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Title: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: 2Vermont on August 31, 2022, 05:29:58 AM
Hi All,

I am looking to purchase a new laptop in the near future.  Any suggestions?

I currently have a 12 year old Gateway that is still working 🤞, but I'm not sure how much longer I've got!

Thanks,
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Stubborn on August 31, 2022, 07:16:04 AM
I've had a lot of different makes of laptops, I've been using an Asus laptop about 12 hours a day for the last 4 years almost, it is the best of all the different brands I've used. Not sure what it all means, but here is the one I have....

Device name DESKTOP-2NLDQR9
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz  2.80 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Philothea3 on August 31, 2022, 08:52:56 AM
Depends on what you use it for!
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Kazimierz on August 31, 2022, 09:16:11 AM
I assume you want to remain using Windows. I am not plugging Mac, even though I have been using it for 30+ years. Most whoop dedoo stuff that comes with either, apart from increased performance I hardly if ever use.As i look to The new Mac OS Ventura scheduled for release in October I don’t see anything all that exciting.

As DL says, it all depends what you use your computer for.:cowboy:
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: ServusInutilisDomini on August 31, 2022, 09:50:38 AM
Whatever laptop it ends up being, make sure to check a notebookcheck.net review.

If a laptop or phone doesn't have a notebookcheck review I basically don't even consider it.

Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: 2Vermont on August 31, 2022, 10:51:32 AM
My laptop use is basic.  For the internet, email, spreadsheets, and docuмents.  Right now I have Word and Excel, and unless I can convert those files easily, I probably wouldn't want to change that. I really don't need anything too sophisticated although I suspect most laptops are sophisticated regardless.
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: DigitalLogos on August 31, 2022, 10:58:35 AM
I have an Acer Nitro 5, it works pretty well. Generally Acer and Asus have been good to me
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Stubborn on August 31, 2022, 12:00:37 PM
My laptop use is basic.  For the internet, email, spreadsheets, and docuмents.  Right now I have Word and Excel, and unless I can convert those files easily, I probably wouldn't want to change that. I really don't need anything too sophisticated although I suspect most laptops are sophisticated regardless.
Prior to me needing a computer for my job, I would just go to Walmart and get one off the shelf that didn't cost too much, that worked out well for me. 
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: ServusInutilisDomini on August 31, 2022, 12:26:02 PM
My laptop use is basic.  For the internet, email, spreadsheets, and docuмents.  Right now I have Word and Excel, and unless I can convert those files easily, I probably wouldn't want to change that. I really don't need anything too sophisticated although I suspect most laptops are sophisticated regardless.
Then you really can't go wrong with any laptop. Just make sure it has no overheating issues or flickering on notebookcheck.net

I can't say what you should look for without knowing your budget but it sounds like you'll want something along the lines of:

128 or 256 GB SSD
Intel i5 8th gen or later / Ryzen 3 or 5
8GB of RAM

The choice will then come down to looks, keyboard feel, touchpad feel, temperature under load, screen brightness, color accuracy, etc.


However, if you were perfectly satisfied with an old laptop you should just go out and buy a cheap laptop and don't worry about it.

If you're in that price range I can recommend the ASUS UX430, it's overkill for your use case though.

I like the Acer Swift line too.
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: 2Vermont on August 31, 2022, 12:40:17 PM
Then you really can't go wrong with any laptop. Just make sure it has no overheating issues or flickering on notebookcheck.net

I can't say what you should look for without knowing your budget but it sounds like you'll want something along the lines of:

128 or 256 GB SSD
Intel i5 8th gen or later / Ryzen 3 or 5
8GB of RAM

The choice will then come down to looks, keyboard feel, touchpad feel, temperature under load, screen brightness, color accuracy, etc.


However, if you were perfectly satisfied with an old laptop you should just go out and buy a cheap laptop and don't worry about it.

If you're in that price range I can recommend the ASUS UX430, it's overkill for your use case though.

I like the Acer Swift line too.
I am looking in the $400-700 range.
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Cornelius935 on September 01, 2022, 11:22:20 PM
ASUS laptops are good and affordable.
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Jr1991 on September 01, 2022, 11:33:21 PM
I would suggest you investigate Lenovo’s Yoga 2 in 1. They are highly rated and, depending on the processor(I recommend an Intel I5), are reasonably priced depending on specs. I purchased a Surface Pro last week, and while it is excellent, it’s pretty pricey.

Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: ServusInutilisDomini on September 02, 2022, 03:40:30 AM
I am looking in the $400-700 range.
I suggest not going overboard and buying this laptop.

If you can, get one with a Ryzen processor, it will have better battery life and graphics.

I stopped following tech with Intel 11th gen but I think Ryzen is still better.

A Ryzen 3 or Intel i5 will be enough for you, a newer generation i3 might be as well but I'm not sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io2T7ZYrODA
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: St.Patrick on September 02, 2022, 04:00:11 AM
The American company system 76 makes open source based laptops. Friendly staff, and the laptop I got works well.
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Kazimierz on September 02, 2022, 09:08:58 AM
I just be wondering if there are any other outcasts in the computing sphere that use a 🖥 Mac?:jester:

I ended up trading my Airbook for credit which was applied to a new Airbook with the new M2 chip. As I muck about with audio and video I will see what this new puppy can do. 
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: ServusInutilisDomini on September 02, 2022, 09:21:28 AM
I just be wondering if there are any other outcasts in the computing sphere that use a 🖥 Mac?:jester:

I ended up trading my Airbook for credit which was applied to a new Airbook with the new M2 chip. As I muck about with audio and video I will see what this new puppy can do.
Apple devices have their pros but can't imagine justifying the price.
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Mithrandylan on September 02, 2022, 01:06:53 PM
I recently purchased a 'gaming' laptop because I wanted something with a good video card for occasional video rendering. It was the most expensive laptop I ever bought but I was tired of having to buy a new $400 laptop every 18 months. Although overpriced for just regular productivity work, I've been astounded at how smooth and responsive it has remained for those purposes. 

If you want a laptop to last, consider spending a bit more on it. 
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Matthew on September 02, 2022, 02:16:06 PM
Our most recent laptop, now a few years old, was purchased with work and homeschooling in mind. So the screen is a bit bigger than the minimum, as was the processor.

We bought one from Dell that came with Ubuntu Linux preinstalled, but we ended up installing our favorite, standard Linux Mint (MATE edition) on it. It still works great. Hopefully it will provide many more years of good service.
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: 2Vermont on September 09, 2022, 06:23:24 PM
It seems like a number of you have recommended the Acer and Asus brands.  What are your thoughts on Lenovos?
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Mithrandylan on September 09, 2022, 08:37:45 PM
It seems like a number of you have recommended the Acer and Asus brands.  What are your thoughts on Lenovos?
IMO Lenovo is better than both. It's a good brand, they make good hardware and I love their keyboards. Can be a little spendy, especially if new, but worth it if ones willing to pay. 
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: ServusInutilisDomini on September 10, 2022, 02:50:31 AM
IMO Lenovo is better than both. It's a good brand, they make good hardware and I love their keyboards. Can be a little spendy, especially if new, but worth it if ones willing to pay.
I second this.
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: 2Vermont on September 10, 2022, 04:14:04 AM
Good to know!  There is one that I see at Costco that has very good ratings but there are only 44 or so reviews [I typically like to see hundreds of reviews]: 

Lenovo Ideapad 5

The online price is $799, but as a Costco member I can get $150 off of that.

What do you all think about this one?
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Stubborn on September 10, 2022, 05:51:23 AM
If this is the one (https://www.costco.com/lenovo-ideapad-5-15.6"-touchscreen-laptop---12th-gen-intel-core-i7-1255u---1080p---windows-11.product.100975528.html), I think it looks like a great deal. Another huge plus is that you can take it back within 90 days no questions asked if it give you any problems. But it should do whatever you want it to do nicely.
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: moneil on September 10, 2022, 02:46:29 PM
 Earlier this year I replaced a three year old Surface Pro (which replaced a Fujitsu laptop with Windows Vista) with a Lenovo YOGA 9I, Intel Core i7 processor, 16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD hard drive, 14” touch screen 2-in-1 (the screen folds around to the back of the keyboard to make a tablet).  It was on sale at BestBuy for $1,000.  Costco had some good values at the time also.
 
One of my primary criteria was a lighter weight.  For the last 5 years I’ve lived on the family farm with DSL internet coming over ageing rural phone lines.  It works okay for e-mail, looking in on a forum, looking stuff up on a site that isn’t too graphically intense.  I do not watch videos or movies at home.  Zoom meetings can be hit and miss.  When I want to download a large file or a new application, or watch a video, I go the library in town.  I can also reserve a study room there when I need to be on a zoom meeting.  So, I don’t want to lug around something big and heavy.  In my shopping, both three years ago and last spring, I discovered that as with camping gear, the lighter and more compact the laptop the more expensive, usually.
 
I liked the Surface Pro, and especially its thinness and that it weighs less than two pounds.  However mine had a 128 SSD hard drive that was getting full and only 8 GB RAM, and seemed to be getting sluggish.  While useable, the detachable keyboard wasn’t my favorite thing.  The Lenovo was a nice upgrade at a nicer price than a new Surface.  I don’t mind the smaller screen, but there is always the option of connecting a larger monitor at home if one wants.

If the laptop is rarely, if ever, going to move off one’s desk, than size and weight won’t matter.
As others have said, if one is a Costco or BestBuy Total Tech member you can try out a laptop at home and have 90 or 60 days to return it if it’s not what you want.


Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Incredulous on September 10, 2022, 04:51:27 PM
I recommend a refurbished HP Elitebook, because it's a great value.

I've had an HP Elitebook 8460p since 2017. It's a solidly built, engineers workstation.

The factory refurbishment and software updates are professional and come with a warranty.

Study the HP model reviews, but here's just one example:


HP EliteBook 840 G3 Business Laptop, 14 Anti-Glare HD,
Intel Core i5-6200U, 16GB DDR4, 512GB SSD, Webcam, Windows 10 Pro (Renewed) 



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Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: 2Vermont on September 10, 2022, 07:56:34 PM
If this is the one (https://www.costco.com/lenovo-ideapad-5-15.6"-touchscreen-laptop---12th-gen-intel-core-i7-1255u---1080p---windows-11.product.100975528.html), I think it looks like a great deal. Another huge plus is that you can take it back within 90 days no questions asked if it give you any problems. But it should do whatever you want it to do nicely.
Yes, this is it.
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: 2Vermont on September 15, 2022, 12:26:11 PM
If this is the one (https://www.costco.com/lenovo-ideapad-5-15.6"-touchscreen-laptop---12th-gen-intel-core-i7-1255u---1080p---windows-11.product.100975528.html), I think it looks like a great deal. Another huge plus is that you can take it back within 90 days no questions asked if it give you any problems. But it should do whatever you want it to do nicely.
I think I'm going with this one if it's still in stock. 🤞  It continues to get excellent reviews at Costco.  I just wish I could find other reviews online.  Like everyone said, I will have 90 days to return, so it seems like a good risk. 
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Stubborn on September 15, 2022, 12:33:08 PM
You will be very happy with it I bet, Windows 11 supposed to be very similar to 10.
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: 2Vermont on September 15, 2022, 06:32:20 PM
You will be very happy with it I bet, Windows 11 supposed to be very similar to 10.
Got it!
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Stubborn on September 16, 2022, 06:55:24 AM
Got it!
Nice!
A few hours of getting it set up, updating windows, redoing bookmarks and etc. and it should do a good job for you, hopefully for years!
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: 2Vermont on September 17, 2022, 12:41:50 PM
Nice!
A few hours of getting it set up, updating windows, redoing bookmarks and etc. and it should do a good job for you, hopefully for years!
What do I do with the old computer?  Shouldn't I backup files and transfer to new? What have you all done? 
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Stubborn on September 19, 2022, 09:53:54 AM
I burn my old laptops. 
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: moneil on September 19, 2022, 10:06:48 AM
What do I do with the old computer?  Shouldn't I backup files and transfer to new? What have you all done?
In Washington we have electronics recycling, I presume other states do also.  One moves or copies and deletes all the data over to the new computer and uninstalls the programs.  To be thorough you can run a reformat (Costco's Concierge service could walk you through how to do that) to wipe all data and programs off the hard drive.  If one is worried about any lingering data you can take the hard drive out and smash it with a hammer.  The rest of the computer can be recycled and there are valuable elements they can extract from them in my understanding.

Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: 2Vermont on October 28, 2022, 11:23:22 AM
Nice!
A few hours of getting it set up, updating windows, redoing bookmarks and etc. and it should do a good job for you, hopefully for years!
So, I'm finally getting to the new laptop.  So far I'm enjoying it [especially its speed!], but it is taking a bit to get used to the differences.  First of all, the internet is via Microsoft Edge instead of Chrome.  Also, it's got Windows 11 and I currently have Windows 10. 

Not sure what causes it, but the look is completely different, and I have to find out where everything is that I have used for so long.  For example, managing bookmarks was different. 

With the new eyeglasses, I'm also adjusting to the slightly smaller screen [I am trying to stick to the new glasses rather than go back and forth with the old ones]. 

I am glad that I got the new computer before the old one died because I need to do this changeover in small doses. I'm on the old computer right now.  
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Ladislaus on October 28, 2022, 11:53:59 AM
So, I'm finally getting to the new laptop.  So far I'm enjoying it [especially its speed!], but it is taking a bit to get used to the differences.  First of all, the internet is via Microsoft Edge instead of Chrome.  Also, it's got Windows 11 and I currently have Windows 10. 

Not sure what causes it, but the look is completely different, and I have to find out where everything is that I have used for so long.  For example, managing bookmarks was different.

With the new eyeglasses, I'm also adjusting to the slightly smaller screen [I am trying to stick to the new glasses rather than go back and forth with the old ones]. 

I am glad that I got the new computer before the old one died because I need to do this changeover in small doses. I'm on the old computer right now. 

You can download/install Chrome if you'd like.  I usually do.
https://www.google.com/intl/en_us/chrome/

So, run the Installer.  Then find it on your Start menu and right-click > more -> pin to task bar.

Then find Edge on your Task Bar and right-click -> "unpin from taskbar"

In your search area, type "Default" and click on "Default apps".  Find "Web Browser", click on the Edge Icon, and select Chrome instead.

If you want to make it look more like Windows 10, here are some good tips:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/541452/make-windows-11-look-like-windows-10.html
Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on October 28, 2022, 01:33:39 PM
I burn my old laptops.
I do the same. 

My laptops have been dells.  The one I have now is one of the last with a side compartment for cd /dvd.  

I have to figure out to do if I want internet.  Sprint was bought out by T-crummy Mobile and my netgear no longer works.  Maybe I can use Wi-Fi or hotspot via my cell phone. 

Title: Re: Laptop Recommendations?
Post by: 2Vermont on October 28, 2022, 01:46:48 PM
You can download/install Chrome if you'd like.  I usually do.
https://www.google.com/intl/en_us/chrome/

So, run the Installer.  Then find it on your Start menu and right-click > more -> pin to task bar.

Then find Edge on your Task Bar and right-click -> "unpin from taskbar"

In your search area, type "Default" and click on "Default apps".  Find "Web Browser", click on the Edge Icon, and select Chrome instead.

If you want to make it look more like Windows 10, here are some good tips:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/541452/make-windows-11-look-like-windows-10.html
Thanks for the tips Lad.  Once I get the basic bookmarks in place I'll start delving further.