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Offline Exurge

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"...is to be an impious wretch"
« on: April 06, 2014, 10:34:11 PM »
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    "We must mention and condemn again that most pernicious error, which has been imbibed by certain Catholics, who are of the opinion that those people who live in error and have not the true faith, and are separated from Catholic unity, may obtain life everlasting. Now this opinion is most contrary to Catholic faith, as is evident from the plain words of our Lord, (Matt. xviii. 17 ; Mark xvi. 16; Luke x. 16; John iii. 18) as also from the words of St. Paul, (II. Tim. Iii. 11) and of St. Peter (II. Peter. ii. 1). To entertain opinions contrary to this Catholic faith is to be an impious wretch."


    This quote is supposed to be from Quanto Conficiamur Moerore, but i checked papalencyclicals.net and it isn't there. Is it in another version of it?

    Also, this one:

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    "It is not without sorrow that we have learned another not less pernicious error, which has been spread in several parts of Catholic countries, and has been imbibed by many Catholics, who are of opinion that all those who are not at all members of the true Church of Christ, can be saved: Hence they often discuss the question concerning the future fate and condition of those who die without having professed the Catholic faith, and give the most frivolous reasons in support of their wicked opinion . . . . .


    ...is supposed to be from Nostis et Nobiscuм, but i can't find it in there either.

    Father Mueller gives the dates for those in his book. What's going on here?








    Offline Exurge

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    "...is to be an impious wretch"
    « Reply #1 on: April 07, 2014, 06:25:18 PM »
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    Online Ladislaus

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    "...is to be an impious wretch"
    « Reply #2 on: April 07, 2014, 06:43:45 PM »
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  • Well, that second one appears to be from Singulari Quidam.  Reminds of many here on CI:

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    Not without sorrow we have learned that another error, no less destructive, has taken possession of some parts of the Catholic world, and has taken up its abode in the souls of many Catholics who think that one should have good hope of the eternal salvation of all those who have never lived in the true Church of Christ.  Therefore, they are wont to ask very often what will be the lot and condition after death of those who have not submitted in any way to the Catholic faith, and, by bringing forward most vain reasons, they make a response favorable to their false opinion.

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    "...is to be an impious wretch"
    « Reply #3 on: April 07, 2014, 06:50:39 PM »
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  • As for the first quote, the beginning does appear to come from Quanto Conficiamur, but the last part might be a reference to something in Singulari Quidam.  Not sure about that one.

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    "...is to be an impious wretch"
    « Reply #5 on: April 07, 2014, 08:23:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    As for the first quote, the beginning does appear to come from Quanto Conficiamur, but the last part might be a reference to something in Singulari Quidam.  Not sure about that one.


    Singulari Quidam (1854) or Singulari Quidem (1856)? Both can be easily confused.