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Online MonsieurValentine

Re: "Fr" Isaac Relyea in Post Falls this week
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2026, 07:55:07 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 07, 2026, 07:26:02 AM
p.s.  Fr Relyea and Fr Hesse are doubtful.  All new rite priests are, no exceptions.  The rite itself is doubtful, no matter how much gaslighting the new-sspx attempts.  They can’t change facts.
And you know this how exactly? Please explain it to those of us who aren't doctors of canon law, saints, or privy to some divine revelation. 
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Re: "Fr" Isaac Relyea in Post Falls this week
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2026, 08:08:37 AM »
Quote from: MonsieurValentine on October 07, 2026, 07:55:07 AM
And you know this how exactly? Please explain it to those of us who aren't doctors of canon law, saints, or privy to some divine revelation.
How new are you to Tradition?  The doubts of the new rites have been docuмented for 40 years.  You need to read some books.  Words were changed in both the ordination/consecration rites. 

The same people who gave us V2 and the new mass, gave us the ordination/consecration changes. 
The same people who push pride "masses" and communion in the hand.
The same people who push heretical ecuмenism, hate Tradition, and love the protestants.  
Connect the dots, bro.
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Re: "Fr" Isaac Relyea in Post Falls this week
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2026, 08:16:52 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 07, 2026, 08:08:37 AM
How new are you to Tradition?  The doubts of the new rites have been docuмented for 40 years.  You need to read some books.  Words were changed in both the ordination/consecration rites. 

The same people who gave us V2 and the new mass, gave us the ordination/consecration changes. 
The same people who push pride "masses" and communion in the hand.
The same people who push heretical ecuмenism, hate Tradition, and love the protestants. 
Connect the dots, bro.
If the pope has supreme authority why was he prohibited from changing the rites of ordination/consecration since they have been changed any number of times previously?
The changes to the mass is a different story and there is no question in my mind it is not simply inferior to the TLM but masonic.
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Re: "Fr" Isaac Relyea in Post Falls this week
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2026, 08:28:33 AM »
Quote from: MonsieurValentine on October 07, 2026, 08:16:52 AM
If the pope has supreme authority why was he prohibited from changing the rites of ordination/consecration since they have been changed any number of times previously?
The changes to the mass is a different story and there is no question in my mind it is not simply inferior to the TLM but masonic.
:confused::confused::confused:  The ordination/consecration rites are SACRAMENTS.  The pope has no authority to change the sacraments or the mass, because these are of divine origin.  The pope is not a supreme ruler who can do anything.  He is bound by Divine Law just like every other Catholic.  

Think through your questions before you post them.
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Re: "Fr" Isaac Relyea in Post Falls this week
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2026, 09:05:50 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 07, 2026, 08:28:33 AM
:confused::confused::confused:  The ordination/consecration rites are SACRAMENTS.  The pope has no authority to change the sacraments or the mass, because these are of divine origin.  The pope is not a supreme ruler who can do anything.  He is bound by Divine Law just like every other Catholic. 

Think through your questions before you post them.
You're claiming the rites of ordination/consecration were exactly the same as the apostles used up to the time of Paul VI?
I think you need a reality check my friend. There is a long history of nepotism in the Church, especially during the Renaissance. 
When some pope wanted to make a nephew a bishop or cardinal there probably wasn't any rite at all. It was like, "congratulations Giuseppe, now you're the bishop of Milan! Go see a tailor for your vestments." And nobody questioned the legitimacy of those clerics. 
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