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Offline andy

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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2023, 08:35:09 PM »
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  • hold more similar opinions than almost anyone you’d find out in the world.
    There is no way to reconcile FE with this


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    Re: Sean Johnson vs Ladislaus
    « Reply #16 on: September 13, 2023, 10:55:19 PM »
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  • I recorded the fight on PPV.  It was a good fight.  Here's the transcript of what went down in case anyone doesn't want to pay to watch...

    (Ladislaus comes to the ring wearing his classic bath robe and is oiled up and smoking a cigar.)

    (Sean Johnson comes to the ring wearing a leather jacket, some blue jeans, and a ball cap that says "NY" on it.)

    (The 2 stand toe to toe and are in each others face.  Sean towers over Ladislaus but Ladislaus is not intimidated.)

    (Ladislaus blows a puff of cigar smoke in Sean Johnsons eyes.)

    (Sean Johnson is upset and pushes Ladislaus and Ladislaus teeters to the ropes.)

    (Sean Johnson then proceeds with stiff forearm shots to Ladislauses chrome-dome.)

    (Ladislaus takes 15 points of damage from the onslaught.  Lad 85/100 health remaining.)

    (Ladislaus shakes it off and proceeds to kick Sean in the "junk" but Sean backsteps a little bit and Lad doesn't get all of it but Sean takes 20 points of damage.  Sean 80/100 health remaining.)

    (This infuriates SJ as he may want more children some day and socks Lad right in the nose.  Lad takes 20 points of damage.  Lad 65/100 health remaining.)

    (Lad, finished with his cigar proceeds to put it out on SJ's face and connects!  SJ takes 30 damage points.  Sean 50/100 health remaining.)

    (SJ flicks some of the embers and ashes off on Ladislaus and since Lad is oiled up he catches fire!  Lad takes 35 points of damage from the burning.  Lad 30/100 health remaining.)

    (Lad quickly put the fire up and is now "hot" with anger.  He goes into a frenzy and just starts swinging.  Some hits connect.  Others do not.  Sean takes 20 points of damage.  Sean 30/100 health remaining.)

    (Both men tired and spent but they proceed to crack skulls against each other in the next exchange and both crash to the canvas.  THUD!  Both Lad and Sean take 30 points of damage.  0/100 health remaining for both men.)

    (Both men are laid out.  The ref is counting....1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8....9...both men are stirring......but it's too late.....10!)

    (Both men are considered Knocked Out and the fight ends in a draw.) 


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    Re: Sean Johnson vs Ladislaus
    « Reply #17 on: September 14, 2023, 05:29:37 AM »
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  • Ah, my fighting days are over.  I've made the determination to turn over a new leaf and just let certain types of comments pass without response.

    I didn't actually start this thread.  This post was made inside another, but Matthew kicked it out for thread digression, though I didn't start the digression either.  Lest people think I'm arrogant enough to start a thread about myself.  It was an exercise in introspection that helped me realize why I tend to go off on certain individuals here, that is has to do with my aversion to illogic.

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    Re: Sean Johnson vs Ladislaus
    « Reply #18 on: September 14, 2023, 06:22:17 AM »
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  • Ah, my fighting days are over.  I've made the determination to turn over a new leaf and just let certain types of comments pass without response.

    I didn't actually start this thread.  This post was made inside another, but Matthew kicked it out for thread digression, though I didn't start the digression either.  Lest people think I'm arrogant enough to start a thread about myself.  It was an exercise in introspection that helped me realize why I tend to go off on certain individuals here, that is has to do with my aversion to illogic.

    No, it’s not your aversion to illogic, but to reality, which causes your poor behavior:

    Because you cannot cope with reality, you have created an alternate universe: One which is flat; has a popeless church, a church which can’t translate voto for 500 years; teaches errors on salvation in its catechisms; one in which gravity remains unproven; and so on.

    When your fantasies are dismissed as being unworthy of discussion, you react poorly, feeling your alternative reality threatened, the risk of reality returning causing an unpleasant discomfort.

    So “fake Lucy” away, but don’t pretend to be a lover of logic.

    CI is your treehouse, where you get to escape to the world of make believe.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Sean Johnson vs Ladislaus
    « Reply #19 on: September 14, 2023, 06:35:36 AM »
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  • No, it’s not your aversion to illogic, but to reality, which causes your poor behavior:

    Because you cannot cope with reality, you have created an alternate universe: One which is flat; has a popeless church, a church which can’t translate voto for 500 years; teaches errors on salvation in its catechisms; one in which gravity remains unproven; and so on.

    When your fantasies are dismissed as being unworthy of discussion, you react poorly, feeling your alternative reality threatened, the risk of reality returning causing an unpleasant discomfort.

    So “fake Lucy” away, but don’t pretend to be a lover of logic.

    CI is your treehouse, where you get to escape to the world of make believe.

    Sean, all of these positions have been articulated based on actual evidence, including the Fake Lucy problem.  I watched Niles' video on the matter and it was rather pathetic and did absolutely nothing to debunk the evidence Dr. Ch has accuмulated from actual experts, Niles' 5 minutes of perusing WebMD notwithstanding.  Niles' chief argument was that these experts did not take into account the effects of aging, and her claims were absurd.  Or, even more laughably, that these experts were unaware of how a face can look different due to smiling or other facial expressions.  I quoted from the experts' docuмents where they clearly took that into account (as if they were stupid enough to overlook something like aging).  In fact, one of the experts went through a list of discrepancies, dismissed some that could be attributed to aging, but then solidly backed certain aspects of physiognomy that could not be explained by aging.  These experts spent their lives studying such matters, and their opinion has a lot more weight, when asserting that X, Y, or Z could not have been caused by aging.  Basically, Niles was lying and she openly expressed that her agenda was to legitimize the Conciliar Church.  So this is what I based my conclusions on.  You, on the other hand, continue to hurl ad hominem arguments like ...
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    So "fake Lucy" away, but don't pretend to be a lover of logic.

    That is your rebuttal to the point I make above, and made before while citing evidence from the docuмents posted by Dr. Ch?

    Please explain why you accept Niles' claim (Niles, who admitted that she gleaned all her expertise from WebMD) that these discrepancies could be caused by aging when I cited evidence from the ACTUAL experts where they clearly distinguished between factors that could have been caused by aging and those that could not.  Some of them are considered the world's top experts and have been called to testify in dozens of court cases.  You have a plastic surgeon who absolutely knows about the effects of aging, and who called them out in his evidence, despite the fact that Niles lied about it and claimed they did not?


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    Re: Sean Johnson vs Ladislaus
    « Reply #20 on: September 14, 2023, 06:38:56 AM »
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  • So this exemplifies again what I've been talking about and what I have found so irritating.  I can post several paragraphs laying out the arguments, and Sean typically responds with insults and ad hominem attacks, but never posts anything of substance.  In order for him to join the argument on a rational level, he would have to explain why the experts in Dr. Ch's evidence were wrong.

    He's accuмulated a long list of such points that he uses to hurl insults at me, uses them as mockery and ridicule, employing the very tactics that the powers that be use to silence "conspiracy" theorists, deriding them as kooks, tin-foil-hat-wearing morons, and the like.

    But instead of getting irritated, as I have been, I'm simply going to call him out when he's doing this.  That's actually the best response to irrational attacks such as the ones Sean makes, to simply call them out.  I'm going to make a post here listing all of the Sean Johnson irrational/illogical tactics (a logical anti-pattern) and whenever I see him employing them, I'll simply call out "Johnson Tactic #7) with a link to the list.

    Be careful, Sean, because these are the tactics they use to vilify Bishop Williamson, deriding him as a nutjob over cօռspιʀαcιҽs like 9/11 and the h0Ɩ0h0αx.  Do you believe in the h0Ɩ0cαųst, Sean?  Do you believe that 9 Arabs with box cutters who couldn't pass Cessna flight school, yet engaged in maneuvers with complex aircraft that left veteran pilots in awe, caused buildings to collapse at freefall speeds into their own footprints, including on that wasn't hit but just had a small fire in one corner, that they pulled off 9/11?  Because one could ridicule, mock, and deride you in the same way over those conspiracy theories that YOU happen to hold.

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    Re: Sean Johnson vs Ladislaus
    « Reply #21 on: September 14, 2023, 12:08:30 PM »
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    Sean typically responds with insults and ad hominem attacks, but never posts anything of substance. 
    Sometimes he does, but typically he doesn't have the patience to.



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    In order for him to join the argument on a rational level, he would have to explain why the experts in Dr. Ch's evidence were wrong.
    Yep.  And Sean never will.

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    Re: Sean Johnson vs Ladislaus
    « Reply #22 on: September 14, 2023, 04:23:51 PM »
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  • Leave the past in the past.  Start tomorrow new in Jesus Christ. 


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    Re: Sean Johnson vs Ladislaus
    « Reply #23 on: September 14, 2023, 08:23:11 PM »
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  • Leave the past in the past.  Start tomorrow new in Jesus Christ.


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    For all have sinned, and do need the glory of God. Romans

    Solid advice. Solid source.

    If Gladius Veritatis and I can patch together a semblance of civility, as we have, I am sure it is possible for other men to do similarly.
    It is not necessary to concede matters of objective truth.

    I think we are fast approaching the time when we will need men to share our foxholes, some of whom will not be clones of our own opinions.  This war will be fought in both the spiritual and temporal world and we need each other in both realms.

    ZOG is already baring Satan's teeth at some of us.  Get wired properly on all counts.

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    Re: Sean Johnson vs Ladislaus
    « Reply #24 on: September 14, 2023, 10:40:08 PM »
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  • Solid advice. Solid source.

    If Gladius Veritatis and I can patch together a semblance of civility, as we have, I am sure it is possible for other men to do similarly.
    It is not necessary to concede matters of objective truth.

    I think we are fast approaching the time when we will need men to share our foxholes, some of whom will not be clones of our own opinions.  This war will be fought in both the spiritual and temporal world and we need each other in both realms.

    ZOG is already baring Satan's teeth at some of us.  Get wired properly on all counts.

    “Never let the past get in the way of the future.”
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Sean Johnson vs Ladislaus
    « Reply #25 on: September 15, 2023, 12:32:46 AM »
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  • I think we are fast approaching the time when we will need men to share our foxholes, some of whom will not be clones of our own opinions.  This war will be fought in both the spiritual and temporal world and we need each other in both realms.

    Once the easy life comes to a complete halt, we will certainly see change in people, good and bad... I hope what I quoted from you here becomes more possible as a result of forced reality.


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    Re: Re: Donate anything to CathInfo, get ads turned off
    « Reply #26 on: September 15, 2023, 01:01:17 AM »
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  • I'd just tell them that they were outside the Church, belonging to a non-Catholic religion.
    Is that actually a belief that you have though (that “FSSP attendees, in general, are outside the church) or is this more of a petty “if he calls me a schismatic I’ll call him one” type of thing?

    (since tone is hard to read online, the pettiness thing isn’t an accusation)