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"Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
« on: February 02, 2011, 01:07:22 PM »
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    • Perhaps you have heard of "Fr. Francis" a man who dresses like a Franciscan and lives at the chapel his father built in Lafayette, LA?

    He's friends with Tom Droleskey. After being disassociated with Oliver Oravec, he tried latching on to Daniel Dolan and Robert McKenna.

    Most recently we know that he has been in Cullman and took it upon himself to invite anyone interested to Giardina's burial. Currently, he is hosting some from the community there in Lafayette.

    Beware! Things are truly not what they seem. What is the background of "Fr. Francis"? Who is he? If you really want to know the truth, read on...

    http://mortemautemcrucis.blogspot.com/2010/10/reverend-emile-miller.html


    UPDATE:

    A man wrote to CathInfo via e-mail on 7/2/16, with the following letter:

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    Dear Sirs and Madams

    Pax et Bonum

    Clearly you know of what you write and have contacted both sides of the case below to avoid the Sins that may cast your soul into hell for injuring a reputation.  Or from whom do you gather so much news?

    The chapel was not built by Mr. Miller, he was not the main financier of the structure he was a leading member, you do him injury as he never claimed to build it himself.

    It is a Sin then to be friends of Thomas Droleskey?  Who declared this and by what authority?  The ability to be civil and make many friends and am not afraid to talk to anyone, even those who have proven to be injurious.  If that is a sin, then I must be guilty as Christ seemed to speak to the Pharisees and Scribes the prostitutes and sinners. Do not take offence at those I do talk too in order to reap as Christ teaches us to seek all.

    As to Bishop Oravec, there was an agreeable parting, not malice.  Cordial communication continued the last visit being only weeks before his sudden death.  I’ve no Idea what you mean about trying to latch with Bishop Dolan or McKenna.   Cordial relations have been preserved with both by myself, thanks be to God.  Their friendship has been a gift which both have shared with me.

    I had nothing to do with Abbot Giardina’s funeral arrangements, how you come to conclude this, I’ve no Idea. So your knowledge must be more guarded from lying spirits.  I was there at the funeral and mourned for him.  Sorry to offend those who are ready to be offended at mourning.   As to members of that community being with me, yes, two were here years ago, glad your information is so current.  They were cast out before the Abbot’s death, I was asked to take them and I did so with that approbation.  Shall I be more careful and call you next time for permission?

    Some person took your BlogSpot down, Deo Gratias

    Now you must make reparation for your sins by at least an apology and withdrawal of your assertions.

    Should you wish to reach me I am here to ask for first hand facts brave Mr. Anonymous Detractor Calumniator.  As you can see I talk to the sinners.  May God forgive you your whispering campaign to injure clergy by your withdrawal from this pernicious act and a humble admission that you do not know what you do. May you rejoice hearts by a genuine repentance.

    Most of all may God forgive you for your injury to the Mystical Body

    Yours Sincerely in Christ Crucified,

    Fr. Francis OFM

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    Offline Anthony Anthony

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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #1 on: May 15, 2020, 10:51:29 AM »
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    • Francis Miller,
    You call someone a "Calumniator", when you yourself, have slandered, and culminated many people, and priests that were in fact valid.
     The anonymous writer called you out for your dressing like a Franciscan, and he is correct.

    FACT: Francis Miller was expelled as a Franciscan, yet still masquerades as a Franciscan.  (indicated in the letter below)
     FACT: Francis Miller was seen firsthand by several members, handing out Communion to NON Catholics.
     FACT: Francis Miller was seen genuflecting to a Novus Ordo tabernacle at a Monastery.
     FACT: Francis Miller was seen joining in prayer with modernist priests at a grave sight.                                                                     
    FACT: Francis Miller culminated, slandered, and denied the validity of Fr. James Kosek's Ordination.
    FACT: Francis Miller has been under 7 (if not more) Bishops to date, because
              he has aspirations to higher offices and when these are not obtainable, he moves on to another person that may raise him higher..
            
     This letter from Bishop Giles places Francis Miller is his true light:


    September 13, 2019, 7:12:26 AM EST, Bishop Giles OFM <father@friarsminor.org> wrote:
    Dear xxxxxx,
    Please forgive me for I must strive to be kind and truthful. I will try and answer your questions as briefly as possible in truth and charity.
    Father Miller was expelled from our community. He had subsequently entered a community of Benedictines and having left them, he now presents himself as a kind of independent Franciscan. We do not consider him a true Franciscan. He is outside of community life and he submits holy obedience to no one.
     Father Miller is not under my jurisdiction because he will not submit and remain loyal to any vows of obedience that he has made. He will present himself as obedient to various authority for a short time, but I believe he has aspirations to higher offices and when these are not obtainable, he moves on to another person that may raise him higher.
    He acts independently as a priest and as a religious even though this is an obvious contradiction. No priest can act independently of a bishop, nor can a religious act independently of a superior. He has obviously justified all his actions to himself, but they are irreconcilable to me as a true bishop and religious superior.
     May God bless you and yours.
    +Bishop Giles OFM

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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #2 on: May 15, 2020, 12:54:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anthony Anthony on May 15, 2020, 10:51:29 AM
    Francis Miller,
    You call someone a "Calumniator", when you yourself, have slandered, and culminated many people, and priests that were in fact valid.
     The anonymous writer called you out for your dressing like a Franciscan, and he is correct.

    FACT: Francis Miller was expelled as a Franciscan, yet still masquerades as a Franciscan.  (indicated in the letter below)
     FACT: Francis Miller was seen firsthand by several members, handing out Communion to NON Catholics.
     FACT: Francis Miller was seen genuflecting to a Novus Ordo tabernacle at a Monastery.
     FACT: Francis Miller was seen joining in prayer with modernist priests at a grave sight.                                                                      
    FACT: Francis Miller culminated, slandered, and denied the validity of Fr. James Kosek's Ordination.
    FACT: Francis Miller has been under 7 (if not more) Bishops to date, because
             he has aspirations to higher offices and when these are not obtainable, he moves on to another person that may raise him higher..
           
    You address the questions about Emile (Francis) Miller and are right to do so. You lose all credibility when you cover for Kosek. In refusing to deal with the questions surrounding Kosek. Interesting choice name Anthony Anthony.
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    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #3 on: May 15, 2020, 02:57:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anthony Anthony on May 15, 2020, 10:51:29 AM
    Francis Miller,
    FACT: Francis Miller was expelled as a Franciscan, yet still masquerades as a Franciscan.  (indicated in the letter below)
     FACT: Francis Miller was seen firsthand by several members, handing out Communion to NON Catholics.
     FACT: Francis Miller was seen genuflecting to a Novus Ordo tabernacle at a Monastery.
     FACT: Francis Miller was seen joining in prayer with modernist priests at a grave sight.                                                                      
    FACT: Francis Miller culminated, slandered, and denied the validity of Fr. James Kosek's Ordination.
    FACT: Francis Miller has been under 7 (if not more) Bishops to date, because
             he has aspirations to higher offices and when these are not obtainable, he moves on to another person that may raise him higher..
           
     This letter from Bishop Giles places Francis Miller is his true light:

    Bishop Giles is just spouting the same ridiculous nonsense after years of brainwashing by Bishop Vezelis. He claims jurisdiction, that he doesn’t possess, as did Bishop Vezelis.

    Fortunately, Fr. Miller realized that he was in a cult and left.
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    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Sede Vacante
    « Reply #4 on: May 20, 2020, 08:01:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: collapse on May 20, 2020, 12:43:54 AM
    TO Endeavor:

    I am sure you think you should have a D.D. after your name, so let's test that!

    Do you know what Sede Vacante actually means?

    Loquetur Judicium
    Collapse, You are derailing this thread. You do not attack my argument but use a strawman argument claiming that I believe that Doctor Divinitatis after my name. I refuse to enter into a discussion about what sedevacantists believe.
    "Loquetur Judicium" He will speak judgment refers to God and not you.

    Tua vanitas erit, ne te a, non est conversus in hoc argumentum.
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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #5 on: May 20, 2020, 01:09:05 PM »
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    • Anthony Anthony:

    Turn around somethings lost and can't be found! :facepalm:

    Was he asked to remove his habit?
    If so, why does he continue to wear his habit?

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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #6 on: May 20, 2020, 06:35:13 PM »
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    Endeavor:

    Derailing the thread?

    If you "refuse to enter into a discussion about what sedevacantists believe", then why is there a comment at the bottom of all your posts which states "I renounce my formerly held dogmatic sedevacantist opinions."

    Why can't you answer a simple question?


    Talk about derailing the thread, the people who posted were talking about Francis Miller, and you attacked Fr. James Kosek.  Why?

    Tua vanitas erit, ne te a, non est conversus in hoc argumentum.  Your vanity will prevent you in conversing on this argument.  Cute contradiction.

    You argue like a dockside bully, whereas you should argue in truth and in justice.

    I am not passing judgment, you've judged yourself

    Loquetur Judicium
    The comment at the bottom of my posts is an apology to anyone I judged when I was, as Matthew correctly calls it, a dogmatic sedevacantist.
    Anthony Anthony was the first person to mention Kosek and I suggested he hold Kosek's lineage to the same scrutiny he subjects Miller to.
    Might I suggest Crisis in the Church for you to begin a thread on your views of the Papacy? There are many on Cathinfo who are more qualified than I to discuss sedevacantism.
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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #7 on: May 21, 2020, 09:18:23 PM »
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    • In Response to Anonymous:
    Was Francis Miller ordained by Vezelis?
    Who Made Vezelis a Bishop? (Was it George Musey?) 
    Was George Musey Excommunicated by Pius XII?
    Can an Excommunicated Bishop Validly Consecrate Bishops?
    Is Vezelis a valid Bishop?
    Is Francis Miller a valid priest?
    This is what I heard can anyone give me answers. I’m seeking the truth.
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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #8 on: May 21, 2020, 11:08:28 PM »
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    • I received a similar letter from b. Giles.
    I was warned by another bishop to keep my children away from Fr. Miller.
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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #9 on: May 22, 2020, 06:37:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ipso Facto on May 21, 2020, 09:18:23 PM
    Can an Excommunicated Bishop Validly Consecrate Bishops?

    I know nothing about most of the people under discussion here, but the answer to this question is an absolute yes.  There’s absolutely no doubt in Catholic sacramental theology that an excommunicated bishop can VALIDLY ordain and consecrate.

    If a putative excommunication is all you have against the validity of this Fr. Miller, then you have no case whatsoever.
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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #10 on: May 22, 2020, 09:21:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: Venantius0518 on May 21, 2020, 11:08:28 PM
    I received a similar letter from b. Giles.
    I was warned by another bishop to keep my children away from Fr. Miller.
    I have never met Father Miller, but his good name should be protected.
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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #11 on: May 22, 2020, 10:57:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 22, 2020, 06:37:18 AM
    I know nothing about most of the people under discussion here, but the answer to this question is an absolute yes.  There’s absolutely no doubt in Catholic sacramental
    theology that an excommunicated bishop can VALIDLY ordain and consecrate.

    If a putative excommunication is all you have against the validity of this Fr. Miller, then you have no case whatsoever.
    Oh, I’m Sorry I was told that the Bishop Who Ordained Father Miller was excommunicated Vitandus!
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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #12 on: May 22, 2020, 11:36:59 PM »
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    • Fr. Francis Miller, OFM was ordained June 29, 1985 by the late Bishop Louis Vezelis, OFM (1930-2013).
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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #13 on: May 23, 2020, 01:26:59 AM »
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    • Quote from: MrShort94 on May 22, 2020, 11:36:59 PM
    Fr. Francis Miller, OFM was ordained June 29, 1985 by the late Bishop Louis Vezelis, OFM (1930-2013).
    He also serves in Lafayette, LA at Christ the King Catholic Church where he offers the traditional mass.
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    Re: "Father Francis Miller, OFM" - Who is he?
    « Reply #14 on: May 23, 2020, 07:21:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ipso Facto on May 22, 2020, 10:57:07 AM
    Oh, I’m Sorry I was told that the Bishop Who Ordained Father Miller was excommunicated Vitandus!

    It matters not with regard to validity.
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