Author Topic: "Believers and Non-Believers, (Read 748 times)

Lover of Truth · « **on:** April 11, 2014, 02:32:41 PM »

http://novusordowatch.org/wire/index.htm#.U0hAJRBdXeU

Interview No. 7:
"Believers and Non-Believers,
We're All Brothers and Sisters"
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Another day, another "papal" interview. This time, Francis allowed three Belgian young adults to interview him at the Vatican, with a video camera recording the entire talk. The video is available at this link here (the interview proper begins at the 11:29 mark). The interviewers asked their questions in English, while the papal pretender answered in Italian. The subtitles in the video are in Dutch.
So far, the only English translation has been published by Vatican Radio:
"Pope Francis Interview: 'Believers and Non-Believers, we're all Brothers and Sisters'" (Vatican Radio)

We will leave you with this brief but powerful Reality Check from Holy Scripture regarding Bergoglio's disingenuous claim, "Believers and unbelievers, we are all brothers and sisters":

Bear not the yoke with unbelievers. For what participation hath justice with injustice? Or what fellowship hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath the faithful with the unbeliever? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God; as God saith: I will dwell in them, and walk among them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore, Go out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing: And I will receive you; and I will be a Father to you; and you shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
(2 Cor 6:14-18)

Cantarella · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2014, 02:55:33 PM »

Nothing you don't believe already anyway. I'm under the impression that you think that believers and non believers alike can be saved so why the big fuzz about what Francis says? He has not said anything that the modernist BOD / invincible ignorance adherents don't believe in anyway. Everything comes from the same evil root of salvation for non - Catholics and denial of EENS, which you incessantly seek to understand and interpret in order to justify your own modernist sentimental views and make peace with the world.

pax · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11, 2014, 04:57:26 PM »

Believers and unbelievers are brothers and sisters through generation from Adam, not Christ. Even through Christ, we are not brethren with heretics and schismatics.

Luker · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11, 2014, 06:50:54 PM »

Has anyone read these books by Fr Johannes Dormann, " Pope John Paul II's Theological Journey to the Prayer Meeting of Religions In Assisi" ? It is still available from Angelus Press here:

http://angeluspress.org/Books/Catechetics-Theology/C-Theological-Journey-Part-II-Vol-I

I bought it some time ago and flipped through it but forgot about it. I just picked it up and am reading it now. It is very relevant to this discussion. Fr Dormann goes through Fr/Bishop/Cardinal Wotyla's own writings to figure out his theology. Book two is the analysis of the first three encyclicals of John Paul II. Fr Dormann clearly demonstrates a common thread, the existentalist/universal salvation theology of Wotyla is carried over in his theology as John Paul II and perfectly explains his ecuмenism and the Assisi travesties, they were no 'accidents' or the result of a confused or muddled mind.

For any Catholic that has bothered to pick up and flip through a pre-Vatican II Catechism this revelation is going to be most surprising and very troublesome. And as an extra bonus, in a couple of weeks, John Paul II is going to be canonized, raised to the altars of the Church?

"Houston, we have a problem"

Exurge · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2014, 07:06:19 PM »

Quote from: Luker

...they were no 'accidents' or the result of a confused or muddled mind.

The man was a barefaced apostate.

poche · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2014, 01:01:02 AM »

We are all brothers and sisters. This is why Jesus said, "Go out to all the world and preach the Gospel, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."