Silva revealing them much later however, I always believed all three secrets were revealed during the appearances of Our Lady between May and October 1917, and before WWII. Why would Our Lady tell something after the fact? Just because the secret was not WRITTEN DOWN, doesn't mean it was given prior to the event.

Consider this sign about the coming of WWII, "a night illuminated by an unknown light" According to Fatima Prophecies, "on January 25, 1938, a remarkable display of aurora borealis was visible across Europe, the year before World War II began."

Also you have the miracle of the Incorrupt Body of Blessed Jacinta Marto, Visionary of Fatima to consider.

Matthew · « **Reply #9 on:** March 15, 2011, 11:15:30 AM »

The Miracle of the Sun was witnessed by tens of thousands, including the secular authorities.

I think it was even in the newspaper the next day.