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Offline TheHarlequinKing

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Is one of the posters at fisheaters a transɛҳuąƖ?
« Reply #420 on: February 10, 2014, 11:36:14 PM »
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  • Quote from: icterus
    HK dresses funny, but that's not his problem.  Read enough of his posts on FE and AQ, and you'll see that there are other issues there.  

    If he hangs around here a while, I'm making popcorn, because that would be fun to watch.


    It's been so long since I've posted at AQ, I don't even remember what I said. I may not even agree with what I said in those days anymore.


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    Is one of the posters at fisheaters a transɛҳuąƖ?
    « Reply #421 on: February 11, 2014, 12:46:34 PM »
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    I've been ignoring all these salacious threads all this time and now I see how it has been a good idea to ignore them all along.  Surprise, surprise --- NOT.


    Post = June 27th, 2013
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    To see a concrete example of a transsɛҳuąƖ DECEIVING thousands of traditional Catholics -- that can be quite instructive.

    These perverts need to be exposed for what they are -- seekers of perverted, base pleasure.

    FYI -- not all transsɛҳuąƖs are interested in sex. When I was giving him the benefit of the doubt earlier, that's why. But it turns out he's a practicing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, a pervert, who likes to wear women's clothing.

    This is a new low for Fisheaters. To have a promiscuous, practicing sodomite on their forum, as a member in good standing!



    I have a question:  

    Does anyone know if there is any explanation to be found on CathInfo regarding WHY the sin of Sodom (unnatural vice) is a sin that cries to heaven for vengeance?  

    Note:  I have to resort to asking the question, because there is literally no way on this forum to find out the real answer to this question by any other means.

    If the topic has come up, it is most likely not to be intelligible from the title of the thread in which the discussion has occurred, for example.




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    Is one of the posters at fisheaters a transɛҳuąƖ?
    « Reply #422 on: February 11, 2014, 02:54:50 PM »
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  • Fair question. The short answer is that it's one of the sins described in the Old Testament that eslpecially provoked God's wrath. The Douay Catechism of 1649 provides the skinny on them, with some Scriptural citations:



    CHAPTER XX – The sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance
    Q. 925. HOW many such sins are there?
    A. Four.

    Q. 926. What is the first of them?
    A. Wilful murder, which is a voluntary and unjust taking away another’s life.

    Q. 927. How show you the depravity of this sin?
    A. Out of Gen. iv. 10. Where it is said to Cain “What hast thou done? the voice of the blood of thy brother crieth to me from the earth: now, therefore shalt thou be cursed upon the earth.” And Matt. xxvi 52, “All that take the sword, shall perish with the sword.”

    Q. 928. What is the second?
    A. The sin of Sodom, or carnal sin against nature, which is a voluntary shedding of the seed of nature, out of the due use of marriage, or lust with a different sex.

    Q. 929. What is the scripture proof of this?
    A. Out of Gen. xix. 13. where we read of the Sodomites, and their sin. “We will destroy this place because the cry of them hath increased before our Lord, who hath sent us to destroy them,” (and they were burnt with fire from heaven.)

    Q. 930. What is the third?
    A. Oppressing of the poor, which is a cruel, tyrannical, and unjust dealing with inferiors.

    Q. 931. What other proof have you of that?
    A. Out of Exod. xxii. 21. “Ye shall not hurt the widow and the fatherless: If you do hurt them, they will cry unto me, and I will hear them cry, and my fury shall take indignation, and I will strike thee with the sword.” And out of Isa. x. 1, 2. “Wo to them that make unjust laws, that they might oppress the poor in judgment, and do violence to the cause of the humble of my people.”

    Q. 932. What is the fourth?
    A. To defraud working men of their wages, which is to lessen, or detain it from them.

    Q. 933. What proof have you of it?
    A. Out of Eccl. xxxiv. 37. “He that sheddeth blood and he that defraudeth the hired man, are brethren,” and out of James v. 4. “Behold the hire of the workmen that have reaped your fields, which is defrauded by you, crieth, and their cry hath entered into the ears of the Lord God of Sabbath."

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    Is one of the posters at fisheaters a transɛҳuąƖ?
    « Reply #423 on: February 12, 2014, 01:18:36 PM »
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    « Reply #424 on: February 13, 2014, 11:35:41 PM »
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    I have a question:

    Does anyone know if there is any explanation to be found on CathInfo regarding WHY the sin of Sodom (unnatural vice) is a sin that cries to heaven for vengeance?  




    Quote from: TheHarlequinKing
    Fair question. The short answer is that it's one of the sins described in the Old Testament that especially provoked God's wrath. The Douay Catechism of 1649 provides the skinny on them, with some Scriptural citations:



    Thank you for your reply, HarlequinKing.

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    CHAPTER XX – The sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance
    Q. 925. HOW many such sins are there?
    A. Four.

    Q. 926. What is the first of them?
    A. Wilful murder, which is a voluntary and unjust taking away another’s life.

    Q. 927. How show you the depravity of this sin?
    A. Out of Gen. iv. 10. Where it is said to Cain “What hast thou done? the voice of the blood of thy brother crieth to me from the earth: now, therefore shalt thou be cursed upon the earth.” And Matt. xxvi 52, “All that take the sword, shall perish with the sword.”

    Q. 928. What is the second?
    A. The sin of Sodom, or carnal sin against nature, which is a voluntary shedding of the seed of nature, out of the due use of marriage, or lust with a different sex.

    Q. 929. What is the scripture proof of this?
    A. Out of Gen. xix. 13. where we read of the Sodomites, and their sin. “We will destroy this place because the cry of them hath increased before our Lord, who hath sent us to destroy them,” (and they were burnt with fire from heaven.)



    I see there is a starting point, in Gen. xix. 13, so I could start there.

    But I'm going to be doing a lot of Bible reading, which is okay.  I was kind of hoping someone would have a guide for which books, chapters and verses to look at for starters.

    “We will destroy this place because the cry of them hath increased before our Lord, who hath sent us to destroy them,”  -- I recall not finding the answer to this question by looking for who was crying, how they cried, why they cried, and what sins caused them to cry.  I mean, it seemed there should have been a few hapless victims somewhere, who were still crying, when Lot couldn't find even 10 "just men."

    The reason I'm still wondering is, the other sins are pretty much self-explanatory.  But regarding Sodomy, there is still something mysterious about it.  I could take some guesses, but I was expecting that someone has some solid reference work by someone else who has already done the "dirty work."  Pun, inescapable.


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    Q. 930. What is the third?
    A. Oppressing of the poor, which is a cruel, tyrannical, and unjust dealing with inferiors.

    Q. 931. What other proof have you of that?
    A. Out of Exod. xxii. 21. “Ye shall not hurt the widow and the fatherless: If you do hurt them, they will cry unto me, and I will hear them cry, and my fury shall take indignation, and I will strike thee with the sword.” And out of Isa. x. 1, 2. “Wo to them that make unjust laws, that they might oppress the poor in judgment, and do violence to the cause of the humble of my people.”

    Q. 932. What is the fourth?
    A. To defraud working men of their wages, which is to lessen, or detain it from them.

    Q. 933. What proof have you of it?
    A. Out of Eccl. xxxiv. 37. “He that sheddeth blood and he that defraudeth the hired man, are brethren,” and out of James v. 4. “Behold the hire of the workmen that have reaped your fields, which is defrauded by you, crieth, and their cry hath entered into the ears of the Lord God of Sabbath."



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    « Reply #425 on: February 13, 2014, 11:54:54 PM »
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    FYI I took a quick look around Fisheaters, and found a thread with some 30+ pages whining about how terrible CathInfo is, with nothing objective to back up the whining.  Plus, the posts have no dates, so I couldn't tell if they were a week old or 5 years old.  Plus, a lot of posts were partially hacked down with words missing and notes in there place that something was removed by "Vox," whatever "Vox" is.   Maybe like Sox? or Box? or Pox?  

    Fox?

    Rox?

    Cox?

    I had a cat named Gax.   Maybe he ran away and started a forum?  

    Anyway, there's one giant segment of Fisheaters that lists a bunch of random thread titles with no catagories, and no apparent relation to each other.  I picked a few of them to read and found the posts have almost nothing to do with the thread titles, either.  None of these threads or posts I found had ANY DATES on them.  

    A small sample looks like this:



    [1] Lost Ship maybe found?

    [2] New York State trip - looking for suggestions

    [3] Talentless conspirator extraordinaire has REALLY crossed the line this time

    [4] Two Faces on Cat?

    [5] Shall I move to the States? Let the Tank decide!

    [6] Spidey Who Couldn't Hide (For Jayne)

    [7] Tridentine Humor

    [8] Spirit Daily has Fisheaters page on its main headline

    [9] What happens when a Jєω and a Catholic marry?

    [-] Real Life Get-togethers and Friendships

    [-] In Search of a Spouse

    [-] Swap Group!

    [-] Hook, Line, and Singer!

    [1] Too tired to pray

    [2] New blog

    [3] What in the -you-know-where is going on?

    [4] Great sermon today at Mass

    [5] Feisian War Horses

    [6] Gather a sin = worst "church" song in history of man!

    [7] The Big Ten

    [8] What Do YOU Cut Out to Save Money?

    [9] The special list

    [2] Recent Ordination in SanFran (really great!)

    [3] This Made me Happy: Happy Couple Singing

    [4] What to do?

    [5] Our Lady May crown

    [6] I know you're praying, but

    [7] Newest essential Boy Scout equipment

    [8] Police Show Up

    [9] Literal Drug Commercial

    [1] Late Leet

    [2] Ghost appears to several

    [3] Tornados coming to visit

    [4] Board Game by Nun

    [5] My Uncle Finally Bought An Electronic Cigarette!

    [6] New post your pic thread?

    [7] Feeling alone against the system.

    [8] Facebook is the liquor of the internet!

    [9] Genealogy...Fruits?

    [1] Just Fyi

    [2] Sample of my artwork

    [3] "anyways" is NOT a word!!!!

    [4] Imp, I really wish I wasn't replying to a sweet potato.

    [5] All English/Brits post ITT (help!)

    [6] Cute Hockey Player

    [7] Attending Russian Orthodox DL

    [8] Sound Off on Social Security

    [9] In honour of Cinquo de Mayo (includes Math)

    [1] I finally did it.

    [2] Why is the forum not more popular/well known?


    [3] Valaam Monastery Docuмentary

    [4] ITT: I give you some good music

    [5] Chuck the Lawn / Xeriscape?

    [6] AA and Other Twelve Step Groups

    [7] Hook, Line, and Singer 2?

    [8] Fisheaters cookbook

    [9] Can no longer ignore my husband's situation

    [1] What's a man to do?

    [2] Best Original Breakfast Idea of 2013

    [3] Zimbabwe Helicopter. An investment I, very luckily, avoided

    [4] What should I say to Michael Voris?

    [5] Post your greatest and best song in the world

    [6] Quick! Raffle for Latin/English Summa + $1000 (Thomas Aquinas College)

    [7] Lumen Gentium 16, Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus VS stillborn but Baptised

    [8] Winter Lingering On

    [9] Cats Can Be Jerks Sometimes





    Then there's a page here from the CathInfo gripespot:


    Quote from: DustinsDad


    The scandal here is whether or not a traditional catholic forum condones transɛҳuąƖism and sex change operations. That is insanity and that is the main scandal. That a person unfortunately entangled in such diabolical disorders is also apparently a promiscuous ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is hardly a shocker, nor is the fact that this particular aspect of his life was kept off the pages of a traditional catholic forum.

    So what's the deal here? Is someone gonna try to tell me transɛҳuąƖism and sex changes are traditional? (cue twilight zone music here)


    The "forum" doesn't condone anything. It's a thing.

    As to what I, myself, condone, I don't see why that should matter to anyone, really; I'm just a person on the web, like everyone else -- no one's guru, no one's priest, in possession of no authority in the Church whatsoever. But, FYI, I believe what the Church teaches.  Everyone should study encyclicals, ask their priests, read Catechisms, read Vatican docuмents issued to Bishops, etc., to figure out what that is.
     
     

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    First, I don't "gotta" do anything.

    Second, no, I won't do a "quick search" to find dirt on people. I will leave that to the holier-than-thou types.

    Third, of course I chide people for not being nice to other posters. No one has ever had to agree with what she was doing, however. If you can't see the difference, well, that's why wars get started.

    Fourth, I didn't see anyone "mocking" the Faith at all. She is a Catholic, she's a sinner like you are. Let's air your dirt, shall we?

    Fifth, if you're worried about things like "porn sites" being "connected to" FE because some member here is alleged to have visited one, then you shouldn't. I'd bet a good 75% of forum members have visited a porn site in the past 6 months. How other people here visiting porn sites would make you look like a "fool" is beyond me. I think you should worry less about other people's sins and focus more on your own.
     



    Stop. Calm down. Take a breath. I'll pray for you.  :pray2: :pray2:

    LaramieHirsch:
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    As to what I, myself, condone, I don't see why that should matter to anyone, really; I'm just a person on the web, like everyone else -- no one's guru, no one's priest, in possession of no authority in the Church whatsoever.


    Vox, you're the captain of this ship.  You're in charge of what used to be one of the biggest most popular Traditional Catholic websites on the internet.  People felt like they found a treasure when they discovered this place.

    You direct it.  Your leadership is reflected when you either enforce rules, break them, or ignore them.  Your personality is seen in this forum by the way you run it.

    It does matter.  What you condone matters.  You're not just a person on the web.  You're an important person.  Right now, your actions will determine the thoughts and perhaps even spiritual direction of at least a hundred people.  The magnifying glass is on you and your Fisheaters.  You are not anonymous.  You are not a civilian.  You are not powerless.  How you conduct yourself as the manager of this institution matters.

    You may not have spiritual authority, but you do have temporal authority--of this discussion forum.  This collection of thinkers and conversationalists.  And what you do here will not only affect the members of Fisheaters who've stuck around for whatever reason, but those actions will also affect people who participate on other forums, as well as people who are thinking about joining forums.

    The only question for you at this moment...at this apex of the moment...is...what do you want Fisheaters to be?

    Is it still a Traditional Catholic forum?

    Vox Clamantis:
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    As to what I, myself, condone, I don't see why that should matter to anyone, really; I'm just a person on the web, like everyone else -- no one's guru, no one's priest, in possession of no authority in the Church whatsoever.


    Vox, you're the captain of this ship.  You're in charge of what used to be one of the biggest most popular Traditional Catholic websites on the internet.  People felt like they found a treasure when they discovered this place.

    You direct it.  Your leadership is reflected when you either enforce rules, break them, or ignore them.  Your personality is seen in this forum by the way you run it.

    It does matter.  What you condone matters.  You're not just a person on the web.  You're an important person.  Right now, your actions will determine the thoughts and perhaps even spiritual direction of at least a hundred people.  The magnifying glass is on you and your Fisheaters.  You are not anonymous.  You are not a civilian.  You are not powerless.  How you conduct yourself as the manager of this institution matters.

    You may not have spiritual authority, but you do have temporal authority--of this discussion forum.  This collection of thinkers and conversationalists.  And what you do here will not only affect the members of Fisheaters who've stuck around for whatever reason, but those actions will also affect people who participate on other forums, as well as people who are thinking about joining forums.

    The only question for you at this moment...at this apex of the moment...is...what do you want Fisheaters to be?

    Is it still a Traditional Catholic forum?


    Of course it's a traditional Catholic forum. Always has been and always will be as long as it's around.  I have never condoned or taught a thing against Church teaching, not even once.

    For the record, this is what "traditional Catholicism" means:  traditional Catholicism  It doesn't mean judging other people's souls, casting stones, committing the sins of detraction and calumny, all of which I refuse to do. It also doesn't mean not being a sinner, though that's the obvious goal. I am not going to search the internet to find stuff on people that's none of my business and then ban them for it here or re-post it in order to -- hmm, to what exactly, I'm not sure. Dehumanize? Humiliate? Call into question the Catholiciity of someone? Make myself look better than someone else?  Whatever the goal of such a thing, it's very not my style. I am not the Judge. If that makes me and my forum "scandalous" (ahem), then so be it. I wouldn't want people trying to dig up dirt on me or people I love, and I don't want to do that to others or allow it here. It simply isn't the Catholic thing to do, and the people doing it should be very ashamed of themselves, at least as ashamed if not more ashamed than people who post on a not-so-nice dating site. At least there's no malice in that, as sinful as it might be. Malice is the key to me. And some people have been really full of that around here lately. It's ugly.
     
     








    With a forum like that, my first hunch was, "Could this be a bunch of queer sympathizers with garbage on the brain?"  So, why would it be any surprise then, that they would support sodomy and cross-dressing?



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    Is one of the posters at fisheaters a transɛҳuąƖ?
    « Reply #426 on: February 14, 2014, 10:39:08 AM »
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  • Fisheaters has been a cesspool for years before the Impy scandal reared its ugly head. Last year's endorsement of transɛҳuąƖism simply cracked the whole thing wide open and exposed the filth for all to see.

    And yet, through all this, Fr Cekada has been a semi to regular poster... and has remained silent on these outrages.

    Why? Is it simply a matter of FE's higher numbers? Is he hoping to grab a few more sales for "Work of Human Hands" there? And yet sedevacantism is a forbidden subject there, isn't it?

    It's more than a little odd. But in any case, Fr Cekada's silence (and I find it hard to believe he could be ignorant of all this) is, to put it mildly, disconcerting.

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    « Reply #427 on: February 14, 2014, 10:46:22 AM »
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  • Quote from: BTNYC
    Fisheaters has been a cesspool for years before the Impy scandal reared its ugly head. Last year's endorsement of transɛҳuąƖism simply cracked the whole thing wide open and exposed the filth for all to see.

    And yet, through all this, Fr Cekada has been a semi to regular poster... and has remained silent on these outrages.

    Why? Is it simply a matter of FE's higher numbers? Is he hoping to grab a few more sales for "Work of Human Hands" there? And yet sedevacantism is a forbidden subject there, isn't it?

    It's more than a little odd. But in any case, Fr Cekada's silence (and I find it hard to believe he could be ignorant of all this) is, to put it mildly, disconcerting.


    Sedevacantism is now allowed.  From what I can see, Fr Cekada posts in one or two sub-forums and he doesn't post a lot.  There may be a flurry of his posts at a given time but then you don't see him for awhile.  I have never seen him post in the one forum where all the hoopla occurred.

    So, I wouldn't be surprised if he did not know. Why don't you write him, tell him what happened and then see what he does/doesn't do?  I know there are certain posters who have an axe to grind with him, but personally I wish he'd post here instead.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    « Reply #428 on: February 14, 2014, 02:39:43 PM »
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    Sedevacantism is now allowed.


    And you can thank me at any time for that.  

    I opened up the topic of sedevacantism there, as I was arguing to Vox that it would only help to grow numbers, and that it was a topic that should be discussed, rather than ignored.  

    Of course, at the time, I was pushing for a sede criticism section.  But I don't think there's anyone over there who knows anything about the topic, so there's simply a folder where sedevacantism is now freely discussed.  


    In fact, ever since last year's event, it seems that most male minds have been pushed out of the forum.  Even pinning down a clear definition on effeminate behavior is impossible there.  So, a lot of incentive to continue participation has been lost.  


    Anyway, those are my thoughts, since I was quoted in this thread.
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