Author Topic: Is one of the posters at fisheaters a transɛҳuąƖ? (Read 92718 times)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #380 on:** June 30, 2013, 02:22:02 PM »

The idea that someone is called a pharisee for condemning presence of a public sodomite on a Catholic forum by someone who praises the courage of a public cross dresser - is absurdity!

It is so totally divorced from Catholic Tradition and Catholic civilization, that it literally is preposterous. Let's not give this witch more credit than she's due. She's not some well-meaning retard.

This woman is making a demonic mockery of the religion, and she must know it.

Meg · « **Reply #381 on:** June 30, 2013, 02:25:04 PM »

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Quote from: Meg
I don't understand why it is that Vox thinks that the sins that Impy has committed are just not a big deal, but those of us who take issue with it are committing the worst sin ever by being phariseacal (did I spell that right)?).

Pharisaical.

And no, people who take issue with the public scandal on Fisheaters Forum are not being Pharisaical. And unless one has specific public knowledge about an individual to make this claim, it is calumnious to make such a statement. And it is not the worst sin.

Those who denounce it with concern for morality and the potential damage it is doing to people now, and the damage it could cause in the future are doing something good.

http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3459552.msg33909576.html#msg33909576

Quote from: Vox Clamantis
I think the scandal is at another forum where the folks engage in detraction, slander, cast stones, judge souls, gossip, and so forth. But if that is what some people think is really "traditional Catholicism," I pray they go there and leave this place. I don't want any of it here, where Catholic teaching will be upheld, Vatican docuмents honored, and people who want to engage in the above behaviors won't be tolerated, though sinners qua sinners will.

* Detraction: means there is a sin being discussed, and it is not detraction if the sin is public. Public sins should be denounced.
* Slander: Defamation is the more general term in this case, and it is only defamation if it is not true. While some people may have posted accusations or speculations which were not true, the focus is on the public statements made by individuals on Fisheaters.
* Cast Stones: Our Lord told the woman caught in adultery to "sin no more". If she continued to sin, she was justly condemned by God eternally.
* Judge Souls: We are judging acts. We are not going to turn a blind eye to evil in some perverted notion of "charity".
* Gossip: It isn't gossip if it is public knowledge.
* Our Lord "All things therefore whatsoever they shall say to you, observe and do: but according to their works do ye not; for they say, and do not." (Matthew 23:3), so even if there is gossip, detraction, and casting stones, that does not absolve the grave sins which are committed, defended, concealed, and praised on Fisheaters by a member and the admin, and others.

A very good explanation and summary of the situation - thanks. I only hope that Vox will read the above with an open mind, and willingness to truly understand. But it probably won't happen.

I agree with Santo Subito that it's probably not a good idea for a woman to run a forum, especially a supposed trad forum. We woman are prone to being ruled by our emotions, and we have the tendency to think we are ALWAYS right. I have this problem, too, but am trying to work on it.

Hatchc · « **Reply #382 on:** June 30, 2013, 02:42:48 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

The idea that someone is called a pharisee for condemning presence of a public sodomite on a Catholic forum by someone who praises the courage of a public cross dresser - is absurdity!

It is so totally divorced from Catholic Tradition and Catholic civilization, that it literally is preposterous. Let's not give this witch more credit than she's due. She's not some well-meaning retard.

This woman is making a demonic mockery of the religion, and she must know it.

So true.

She's the most double-minded person I've ever encountered on the internet.

It's as if she's a parrot who's memorized the terminology and symbolism of traditional Catholicism without understanding one iota of it.

You'd think someone who is knowledgeable enough to have a rule against Noahidism wouldn't be a Noahide.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #383 on:** June 30, 2013, 02:53:12 PM »

Quote from: Vox

I think the scandal is at another forum where the folks engage in detraction, slander, cast stones, judge souls, gossip, and so forth. But if that is what some people think is really "traditional Catholicism," I pray they go there and leave this place. I don't want any of it here, where Catholic teaching will be upheld, Vatican docuмents honored, and people who want to engage in the above behaviors won't be tolerated, though sinners qua sinners will.

This is basically the FSSP's idea of Traditional Catholicism: don't criticize, don't cast judgment, just ignore the evil and seek the good.

Vox's positions, however, are so liberal that they almost make the FSSP's position seem decent. Vox thinks Traditional Catholicism is just preferring the TLM to the NO and preferring Vatican I to Vatican II. There's so much more to it than that. She is so stubborn, however, that no one can convince her she's wrong. Bishop Williamson says that you really can't reason with people whose minds are unhinged.

Also, what does she mean by "Vatican docuмents honored"? Is she suggesting that you can't criticize Vatican II's docuмents over there? Given her "no criticisms of the Holy Father" rule, I wouldn't doubt it.

TheKnightVigilant · « **Reply #384 on:** June 30, 2013, 02:55:14 PM »

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I personally have not read the thread over at CI and don't intend to. My only reason for posting this is to reach out to Impy or Clare or Timothy, whichever name you go by in real life. My sincere hope is that in spite of all that has transpired, you don't stop posting here at FE. Even though I seldom post on this forum I am aware of your struggles and I want you to know that you are in my prayers. There are many good people here who genuinely care about you and are concerned about what happens to you. Even if we cannot fully appreciate your particular cross, we do empathize. After all we are all sinners with our own personal demons to overcome, (with the help of God's grace of course). I personally do not judge or condemn you. The only persons sins I condemn are my own. When I consider all the offenses I've committed against God, I can only echo the psalmist, (I'm paraphrasing) I'm overwhelmed, I'm numbed by the weight of them.

Anyway I think that it would be a mistake for you to stop posting here just because of the actions of some jerk on another forum that doesn't even deserve to be called Catholic. It can only be beneficial to continue to interact with and share your problems with others of the same faith. So please, if you can manage to overcome your shame and embarrassment, please come back. We'd all love to hear from you.

http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3459517.100.html

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