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Offline St Giles

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Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2024, 11:38:46 AM »
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  • I know what you mean regarding leverage, but with leverage there's a trade-off, a conversion of how energy is delivered, but not in the amount of work done. 

    Taking the gravity wheel as an example ( with marbles and ramps that shift the position of the marbles, so on one side they are closer to the center to keep the wheel off balance uding leverage) without looking at it too closely, I'd assume the weight density or something like that may oppose the increased leverage. Moving marbles on one side toward the center might increase the density of marble distribution, increasing the weight proportional to the leverage, countering any gain the leverage would provide.

    I could be wrong since I'm not looking at that example now, but I used to think it was one possible and practical free energy machine. I think I had seen a video that proved it didn't work.
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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #16 on: April 03, 2024, 10:51:50 AM »
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  • I think the closest to free energy perpetual motion is making use of energy in a system so large that there's no noticeable depletion. Solar, wind, hydro, are some examples.
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    Those things can only be harnessed by extremely expensive and inefficient machines such as solar panels and windmills, and even when they do work, they do not provide power all the time. Solar panels only work during the day; windmills only work when it's windy.

    The closest thing to a perpetual motion machine is substances that contain vast amounts of energy that exist in unimaginable abundance in the earth, such as petroleum, coal, natural gas, and radioactive metals. These are the best sources of energy, which is why the Left wants to take them away from us.

    Those things were put in the earth by God, Who foresaw that one day the human race would become so large that traditional means of energy such as horses and oxen and sails and slaves would not be sufficient to produce the food, housing and other necessities of the human race. So, He put these incredibly potent substances in the earth in vast amounts, far greater than anyone has any knowledge of, knowing that one day people would discover their uses and how to harness them, and that this would coincide with humanity's need of such materials.

    It is the enemy of mankind who wants to take these things away from us, knowing how good and necessary they are.

    The idea that we are going to deplete petroleum reserves soon is a myth by the left. It is a docuмented fact that oil wells that had been thought to have run dry have been replenished by more petroleum from deeper within the earth. So, any estimates about the amount of oil available (laughable as they are) are only based on what is currently guessed to be in the oil wells currently known. But there is certainly more petroleum deeper within the earth's crust that seeps into oil wells, and the amount of that petroleum is obviously completely beyond anyone's ability to hazard the slightest guess.


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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #17 on: April 03, 2024, 11:38:30 AM »
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  • Those things can only be harnessed by extremely expensive and inefficient machines such as solar panels and windmills, and even when they do work, they do not provide power all the time. Solar panels only work during the day; windmills only work when it's windy.

    Sure, solar works during the day, but then you can store excess energy during the day in batteries for use at other times.  You can go completely offgrid with solar, but it's very expensive.  I think it would cost around $20K - $30K to go fully off-grid with solar, unless you scaled down to some cabin with very little need for electricity.  Then it could be a lot cheaper.

    I have no issues with using so-called fossil fuels, as I find there's good evidence that new petroleum is being made all the time and that it's not a bunch of fossils that were compressed over millions of years.  Problem is that it makes is dependent on big business and government, whereas some of these other alternatives could make you relatively independent (once you're set up).

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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #18 on: April 03, 2024, 02:10:50 PM »
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  • Are trees considered solar energy? Solar energy allows trees to convert air and some minerals into solid fuel, which can be used for heat, or powering a turbine or engine that produces electricity. 
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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #19 on: April 03, 2024, 02:31:14 PM »
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  • Are trees considered solar energy? Solar energy allows trees to convert air and some minerals into solid fuel, which can be used for heat, or powering a turbine or engine that produces electricity.
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    People stopped using trees for energy in the 19th century, apart from heating their homes. But for powering machines, wood has not been used for an extremely long time.


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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #20 on: April 03, 2024, 07:12:14 PM »
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  • Wrong, Mr Yeti. I heat my house with it, some European countries burn trees instead of coal or gas, and I think there's still a few old saw mills in the USA running on wood scrap fired steam engines.

    I think wood and solar energy could be harnessed in many more ways than people think.
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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #21 on: April 03, 2024, 09:20:39 PM »
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  • Wrong, Mr Yeti. I heat my house with it, some European countries burn trees instead of coal or gas, and I think there's still a few old saw mills in the USA running on wood scrap fired steam engines.

    I think wood and solar energy could be harnessed in many more ways than people think.
    When we raised our family, we had no expenses for energy, only hardware. Everything was supplied from the sun, via solar panels and battery, water was supplied free: either rain or river water pumped by waterwheel into a dam, then gravity fed to the home, (we knew what we were drinking!) and of course heating and cooking was fueled by fallen branches. It was the boys’ job to collect and chop them.

    Still today, afer setting up a solar system at a cost of $Aus16,000 we are supplying our excess TO the grid, in spite of an excessively wet season.

    With imagination and necessity it can be done. 
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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #22 on: April 04, 2024, 02:21:42 AM »
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  • Oh! I forgot our slow combustion stove which also heated our water.
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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #23 on: April 06, 2024, 02:04:47 PM »
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  • some European countries burn trees instead of coal or gas
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    I was very surprised to learn this. Yes, I did a search and apparently there are power plants in Europe that burn huge piles of wood chips to produce energy. I would have thought this was extremely inefficient. I guess you learn something new every day. :confused:

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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #24 on: April 07, 2024, 11:24:47 AM »
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    I was very surprised to learn this. Yes, I did a search and apparently there are power plants in Europe that burn huge piles of wood chips to produce energy. I would have thought this was extremely inefficient. I guess you learn something new every day. :confused:

    Maybe they have a lot of leftover wood from various lumber mills.  Around here they tend to turn it into mulch, but maybe mulch isn't as much of a thing over there.

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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #25 on: April 07, 2024, 02:31:20 PM »
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  • Mulch biofuel just isn't valuable or in high demand here. In Europe, the trees are perhaps more valuable as biofuel than lumber, and non lumber quality trees and logging leftovers get turned into mulch. Consider too that there can easily be as much wood volume in branches as in the log, sometimes a lot more, but small branches aren't convenient for home heating.
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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #26 on: April 07, 2024, 10:08:11 PM »
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  • I don't know if it was mentioned already, but I had learned something about Nikola Tesla having come up with having continuous electricity in a building I thought. 
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    Re: Perpetual motion machine - Gravity wheel generator
    « Reply #27 on: April 07, 2024, 10:51:20 PM »
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  • I don't know if it was mentioned already, but I had learned something about Nikola Tesla having come up with having continuous electricity in a building I thought.

    Problem is, none of these scammers or youtubers is Nikola Tesla -- from whom genius and inventions came forth like wetness from a downpour. 
    One might say, "You're no Tesla!" to paraphrase a famous saying.
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