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Re: The Fisheaters SITE is so good - or is it?
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2022, 09:47:44 PM »
Moving on:

It seems here that she is denouncing those who point out the ills of the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lifestyle by playing to one's charity.

This is not unreasonable, considering that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs go through an incredibly high amount of "partners" yearly than mere fornicators. Given the addictive nature of lust, it is reasonable to assume that those most engaged in acts of this kind repeatedly would be susceptible to do again if provided the opportunity. When I use the term ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, I am writing of those who embrace this sin, not those who suffer the attraction yet resist it. This is a distinction she fails to make.

So acts of sodomy that are not as "popularly defined" as others are less evil? What does "popularly defined" here mean in this case? This kind of language reeks of Vatican II pseudocouncil speak. 
The mindset she operates on is the common error that many seem to hold: that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is some sort of "cross" given by God and that they can't help it, i.e. they were "born that way". Absolutely NO ONE is born to be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. It is a learned behavior given through trauma and impounded by sin.

Last week I posted a docuмentary that someone made about the "born that way" fallacy of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity; and he found, based upon numerous interviews with gαys in their own territory (i.e. gαy bars), is that they learned this behavior through the abusive actions of another. There is a meme out there of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs (and trannies) reproducing by indoctrination, this is exactly the case. And it solidifies into a "preference" through the sins of these men afflicted by their, typically, childhood trauma.

It's not to say I don't have empathy for people with this affliction who repent and fight it, but, let's be honest here about its origins.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Fisheaters SITE is so good - or is it?
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2022, 10:41:23 AM »
The mindset she operates on is the common error that many seem to hold: that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is some sort of "cross" given by God and that they can't help it, i.e. they were "born that way". Absolutely NO ONE is born to be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. It is a learned behavior given through trauma and impounded by sin.

Of course there's the difference between "behavior" and the "inclination" (usually called "same sex attraction").  As you mentioned, there could have been some trauma that led to the inclination, and there can be different degrees of culpability for the inclination itself ... that only God is probably in a position to determine.  But consenting to it or willing it or acting on it would be grave sin regardless ... even if one's subjective culpability for the inclination itself might be diminished in the internal forum.

This distinction is precisely the one that Bergoglio tried to apply (incorrectly) in Amoris Laetitia.  For Bergolgio, if somehow someone can determine in the internal forum (consulting with their spiritual director) that they were not gravely culpable for the circuмstances that led to their current condition of cohabitation, then that would permit them to continue in their current state of cohabitation without subjective guilt in the internal forum.  That's the height of absurdity.  I'll get back to this later, but this is the key to exposing the erroneous "logic" of AL.


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Re: The Fisheaters SITE is so good - or is it?
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2022, 11:40:42 AM »
Here diatribe against "toxic Traddism" is a bunch of nonsense, as a whole, even if she occasionally hits on a valid concern.  It's a thinly veiled (actually, pretty transparent) attempt to rationalize her conformity with the modern world and attempting to elevate her compromises to a virtue.

Hit the nail on the head.

Re: The Fisheaters SITE is so good - or is it?
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2022, 11:55:48 AM »
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered, disgraceth his head. But every woman praying or prophesying with her head not covered, disgraceth her head: for it is all one as if she were shaven.

For if a woman be not covered, let her be shorn. But if it be a shame to a woman to be shorn or made bald, let her cover her head. The man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman, but the woman of the man. For the man was not created for the woman, but the woman for the man. Therefore ought the woman to have a power over her head, because of the angels.

- 1 Corinthians 11:1-10
Wow.
I'm not even joking, I think I've never read this in my life. Or is my memory that bad?

Probably because nobody ever dares bring up this passage, ever.

Offline Matthew

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Re: The Fisheaters SITE is so good - or is it?
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2022, 12:47:19 PM »
We seem to have a couple Fisheaters/Tracy fans in our midst. They can't even tolerate her being called Feminist? That's pretty bad -- that's an airtight, slam dunk case there, sorry guy.

But not just any couple of fans, but the silent, cowardly variety, who can't come up with any actual facts or arguments to ACTUALLY COUNTER what is posted here in this thread. They just don't like it. They wish it weren't true. It hurts their fee-fees, They want to be able to continue to infiltrate the forum and don't want to be banned, etc.

Sorry bozos -- we're on the right side of history. We're on God's side, St. Paul's side -- you can HAVE Fisheaters, Vox Clamantis "Tracy" and her liberal, watered-down flavor of Trad Catholicism.