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Offline 2Vermont

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Re: Various Croix Accounts
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2020, 08:26:33 PM »
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  • Another weak woman who can't take the heat after she dishes it out?

    No. Don't leave, if you don't want to leave.

    I'll keep coming back until Matthew removes the ban of my original IP (under Croix de Fer). I want it removed so I can easily surf this site for archives. Once that ban is removed, I will not make a new account here, nor will I post as Croix, unless I'm invited back. You all have my word.
    When I have told you you're not Catholic?  I have never dished that out.  But you continue to attack me by saying I'm not Catholic and still a Jєω.  Yeah I'll admit it. That hurts.  If that makes me a weak woman so be it.  Must make you feel like a real man to make a woman cry...but hey it's just a Jєω's' feelings right?  I'm so done with your attacks.  You need to shut your trap for good.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #31 on: June 14, 2020, 08:32:03 PM »
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  • You all have my word.
    The word of a multi confirmed liar 🤥 .
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #32 on: June 14, 2020, 08:44:42 PM »
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  • When I have told you you're not Catholic?  I have never dished that out.  But you continue to attack me by saying I'm not Catholic and still a Jєω.  Yeah I'll admit it. That hurts.  If that makes me a weak woman so be it.  Must make you feel like a real man to make a woman cry...but hey it's just a Jєω's' feelings right?  I'm so done with your attacks.  You need to shut your trap for good.
    Frankly, I’m considering leaving also. Matthew needs to recruit more moderators in order to moderate the forum properly. 
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #33 on: June 14, 2020, 09:39:04 PM »
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  • When I have told you you're not Catholic?  I have never dished that out.  But you continue to attack me by saying I'm not Catholic and still a Jєω.  Yeah I'll admit it. That hurts.  If that makes me a weak woman so be it.  Must make you feel like a real man to make a woman cry...but hey it's just a Jєω's' feelings right?  I'm so done with your attacks.  You need to shut your trap for good.
    He’s not worth crying over. I have to shake my head when I recall that certain members of this forum questioned my suspicion that Croix is a non-Catholic. Folks, for all you know Croix could be a Jєω, a Mussulman, an atheist, or even a Satanist. Two things are absolutely certain: 1) he’s not a good Catholic (if in fact he is one, which I highly doubt) and 2) he’s a brazen liar.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #34 on: June 15, 2020, 06:11:41 AM »
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  • He’s not worth crying over. I have to shake my head when I recall that certain members of this forum questioned my suspicion that Croix is a non-Catholic. Folks, for all you know Croix could be a Jєω, a Mussulman, an atheist, or even a Satanist. Two things are absolutely certain: 1) he’s not a good Catholic (if in fact he is one, which I highly doubt) and 2) he’s a brazen liar.

    For all we know, you could be a Jєω, etc.  It is the nature of an online forum that it is always possible that people are not who they say they are.  Croix de Fer, however, joined Cathinfo in 2011 (originally under the name ascent, later changing, with permission, to Croix de Fer) when he was very new to traditional Catholicism and has a continuous history here of thousands of posts.  He was a member in good standing until he was banned around two years ago.  In protest of being banned he started a campaign of trolling the forum using multiple accounts.

    He spent years as a normal poster participating in the forum.  At first, he asked a lot of questions and advice as one would expect of a new trad.  Over time he developed opinions on a range of topics, none of them especially unusual for CI.  He wrote about his pets.  He responded to prayer requests with prayers.  There is a seven year posting history showing a consistent picture of a traditional Catholic, much like any of us, and there is no real reason to question that.

    While I do not approve of his trolling campaign, I can understand that he believes he was unjustly banned and feels resentment.  This does not make him a horrible person nor an especially bad Catholic. And  I have no idea where the accusation that he is a liar comes from.  I cannot think of any evidence to support that claim. You started this thread claiming that you were going to stop attacking Croix and yet you continue to do so throughout.  There is more reason to question your honesty than his.

    You QVD have only been a member here a bit over a year, so you are probably unaware of all this.  You don't have a sense of ascent/Croix as person or know anything about the circuмstances under which he was banned.  You are basing conclusions on a limited subset of the available information, making it highly unlikely that you are correct.


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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #35 on: June 15, 2020, 06:24:56 AM »
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    I'll keep coming back until Matthew removes the ban of my original IP (under Croix de Fer). I want it removed so I can easily surf this site for archives. Once that ban is removed, I will not make a new account here, nor will I post as Croix, unless I'm invited back. You all have my word.
    My reading of Matthew's character is that he does not respond to threats with compliance.  I do not expect this to achieve your goal.  It is more likely to antagonize Matthew and make him more determined to oppose you.

    I think you would be more successful if you stop trolling, write to Matthew privately and apologize for breaking the forum rules, and politely request that he give you a legit account.  

    (For what it's worth, I would accept your word.)

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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #36 on: June 15, 2020, 06:28:08 AM »
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  • Solid, analytical advice.

    I like Jaynek !  :cowboy:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #37 on: June 15, 2020, 07:13:32 AM »
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  • Thank you Quo.  I know that your recent posts against Croix were made out of support for me.  Although I still won't call him a non-Catholic, it's interesting that others are more concerned with what you have said about Croix than what Croix has said about crypto Jєω posters now and in the past.  I wish Matthew hadn't deleted his posts, especially the nasty one about my being a low IQ Jєω.  
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #38 on: June 15, 2020, 07:40:49 AM »
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  • For all we know, you could be a Jєω, etc.  It is the nature of an online forum that it is always possible that people are not who they say they are.  Croix de Fer, however, joined Cathinfo in 2011 (originally under the name ascent, later changing, with permission, to Croix de Fer) when he was very new to traditional Catholicism and has a continuous history here of thousands of posts.  He was a member in good standing until he was banned around two years ago.  In protest of being banned he started a campaign of trolling the forum using multiple accounts.

    He spent years as a normal poster participating in the forum.  At first, he asked a lot of questions and advice as one would expect of a new trad.  Over time he developed opinions on a range of topics, none of them especially unusual for CI.  He wrote about his pets.  He responded to prayer requests with prayers.  There is a seven year posting history showing a consistent picture of a traditional Catholic, much like any of us, and there is no real reason to question that.

    While I do not approve of his trolling campaign, I can understand that he believes he was unjustly banned and feels resentment.  This does not make him a horrible person nor an especially bad Catholic. And  I have no idea where the accusation that he is a liar comes from.  I cannot think of any evidence to support that claim. You started this thread claiming that you were going to stop attacking Croix and yet you continue to do so throughout.  There is more reason to question your honesty than his.

    You QVD have only been a member here a bit over a year, so you are probably unaware of all this.  You don't have a sense of ascent/Croix as person or know anything about the circuмstances under which he was banned.  You are basing conclusions on a limited subset of the available information, making it highly unlikely that you are correct.

    Seriously? He was banned for a reason, do you know why? You have no idea where the accusation of being a liar comes from??? Did you read his posts? One very recent example: he just admitted he was, in fact, Croix while denying it many times in the past.

    Did you read my posts? Obviously, if you did, you didn’t do so with much attention. If you read my posts you might have noticed that I said that there are people on this forum who know me personally, so your accusation that I might be a Jєω is absolutely ridiculous and disingenuous. I have read this forum from nearly it’s inception and my old account was suspended a while back, so I’m not as new as you presume!

    What he did does make him a bad Catholic and a horrible person, if he is actually a real Catholic. Did you see what he did to 2Vermont??? He probably accounts for 90% of my downvotes and the only reason for his attacks, that I can imagine, is that I came to the defense of 2Vermont. How do you have the nerve to write this: “ There is more reason to question your honesty than his.”??? Give me an example of my dishonesty or retract that statement....
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #39 on: June 15, 2020, 07:46:13 AM »
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  • For all we know, you could be a Jєω, etc.  It is the nature of an online forum that it is always possible that people are not who they say they are.  Croix de Fer, however, joined Cathinfo in 2011 (originally under the name ascent, later changing, with permission, to Croix de Fer) when he was very new to traditional Catholicism and has a continuous history here of thousands of posts.  He was a member in good standing until he was banned around two years ago.  In protest of being banned he started a campaign of trolling the forum using multiple accounts.

    He spent years as a normal poster participating in the forum.  At first, he asked a lot of questions and advice as one would expect of a new trad.  Over time he developed opinions on a range of topics, none of them especially unusual for CI.  He wrote about his pets.  He responded to prayer requests with prayers.  There is a seven year posting history showing a consistent picture of a traditional Catholic, much like any of us, and there is no real reason to question that.

    While I do not approve of his trolling campaign, I can understand that he believes he was unjustly banned and feels resentment.  This does not make him a horrible person nor an especially bad Catholic. And  I have no idea where the accusation that he is a liar comes from.  I cannot think of any evidence to support that claim. You started this thread claiming that you were going to stop attacking Croix and yet you continue to do so throughout.  There is more reason to question your honesty than his.

    You QVD have only been a member here a bit over a year, so you are probably unaware of all this.  You don't have a sense of ascent/Croix as person or know anything about the circuмstances under which he was banned.  You are basing conclusions on a limited subset of the available information, making it highly unlikely that you are correct.
    I didn’t even give this post a downvote and you deserve it!
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #40 on: June 15, 2020, 07:48:57 AM »
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  • Thank you Quo.  I know that your recent posts against Croix were made out of support for me.  Although I still won't call him a non-Catholic, it's interesting that others are more concerned with what you have said about Croix than what Croix has said about crypto Jєω posters now and in the past.  I wish Matthew hadn't deleted his posts, especially the nasty one about my being a low IQ Jєω.  
    I doubt that there is anyone on this forum who understands how horrible you feel to be called a crypto-Jєω as well as I do.  From what I've seen, these comments are low blows, designed to hurt, rather than reasonable responses to your positions.   You know as well as I do that there is nothing I can do about it.  Any words of support that I were to give you would be dismissed as Jєωs sticking up for each other.

    I don't like Croix having a personal vendetta against you and I don't like him expressing it by suggesting you did not sincerely convert.  But that does mean that Quo should make things up about him.  


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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #41 on: June 15, 2020, 07:53:16 AM »
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  • But that does mean that Quo should make things up about him.  
    I made up nothing. I personally don’t believe he is a Catholic. Do you know him in real life? If you don’t, that Nigerian prince is waiting to hear from you.....
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #42 on: June 15, 2020, 08:04:06 AM »
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  • Seriously? He was banned for a reason, do you know why? You have no idea where the accusation of being a liar comes from??? Did you read his posts? One very recent example: he just admitted he was, in fact, Croix while denying it many times in the past.

    Did you read my posts? Obviously, if you did, you didn’t do so with much attention. If you read my posts you might have noticed that I said that there are people on this forum who know me personally, so your accusation that I might be a Jєω is absolutely ridiculous and disingenuous. I have read this forum from nearly it’s inception and my old account was suspended a while back, so I’m not as new as you presume!

    What he did does make him a bad Catholic and a horrible person, if he is actually a real Catholic. Did you see what he did to 2Vermont??? He probably accounts for 90% of my downvotes and the only reason for his attacks, that I can imagine, is that I came to the defense of 2Vermont. How do you have the nerve to write this: “ There is more reason to question your honesty than his.”??? Give me an example of my dishonesty or retract that statement....
    I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you were unaware of Croix's long posting history.  If you have been making these wild accusations while knowing about it, this does not reflect well on you.  

    I have seen elaborate fake accounts, in which the same individual created multiple personas who vouched for each other.  Saying that there are people on this forum who know you personally does not prove anything.  I do not seriously question that you are who you say, but there is no more reason for me to accept you than to accept Croix.

    I already gave the reason I have to question your honesty.  You said that you would stop attacking Croix and you did not keep your word.

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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #43 on: June 15, 2020, 08:17:04 AM »
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  • I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming that you were unaware of Croix's long posting history.  If you have been making these wild accusations while knowing about it, this does not reflect well on you.  

    I have seen elaborate fake accounts, in which the same individual created multiple personas who vouched for each other.  Saying that there are people on this forum who know you personally does not prove anything.  I do not seriously question that you are who you say, but there is no more reason for me to accept you than to accept Croix.

    I already gave the reason I have to question your honesty.  You said that you would stop attacking Croix and you did not keep your word.

    Here is what I wrote: “ As a Catholic I do forgive him for my love for God and I’ll try to refrain from attacking him any more no matter how many downvotes he gives me.” If you bothered to use the grey matter that God gave you and actually read my posts, you will realize that I stopped attacking his masculinity and that is what I was referring to. Now please retract your accusation.


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    Re: Various Croix Accounts
    « Reply #44 on: June 15, 2020, 08:28:21 AM »
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  • Here is what I wrote: “ As a Catholic I do forgive him for my love for God and I’ll try to refrain from attacking him any more no matter how many downvotes he gives me.” If you bothered to use the grey matter that God gave you and actually read my posts, you will realize that I stopped attacking his masculinity and that is what I was referring to. Now please retract your accusation.
    You are not asking me to read your posts but to read your mind.  Nobody could read "I’ll try to refrain from attacking him any more no matter how many downvotes he gives me" and think that you were announcing your intention to stop attacking his masculinity but to attack his sanity and Catholicism instead.  

    Your above attempt to pretend that your words meant something other than their clear meaning is yet further evidence of  dishonesty.