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Title: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Matto on September 09, 2019, 08:09:52 PM
What are good ways to listen to music? I only have my laptop computer and a radio and a TV. For my birthday I want to get a better way to listen to music. I used to have a Bose CD player and radio but it broke years ago. I know nothing about music technology.

I own one CD of monks chanting a requiem Mass and there are lots of old CDs or rock and roll music that I don't want to listen to anymore, except as a way to listen so that I could learn about sin. I told my brother about rock and roll music that I could listen to rock music but that it sounded like all the musicians were left-handed and then he went into the whole surprised you don't think that left-handed people are really evil and I was like, kind of yes and no, in the land of legend left-handed people are evil but not all of them are in literal world, but there is a reason the nuns used to teach left-handed students how to write with their right hand. Then he said Ned Flanders wasn't evil. But, yes, left-handed.

I would like to listen to Church music and classical music. I don't know what the best was to listen to it is instead of my computer. I would not want to spend a lot of money but I would want speakers. Thanks for any advice.
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Matthew on September 09, 2019, 09:43:56 PM
There is absolutely zero correlation between being left-handed and being sinister or evil. It is an accident of genetics which hemisphere of the brain is dominant for writing.

While we're on the topic, there is absolutely nothing wrong with owning a black cat as a pet.

This is one of the few ways in which we today, are superior to, and more enlightened than, the ancients.

500 years ago many Christians in the Old World used to doubt that the savages in far-off lands had souls -- they wondered if they were human. Shall we re-visit that darkness and ignorance as well?
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Matto on September 10, 2019, 06:31:53 AM
This is one of the few ways in which we today, are superior to, and more enlightened than, the ancients.

There are lots of "old wives tales" and legends that used to be believed. Traditions believed by old people. One of them is that baldness in men is caused by masturbation. Was that true? Perhaps sometimes? And why black cats? Why a mirror seven years? I try to think of such things. Why did the wicked witch dissolve and melt away when she touched water like the great flood or Baptism washed away the sins of the world? Things like that, old legends interest me. Or take vampire stories. What is the significance of the ways to kill a vampire?

But as interesting as legends are I am pulling my own thread off topic. So what is a good an inexpensive way to listen to music?
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Pax Vobis on September 10, 2019, 07:11:42 AM
You can find some used computer speakers at a yard sale or goodwill.  Some have 3 speakers - left, right and base.  They’ll have a power plug and an audio jack.  Sound really nice.  Sign up for Pandora.com for free and you can search for Gregorian chant, Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin - whatever you want.  (Maybe a little Ozzy Osborn for old times sake....haha j/k).
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Vintagewife3 on September 10, 2019, 07:22:45 AM
There are lots of "old wives tales" and legends that used to be believed. Traditions believed by old people. One of them is that baldness in men is caused by masturbation. Was that true? Perhaps sometimes? And why black cats? Why a mirror seven years? I try to think of such things. Why did the wicked witch dissolve and melt away when she touched water like the great flood or Baptism washed away the sins of the world? Things like that, old legends interest me. Or take vampire stories. What is the significance of the ways to kill a vampire?

But as interesting as legends are I am pulling my own thread off topic. So what is a good an inexpensive way to listen to music?
They believed it because they were uneducated to the truth, and wanted answers for things they couldn’t explain. And Yes, as a way to control people. It’s easier to control with fear...

I just use my iPhone with a Bluetooth speaker you can get at Walmart for $10. It’s loud enough to hear from 2 rooms away
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Ladislaus on September 10, 2019, 08:32:06 AM
Well, the reason that kids used to be forced to go right-handed was a practical one.  In languages that move from left to right, if you're writing with the left hand, then your hand trails the pen on the paper, and there's a tendency to drop the hand onto the paper and smear the ink before it has had a chance to dry.  And the fact that Hebrew and some other languages go from right to left suggests that a lot of their scribes were actually left-handed.

Kids who right left-handed in school today have a very difficult an unnatural way they hold the pen and elevate their hand above the paper for this very reason.

Of course, in a lot of public schools, they barely teach them to write with pen on paper anymore ... but go straight to keyboard.
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Clemens Maria on September 10, 2019, 08:54:40 AM
Well, the reason that kids used to be forced to go right-handed was a practical one.  In languages that move from left to right, if you're writing with the left hand, then your hand trails the pen on the paper, and there's a tendency to drop the hand onto the paper and smear the ink before it has had a chance to dry.
Yes and anyone who writes with the left hand knows this only too well.  Even with ball-point pens your hand will be covered with ink.  With the old quill pens it would have been a complete illegible mess.
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Admin on September 10, 2019, 09:21:09 AM
There are lots of "old wives tales" and legends that used to be believed. One of them is that baldness in men is caused by masturbation. Was that true? Perhaps sometimes?

Yeah, "sometimes" -- the same way a broken clock is right twice a day: by accident.

I dare you to bring up that theory to Fr. Scott Gardner, SSPX who was bald by his 20's. His English classmate Fr. Gary Holden had a large natural tonsure as well.

Sodomites should all look like trolls, by this logic. Certainly they should all be bald. Wouldn't this work for women as well as men? Sorry, but there are WAY TOO FEW bald women for this to be true.

Bill Clinton has all his hair, for crying out loud! Do you honestly believe Bill Clinton is above-average in his chastity? ROFLMAO!
I'm pretty sure Hugh Hefner of Playboy infamy had all his hair as well. And I'm sure I could come up with hundreds of other such examples. Just look at Hollywood! Do you think any of them practice chastity? (either perfect chastity for the single, or chastity within marriage for the married)

And apparently (according to this old wives' tale) some nations are significantly more prone to this vice, since genetics I mean solitary sin -- predisposes certain ethnicities to going bald. And other races/ethnic groups almost always keep their hair until death. Going grey is the same situation: Slavs and Germans, for example, keep their natural hair color well into their 70's and beyond. Other ethnicities, like the Irish/English, often go grey in their 20's. It's 100% genetics. It has zero to do with lifestyle.

I'm not normally one to pick up the pom poms for science, but Old Wives Tales like this is one of those few rare times the "olden days" come out smelling like dung, and hooray for science!
Catholics aren't supposed to be against true science, by the way. Science is supposed to be about truths of the natural order.
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Matto on September 10, 2019, 09:51:07 AM
Yeah, "sometimes" -- the same way a broken clock is right twice a day: by accident.

I am not saying that all baldness really is caused by the solitary sin. One of the prophets was bald and children made fun of him and he scolded them for making fun of his baldness because God made him that way and God was angry at the children and they were devoured by bears. So obviously his baldness was caused by God and not his sins.

But old wives tales come from somewhere and I want to understand and learn about them. And there are such tales from Catholic people and not just unbelievers. I do not think most of them were made up lies. But I think rather they were observations that people have noticed over the centuries. Kind of like stereotypes. They are not true for all but there are trends that are common. Like people talk about negative stereotypes about blacks. Or the typical Jew nose.

I am not talking literally here. I am talking about stories and legend. Obviously not all left-handed people are literally children of the devil.
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Matto on September 10, 2019, 11:26:30 AM
I am leaning towards getting a blue tooth speaker so I can play songs from my computer on a better speaker. I just have to make sure it works with my low-end computer which I believe it should.

Does anyone have experience with these gadgets?
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Vintagewife3 on September 10, 2019, 01:57:28 PM
I am leaning towards getting a blue tooth speaker so I can play songs from my computer on a better speaker. I just have to make sure it works with my low-end computer which I believe it should.

Does anyone have experience with these gadgets?
The little guy I got from Walmart works pretty darn well! Again, it was only $10, but they have another one that’s pretty good for $15.
Actually, I’m sorry, the one I got now is from target. My first one was from Walmart, BUT both were ten dollars. Target has the speakers still too.
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Matto on September 10, 2019, 04:01:55 PM
The little guy I got from Walmart works pretty darn well! Again, it was only $10, but they have another one that’s pretty good for $15.
Actually, I’m sorry, the one I got now is from target. My first one was from Walmart, BUT both were ten dollars. Target has the speakers still too.

Could you please let us know the brand and model, so I can look it up online and compare reviews and descriptions. Thanks. It is heartening that you can get a good one for ten dollars. I have a bigger budget than that so if yours is good I should be able to get a great one.
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: TKGS on September 10, 2019, 09:09:39 PM
There is absolutely zero correlation between being left-handed and being sinister or evil. It is an accident of genetics which hemisphere of the brain is dominant for writing.
I been Ayn Randed, nearly branded
Communist, 'cause I'm left-handed
That's the hand I use, well, never mind.
                                                       --Paul Simon
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Matto on September 11, 2019, 07:41:50 PM
My father got me a Bose Color II Sound Link. So far it is great. The sound is good for a small speaker. It was probably overpriced but I am happy. It works from the bedroom to the living room one floor down. I have yet to see if it works from the second floor to the basement. I hope it does. Or even from the bedroom to outside on the front stoop or the backyard. That would be great. I listened to the first movement of Mozart's 40th symphony from my computer. I could really hear the different instruments. And my father is now listening to profane music from his iphone.

I am happy. It was my birthday present. My birthday was yesterday. Now all I have to do is buy some Kahlua and Stoli and I can have a party. But we would have to clean the house.

Arty Roniger had Archbishop Lefebvre over to his house for dinner once. Perhaps I could invite Bishop Williamson over to my house. We could listen to Beethoven. 
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: Vintagewife3 on September 11, 2019, 07:50:00 PM
Could you please let us know the brand and model, so I can look it up online and compare reviews and descriptions. Thanks. It is heartening that you can get a good one for ten dollars. I have a bigger budget than that so if yours is good I should be able to get a great one.
If you go to target in their electronics section the have a target brand there. I’m sorry but I don’t remember the name!
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: David Slays Goliath on September 13, 2019, 02:57:36 PM
I really like The Outlaws' song Green Grass and High Tides
Title: Details needed/Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: AlligatorDicax on September 28, 2019, 05:15:20 PM

For my birthday I want to get a better way to listen to music. [....].

Ummm, don't we all?

I assume that for a birthday, you want something more than merely better what you got now.

It's worth pointing out that in general, it's difficult for CathInfo members to advise you without some information about the limits to prices that you or generous family might underwrite.  Readers typically know nothing not only about financial limits under which you or your family routinely lives, but also about your freedom to occasionally indulge yourselves.

It now seems that you (‘Matto’) are the recipient of a birthday solution for which you're grateful, so my comment above on price is for the benefit of future similar inquiries from CathInfo members to this (sub)forum.
Title: Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: claudel on September 28, 2019, 06:11:53 PM

… I only have my laptop computer and a radio and a TV. … I would want speakers.

Matto: While I think that the comments of AlligatorDicax are very sound, I am nonetheless willing to bite the bullet and go for a few numbers.

If (1) you are on a limited budget and (2) your main or only source for music is a laptop and (3) you want true high-fidelity sound, good headphones and a DAC/headphone amp unit are your best alternatives. Together they might set you back between $300 and $400, but if you love music, real music, it's an expenditure you are unlikely ever to regret. If you want a CD player, one of moderately good quality can be bought used via one of the audio enthusiast sites or eBay for about $200, give or take $50. If you want speakers that make music sound like music, you might need a more powerful amp to drive them, too. Think $200 more.

I'd be happy to offer you specific recommendations if you want them; just PM me.
Title: Re: Details needed/Re: What is the best way to listen to music now?
Post by: AlligatorDicax on September 28, 2019, 08:00:22 PM

Ummm, don't we all?

My earlier posting notwithstanding, in some larger metropolitan areas, it might be possible--and make sense--to repair audio or video-playing equipment that is now sadly nonoperational, by recourse to audiophile-oriented shops.  That's for equipment that was originally costly in earlier years.  Assuming that you still got it around somewhere [*].

For equipment that plays rotating media, e.g., LPs, CDs, the problem to be resolved can be as simple as a rubber belt that needs to be replaced [×].  Some senior-citizen members would be quite happy to regain the use of much-better-than-average-quality audio or video-playing equipment (bought back in more affluent earlier years when they could afford their purchase) via a gift of repair from family memebers.

I'm thinking especially of repairing CD-players, because possessing music CDs avoids major issues with the intellectial-property entanglements.  With analog player signals fed to an analog amplifier and analog speakers that're operational, the issue becomes how loud you dare crank up the speakers.

CathInfo members have no idea what audio coverage you're seeking unless you tell us.  R.g., I have only an apartment to fill with music, so altho I would like the audio coverage that a front-rm. & back-rm. set of speakers would provide, I can get by with 1 set.  Readers with a multistory house and outdoor space would probably make different choices, including indulging in wireless protocols to avoid the cost & hassles of installing signal cables (e.g., 2-lead analog or cat.-whatever Ethernet).

Beware that an analog player can't transfer digital data (e.g., there won't be a USB or Bluetooth port); that's the rational basis for disparaging them as obsolete.

For digical players, widespread techie sentiments consider it vere dignum et justum est to extract digital music from audio CDs (the violent-named process ripping) [#] that one legitimately owns.  This can be accomplished from CD-equipped systems at least as old as Win98SE.  The appeal is that regardless of the system on which a music track is ripped, the resulting file can be saved & played on any computer to whose hardware you can transfer it (e.g., older computers have limited--or no--support for storing a file on newer devices that are convenient for transferring a large music file onto a newer camputer).

Listening to music without (physical) CDs, submitting to paying for music downloads that can only be played on 1 PC, risks the future exasperation of paying again at full price to move the identical previously paid music from a suddenly nonoperational PC to its replacement PC.

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Note *: Well-made equipment that's decades-old (i.e. 1999 or earlier) might be robust enough to resist EMP attack.  But that might not matter if (hah! when?) the power grid gets fried anyhow.

Note ×: May God smite any audio or video-playing manufacturers whose rubber belts and other really inexpensive parts are so pointlessly proprietary that they can't be trivially replaced!

Note #: There are several defensible choices for a digital format to which music on individual CD tracks can be ripped for legitimate personal preservation.  I consider that discussion or debate to be out of scope for this topic (which surprisingly has already been fouled by its originator himself).