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Offline Galilean

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Re: Seeking Catholic PDFs, e-books, literature
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2025, 07:24:24 PM »
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  • Your reaction is interesting because you've taken my advice as a personal attack on you. You're offended and think I'm showing that I'm smarter than you, perhaps? Think of me as a friend looking out for our coveted books on Catholic history, theology, etc.  I'm a bookworm and was about to make recommendations for you.  But not in connection with the AI Beast.  

    AI HIJACKS "CATHOLIC" LIKE IT'S A BRAND NAME EXAMPLES

    https://catholicaistl.substack.com/

    • Veritas AI's Substack: This platform presents a positive vision for AI, likening its arrival to the invention of the printing press, as a transformative medium for spreading divine wisdom and enabling universal access to truth-infused revelation. The core argument is that AI should be "baptized" and formed by the Church's tradition to ensure it serves the pursuit of truth, which is ultimately a Person.

    https://blog.catholicai.app/


    https://www.catholic.com/ai
    Curious Hidden History - My Substack.  Resources page has list of books and videos for the curious.

    Offline Matthew

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    Re: Seeking Catholic PDFs, e-books, literature
    « Reply #31 on: September 19, 2025, 07:57:34 PM »
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  • I hate to say it, but "no". Your guess/intuition/etc. was completely off; totally wrong. I'm not "offended" or emotional in any way. I'm male, and engaging in a rational discussion. Please quote the part of my post that even SUGGESTS otherwise.
    We can disagree without having a permanent "beef", bad blood, or any emotions at all involved.
    I'm attempting to teach both you and anyone who wants to read this discussion about the true nature of generative AI in 2025, as it exists today.

    I speak about that which I know. I have actually studied it; I'm a software developer.

    As for this group (or groups) -- they can call themselves "Catholic" all they want. The fact of the matter is, their possession of the Catholic Faith is debatable at best, and in the end, they have nothing to do with various Trad Catholics endeavoring to use the (very real, very useful) software that is collectively called "AI" for good purposes.

    Do you understand my point?

    You could post 300 errors and heresies by that group. It wouldn't mean *anything* to me, Traditional Catholics, or "AI". It's just the words of a single man/organization. A person or organization can say any number of insane things. Who cares?

    Are you saying that if enough nonsense is uttered, it permanently damages the subject matter, and/or the group they claim to be a member of? That's not logical at all.
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    Offline Stubborn

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    Re: Seeking Catholic PDFs, e-books, literature
    « Reply #32 on: September 20, 2025, 05:27:00 AM »
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  • I just tested a question that already worked *perfectly* in the Catholic AI I'm developing. Tradivox totally failed it.
    The question was:
    when did st. therese receive a miracle that helped her vocation?

    And it needed a certain PDF to be loaded into a vector database (RAG) to correctly answer. Just the naked AI model alone gave the wrong answer.

    I have the lookup working awesome right now -- I'm currently working on (stuck, as it were) on wiring up the nice "front end" website to use my RAG program as a middle-man, before it hands it off to a local AI I'm running on physical on-site hardware.

    I can't wait till I get that part figured out. It's going to be so exciting!
    Any idea as to when we will be able to check it out Matthew? I'm totally looking forward to it. 
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

    Offline Geremia

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    Re: Seeking Catholic PDFs, e-books, literature
    « Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 07:05:09 PM »
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  • The St. Isidore archive is 223 GB.
    If you want to train a chatbot, perhaps you could use the full-text-search.db (15GB) database somehow.
    St. Isidore e-book library: https://isidore.co

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    Re: Seeking Catholic PDFs, e-books, literature
    « Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 07:07:52 PM »
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  • Are these all CATHOLIC books?
    Many of them are, and many of them are science books, too. There are some entries of Modernists' books (e.g., Ratzinger's Intro to [Modernist] Christianity), but they don't have formats. There are a few that are anti-Catholic that have formats (e.g., Cornell University founder White's History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom).
    But the orthodox Catholic signal should dominate the non-Catholic noise if you train a chatbot with these data.
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