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FYI I took a quick look around Fisheaters, and found a thread with some 30+ pages whining about how terrible CathInfo is, with nothing objective to back up the whining. Plus, the posts have no dates, so I couldn't tell if they were a week old or 5 years old. Plus, a lot of posts were partially hacked down with words missing and notes in there place that something was removed by "Vox," whatever "Vox" is. Maybe like Sox? or Box? or Pox?
Fox?
Rox?
Cox?
I had a cat named Gax. Maybe he ran away and started a forum?
Anyway, there's one giant segment of Fisheaters that lists a bunch of random thread titles with no catagories, and no apparent relation to each other. I picked a few of them to read and found the posts have almost nothing to do with the thread titles, either. None of these threads or posts I found had ANY DATES on them.
A small sample looks like this:
[1] Lost Ship maybe found?
[2] New York State trip - looking for suggestions
[3] Talentless conspirator extraordinaire has REALLY crossed the line this time
[4] Two Faces on Cat?
[5] Shall I move to the States? Let the Tank decide!
[6] Spidey Who Couldn't Hide (For Jayne)
[7] Tridentine Humor
[8] Spirit Daily has Fisheaters page on its main headline
[9] What happens when a Jєω and a Catholic marry?
[-] Real Life Get-togethers and Friendships
[-] In Search of a Spouse
[-] Swap Group!
[-] Hook, Line, and Singer!
[1] Too tired to pray
[2] New blog
[3] What in the -you-know-where is going on?
[4] Great sermon today at Mass
[5] Feisian War Horses
[6] Gather a sin = worst "church" song in history of man!
[7] The Big Ten
[8] What Do YOU Cut Out to Save Money?
[9] The special list
[2] Recent Ordination in SanFran (really great!)
[3] This Made me Happy: Happy Couple Singing
[4] What to do?
[5] Our Lady May crown
[6] I know you're praying, but
[7] Newest essential Boy Scout equipment
[8] Police Show Up
[9] Literal Drug Commercial
[1] Late Leet
[2] Ghost appears to several
[3] Tornados coming to visit
[4] Board Game by Nun
[5] My Uncle Finally Bought An Electronic Cigarette!
[6] New post your pic thread?
[7] Feeling alone against the system.
[8] Facebook is the liquor of the internet!
[9] Genealogy...Fruits?
[1] Just Fyi
[2] Sample of my artwork
[3] "anyways" is NOT a word!!!!
[4] Imp, I really wish I wasn't replying to a sweet potato.
[5] All English/Brits post ITT (help!)
[6] Cute Hockey Player
[7] Attending Russian Orthodox DL
[8] Sound Off on Social Security
[9] In honour of Cinquo de Mayo (includes Math)
[1] I finally did it.
[2] Why is the forum not more popular/well known?
[3] Valaam Monastery Docuмentary
[4] ITT: I give you some good music
[5] Chuck the Lawn / Xeriscape?
[6] AA and Other Twelve Step Groups
[7] Hook, Line, and Singer 2?
[8] Fisheaters cookbook
[9] Can no longer ignore my husband's situation
[1] What's a man to do?
[2] Best Original Breakfast Idea of 2013
[3] Zimbabwe Helicopter. An investment I, very luckily, avoided
[4] What should I say to Michael Voris?
[5] Post your greatest and best song in the world
[6] Quick! Raffle for Latin/English Summa + $1000 (Thomas Aquinas College)
[7] Lumen Gentium 16, Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus VS stillborn but Baptised
[8] Winter Lingering On
[9] Cats Can Be Jerks Sometimes
Then there's a page here from the CathInfo gripespot:
Quote from: DustinsDad
The scandal here is whether or not a traditional catholic forum condones transɛҳuąƖism and sex change operations. That is insanity and that is the main scandal. That a person unfortunately entangled in such diabolical disorders is also apparently a promiscuous ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is hardly a shocker, nor is the fact that this particular aspect of his life was kept off the pages of a traditional catholic forum.
So what's the deal here? Is someone gonna try to tell me transɛҳuąƖism and sex changes are traditional? (cue twilight zone music here)
The "forum" doesn't condone anything. It's a thing.
As to what I, myself, condone, I don't see why that should matter to anyone, really; I'm just a person on the web, like everyone else -- no one's guru, no one's priest, in possession of no authority in the Church whatsoever. But, FYI, I believe what the Church teaches. Everyone should study encyclicals, ask their priests, read Catechisms, read Vatican docuмents issued to Bishops, etc., to figure out what that is.
Ursus:
Quote from: Vox Clamantis
First, I don't "gotta" do anything.
Second, no, I won't do a "quick search" to find dirt on people. I will leave that to the holier-than-thou types.
Third, of course I chide people for not being nice to other posters. No one has ever had to agree with what she was doing, however. If you can't see the difference, well, that's why wars get started.
Fourth, I didn't see anyone "mocking" the Faith at all. She is a Catholic, she's a sinner like you are. Let's air your dirt, shall we?
Fifth, if you're worried about things like "porn sites" being "connected to" FE because some member here is alleged to have visited one, then you shouldn't. I'd bet a good 75% of forum members have visited a porn site in the past 6 months. How other people here visiting porn sites would make you look like a "fool" is beyond me. I think you should worry less about other people's sins and focus more on your own.
Stop. Calm down. Take a breath. I'll pray for you. :pray2: :pray2:
LaramieHirsch:
Quote from: Vox Clamantis
As to what I, myself, condone, I don't see why that should matter to anyone, really; I'm just a person on the web, like everyone else -- no one's guru, no one's priest, in possession of no authority in the Church whatsoever.
Vox, you're the captain of this ship. You're in charge of what used to be one of the biggest most popular Traditional Catholic websites on the internet. People felt like they found a treasure when they discovered this place.
You direct it. Your leadership is reflected when you either enforce rules, break them, or ignore them. Your personality is seen in this forum by the way you run it.
It does matter. What you condone matters. You're not just a person on the web. You're an important person. Right now, your actions will determine the thoughts and perhaps even spiritual direction of at least a hundred people. The magnifying glass is on you and your Fisheaters. You are not anonymous. You are not a civilian. You are not powerless. How you conduct yourself as the manager of this institution matters.
You may not have spiritual authority, but you do have temporal authority--of this discussion forum. This collection of thinkers and conversationalists. And what you do here will not only affect the members of Fisheaters who've stuck around for whatever reason, but those actions will also affect people who participate on other forums, as well as people who are thinking about joining forums.
The only question for you at this moment...at this apex of the moment...is...what do you want Fisheaters to be?
Is it still a Traditional Catholic forum?
Vox Clamantis:
Quote from: LaramieHirsch
Quote from: Vox Clamantis
As to what I, myself, condone, I don't see why that should matter to anyone, really; I'm just a person on the web, like everyone else -- no one's guru, no one's priest, in possession of no authority in the Church whatsoever.
Vox, you're the captain of this ship. You're in charge of what used to be one of the biggest most popular Traditional Catholic websites on the internet. People felt like they found a treasure when they discovered this place.
You direct it. Your leadership is reflected when you either enforce rules, break them, or ignore them. Your personality is seen in this forum by the way you run it.
It does matter. What you condone matters. You're not just a person on the web. You're an important person. Right now, your actions will determine the thoughts and perhaps even spiritual direction of at least a hundred people. The magnifying glass is on you and your Fisheaters. You are not anonymous. You are not a civilian. You are not powerless. How you conduct yourself as the manager of this institution matters.
You may not have spiritual authority, but you do have temporal authority--of this discussion forum. This collection of thinkers and conversationalists. And what you do here will not only affect the members of Fisheaters who've stuck around for whatever reason, but those actions will also affect people who participate on other forums, as well as people who are thinking about joining forums.
The only question for you at this moment...at this apex of the moment...is...what do you want Fisheaters to be?
Is it still a Traditional Catholic forum?
Of course it's a traditional Catholic forum. Always has been and always will be as long as it's around. I have never condoned or taught a thing against Church teaching, not even once.
For the record, this is what "traditional Catholicism" means: traditional Catholicism It doesn't mean judging other people's souls, casting stones, committing the sins of detraction and calumny, all of which I refuse to do. It also doesn't mean not being a sinner, though that's the obvious goal. I am not going to search the internet to find stuff on people that's none of my business and then ban them for it here or re-post it in order to -- hmm, to what exactly, I'm not sure. Dehumanize? Humiliate? Call into question the Catholiciity of someone? Make myself look better than someone else? Whatever the goal of such a thing, it's very not my style. I am not the Judge. If that makes me and my forum "scandalous" (ahem), then so be it. I wouldn't want people trying to dig up dirt on me or people I love, and I don't want to do that to others or allow it here. It simply isn't the Catholic thing to do, and the people doing it should be very ashamed of themselves, at least as ashamed if not more ashamed than people who post on a not-so-nice dating site. At least there's no malice in that, as sinful as it might be. Malice is the key to me. And some people have been really full of that around here lately. It's ugly.
With a forum like that, my first hunch was, "Could this be a bunch of queer sympathizers with garbage on the brain?" So, why would it be any surprise then, that they would support sodomy and cross-dressing?
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