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"We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
« on: January 05, 2020, 09:25:08 AM »
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    • Article from: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/armstrong/muslims-are-converting-to-christianity-in-record-numbers

    Muslims Are Converting to Christianity in Record Numbers
    How are so many conversions taking place in oppressive countries where proselytizing can bring a death sentence?
    Patti Armstrong

    “We are in a time of the first ever mass conversions of Muslims,” Father Mitch Pacwa SJ told me in a phone interview. “God is doing a mighty work among them.”
    Pacwa is a host for EWTN radio and TV, a frequent pilgrim guide to the Holy Land and is fluent in 13 languages including Arabic. He is considered an expert on the Middle East and produced the DVD Christianity & Islam: Are We at War? and co-authored Inside Islam: A Guide for Catholics.

    Pacwa said he began hearing talk of conversions to Christianity around 2005 on Al Jazeera Television, the Arabic news satellite TV channel with 80 bureaus around the world. “They were reporting on the mass conversions of Muslims—as many as 6-8 million—in sub-Saharan, Africa, and they have repeated the warning every year,” he said. “I’ve confirmed it with Africans I know who have told me again and again about conversions in places like Nigeria, Uganda, Mali … that’s why Boko Haram has become so active. They are actually quite scared and trying to terrorize. But the very act of terrorizing people has ended up with people becoming more disgusted with Islam.”
     
    Bad Public Relations

    The violence of Islamic terrorists has made for bad PR, according to Pacwa. For instance, he recalled hearing someone on African TV say: “Al-Qaida attacks Americans by blowing up our embassies but we Africans are the ones that die in the attacks.” He suspects that Islam is at the beginning of a collapse, likening increased terrorism to the supernova stage where stars burn brightest just before they burn out.

    Pacwa gave recent examples of heinousness retribution for rejecting Islam. “Not long ago I read about a boy who was a slave that snuck out to pray on Good Friday and was crucified for it,” he said. “I also heard about two Filipino maids that were caught with the New Testament and beheaded.”

    Americans caught practicing Christianity in Muslim countries are usually expelled but according to Pacwa, it’s much different for citizens. “Fridays after the noon prayers is the day they cut off hands and heads from thieves, adulterers—women only—and people who commit blasphemy, and that would include converting to Christianity.”

    Yet, despite such risks, Pacwa said that mass conversions are happening even in very fundamentalist countries. There is rapidly growing number of conversions especially on the edges of the Muslim world in the western and southern parts of Africa, he said. “Africa is now growing predominantly Christian despite crackdowns,” Pacwa said.

    Some of the noteworthy countries he mentioned include Iran, reported to have 3 million Christians, and Indonesia with reports of 2 million a year converting. (Here is a video of a Muslim Indonesian family that converted, explaining that they now pray to Allah as Father, Son—Jesus is called Isa—and Holy Spirit.)

    “In Mongolia, the president opened the country to Christians and there’s even an archbishop,” Pacwa said. “They built a Catholic school there too. If I was younger, I would have gone.” He said that the desire for a Western education was the impetus to open up the country to the Catholic Church.

    Mongolia now has around 1,000 Catholics and three churches. “It has gone from a mission in 1991-2003 to a prefect apostolic which means they have a     bishop, although it is not yet formally a diocese,” Pacwa said. “They have had their first native Mongolian ordained a priest and there are three Mongolian seminarians.

    There are even conversions happening in many strict Muslim countries, according to Pacwa. He did not want to go on record with particulars for fear of increased retribution. Mass conversions are also being reported among refugees that are filling up the Christian churches left empty by Europeans. Many wonder if those are authentic conversions or just a response to improving their chances for amnesty, but time will tell.

    Signs of this conversion are showing up in the U.S. too, Pacwa said. “I was about to celebrate Mass at a Maronite church in San Diego and I said hi to a man who introduced himself as Achmad. I asked if he was a Christian. He said: ‘Yes, I was recently baptized.’ He said he from Morocco. Christians do not have the name Ahmad—that’s a form of Mohammad.”
     
    Source of Conversions

    How are so many conversions taking place in oppressive countries where proselytizing can bring a death sentence? “A large number of Muslims are receiving visions of Jesus and the Blessed Virgin Mary that has led them to convert,” Pacwa said. “Many of these stories can be seen online.”

    Another big source of conversions, according to Pacwa, is through Father Peter (Butros) Zakariam, a Coptic Orthodox priest exiled from Egypt known as the most wanted man in the Muslim world. He does a TV show every Friday, which is broadcast to 60 million Arabs, and a six-hour internet discussion show every Tuesday and Thursday. There are also many videos on the internet of him boldly proclaiming Christianity and denouncing Islam.

    “The Muslims have a price on his head—$60 million,” Pacwa said. “He’s in hiding but moves around. He keeps producing these TV shows and attacks Islam because he is brilliant in his knowledge of the Quran and he is fearless.”

    To learn more about Father Zakariam go here.
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #1 on: January 05, 2020, 09:33:06 AM »
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    • I've been hearing that figure of 2 million converting every year in Indonesia for a number of years now, but I've yet to see any confirmation of it.
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #2 on: January 05, 2020, 09:44:15 AM »
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    • Quote from: XavierSem on January 05, 2020, 09:25:08 AM
    Article from: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/armstrong/muslims-are-converting-to-christianity-in-record-numbers

    Muslims Are Converting to Christianity in Record Numbers
    How are so many conversions taking place in oppressive countries where proselytizing can bring a death sentence?
    Patti Armstrong

    “We are in a time of the first ever mass conversions of Muslims,” Father Mitch Pacwa SJ told me in a phone interview. “God is doing a mighty work among them.”
    Pacwa is a host for EWTN radio and TV, a frequent pilgrim guide to the Holy Land and is fluent in 13 languages including Arabic. He is considered an expert on the Middle East and produced the DVD Christianity & Islam: Are We at War? and co-authored Inside Islam: A Guide for Catholics.

    Pacwa said he began hearing talk of conversions to Christianity around 2005 on Al Jazeera Television, the Arabic news satellite TV channel with 80 bureaus around the world. “They were reporting on the mass conversions of Muslims—as many as 6-8 million—in sub-Saharan, Africa, and they have repeated the warning every year,” he said. “I’ve confirmed it with Africans I know who have told me again and again about conversions in places like Nigeria, Uganda, Mali … that’s why Boko Haram has become so active. They are actually quite scared and trying to terrorize. But the very act of terrorizing people has ended up with people becoming more disgusted with Islam.”...............
     But, your pope thinks this is a bad thing.....
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #3 on: January 05, 2020, 09:46:06 AM »
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    • Xavier, are you more Catholic than your pope?
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #4 on: January 05, 2020, 09:59:13 AM »
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    • Would that be converting to Christianity, as in Traditional Catholic, Novus Ordo, or some other Protestant sect?
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #5 on: January 05, 2020, 01:35:21 PM »
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    But, your pope thinks this is a bad thing.....
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    Xavier, are you more Catholic than your pope?
    This is just negativity and meanness that is uncalled for.  Your zeal for your sede-OPINION has turned you to attack a story of conversions?  What is your problem, man?  You need to check yourself.
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #6 on: January 05, 2020, 02:01:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on January 05, 2020, 01:35:21 PM
    This is just negativity and meanness that is uncalled for.  Your zeal for your sede-OPINION has turned you to attack a story of conversions?  What is your problem, man?  You need to check yourself.
    Naturally, I definitely think any true conversion to the Catholic Church in a wonderful grace from God. By pointing out that your pope doesn’t believe that these people should convert, is negative and mean, is quite strange. 
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #7 on: January 05, 2020, 02:06:08 PM »
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    By pointing out that your pope doesn’t believe that these people should convert, is negative and mean, is quite strange. 
    It's an unnecessary comment that is off topic.  You feel impelled to insert the "papal question" into every topic because you're obsessed.
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #8 on: January 05, 2020, 02:46:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on January 05, 2020, 02:06:08 PM
    It's an unnecessary comment that is off topic.  You feel impelled to insert the "papal question" into every topic because you're obsessed.
    Granted, the OP doesn't bring up sedevacantism, but let's not pretend that Xavier isn't obsessed with anathematizing sedevacantists ...k?
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #9 on: January 05, 2020, 02:46:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on January 05, 2020, 02:06:08 PM
    It's an unnecessary comment that is off topic.  You feel impelled to insert the "papal question" into every topic because you're obsessed.
    Seriously, you have issues. You lie and say that I “insert the "papal question" into every topic” and then say I’m obsessed. Sorry if you are perplexed by the contradiction. Maybe you should undergo some introspection and try to understand your reasons why you hate hearing the truth. Honestly, every liberal I’ve ever had a serious discussion with, complains in the same manner as you, being mean and negative. Remember, to thine own self be true.
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #10 on: January 05, 2020, 02:48:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on January 05, 2020, 02:46:09 PM
    Granted, the OP doesn't bring up sedevacantism, but let's not pretend that Xavier isn't obsessed with anathematizing sedevacantists ...k?
    Exactly!
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #11 on: January 05, 2020, 03:16:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on January 05, 2020, 02:46:09 PM
    Granted, the OP doesn't bring up sedevacantism, but let's not pretend that Xavier isn't obsessed with anathematizing sedevacantists ...k?

    Xavier Sem doesn't seem to understand that sedevacantists enjoy a sort of "protected victim" status here on Cath Info, similar to how the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and trannys have a special victim status in the secular world at large. No other forums would have them (why is that, I wonder?)

    The sedevacantists have a SAFE SPACE here, in which they can truly express their FEELINGS about the papacy, without fear of being banned, though at least for now, they can be debated and argued with. No doubt the sedes would refer that no one ever question their views.
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #12 on: January 05, 2020, 03:36:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on January 05, 2020, 03:16:57 PM
    Xavier Sem doesn't seem to understand that sedevacantists enjoy a sort of "protected victim" status here on Cath Info, similar to how the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and trannys have a special victim status in the secular world at large. No other forums would have them (why is that, I wonder?)

    The sedevacantists have a SAFE SPACE here, in which they can truly express their FEELINGS about the papacy, without fear of being banned, though at least for now, they can be debated and argued with. No doubt the sedes would refer that no one ever question their views.
    Thought we were ignoring one another Meg.  Couldn't help yourself, huh?
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #13 on: January 05, 2020, 03:50:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on January 05, 2020, 03:16:57 PM
    Xavier Sem doesn't seem to understand that sedevacantists enjoy a sort of "protected victim" status here on Cath Info, similar to how the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and trannys have a special victim status in the secular world at large. No other forums would have them (why is that, I wonder?)

    The sedevacantists have a SAFE SPACE here, in which they can truly express their FEELINGS about the papacy, without fear of being banned, though at least for now, they can be debated and argued with. No doubt the sedes would refer that no one ever question their views.
    Hey Meg, you want to to know my true feelings about the papacy? I love the papacy more than my life! I have more respect for the papacy in the tip of my little finger than you have in your whole body! I pray for a true pope so I can follow him, so I don’t have to take it upon myself to make any theological decisions. I respect the papacy, unlike you who treats the man you call your pope like some apostate. Oh, maybe I’m on to something, could it be because he is an apostate? Because he is an heretic? Because he isn’t, in fact, a Catholic?

    One more thing, by writing the above, you show horrible disrespect for Matthew and you accuse him of injustice. You are a real piece of work. 
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    Re: "We are in a time of the first ever Mass Conversion of Muslims to Christ"
    « Reply #14 on: January 05, 2020, 03:51:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on January 05, 2020, 03:36:54 PM
    Thought we were ignoring one another Meg.  Couldn't help yourself, huh?
    Semi dogmatic R&Rs can’t help themselves.
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