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« Reply #120 on: July 15, 2009, 09:23:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: Dawn
    Really? I do that for my husband all the time. I also set up his coffee, make certain that his clothes are clean (I do not set them out for him.) I line up his vitamins.
    Fisheaters must forget that you do those things for Jesus when you do them for your spouse. That explains alot right there.


    Hmmm. True.

    And the corollary is: husbands are asking Jesus to make them a sandwich...
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    « Reply #121 on: July 15, 2009, 09:31:59 AM »
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    Hmmm. True.

    And the corollary is: husbands are asking Jesus to make them a sandwich...


    Give us this day our daily bread.  Yes, we do ask for God to provide our sustenance.

    Fish Eaters don't believe a wife should obey her husband, or at least are unwilling to admit a single concrete example.
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    « Reply #122 on: July 15, 2009, 09:36:08 AM »
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    • Nonsense. The wife is making the sandwich for another human, in this instance her husband, out of her love for Jesus.
    Everything I do in my home life is out of love for Jesus. Cleaning my house, teaching my children, all of the food I prepare. As a Catholic Woman, my love for Jesus is what helps me deal with everything that occurs in a day. We make a morning offering that all of our thoughts and actions are to be offered to Jesus. Yes, even making a sandwich when a husband asks. Problem here folks is modernism. Women tody have a false sense of self, which manisfests itself in selfishness. I have known stay at home moms who, when the husband is done with his work day, declares that her job is finished and he can take over with the house and children. She needs "downtime." Nonsense. She needs to re-order her life and put God first, husband next and then children.
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    « Reply #123 on: July 15, 2009, 10:01:56 AM »
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    Nonsense. The wife is making the sandwich for another human, in this instance her husband, out of her love for Jesus.
    Everything I do in my home life is out of love for Jesus. Cleaning my house, teaching my children, all of the food I prepare. As a Catholic Woman, my love for Jesus is what helps me deal with everything that occurs in a day. We make a morning offering that all of our thoughts and actions are to be offered to Jesus. Yes, even making a sandwich when a husband asks. Problem here folks is modernism. Women tody have a false sense of self, which manisfests itself in selfishness. I have known stay at home moms who, when the husband is done with his work day, declares that her job is finished and he can take over with the house and children. She needs "downtime." Nonsense. She needs to re-order her life and put God first, husband next and then children.


    Of course. But it cuts both ways, doesn't it? The husband is not exempt from the requirement to be unselfish.

    Not that I am saying it is selfish to ask for a sandwich, but it might be in certain circuмstances.
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    « Reply #124 on: July 15, 2009, 10:12:29 AM »
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    Of course. But it cuts both ways, doesn't it? The husband is not exempt from the requirement to be unselfish.

    Not that I am saying it is selfish to ask for a sandwich, but it might be in certain circuмstances.


    Of course, one must be kind.  But I really can't believe that they find it so extraordinary to believe that a man should be able to expect his wife to make a sandwich for him out of obedience.

    It's amazing.

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    « Reply #125 on: July 15, 2009, 10:37:39 AM »
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    • All the better to make the sandwich for a selfish husband. More merit there. Obedience, wow now you have opened it up. Modern women hate that word. " I am woman hear me roar" I will kick it up a notch myself. Mouthy, demanding, whiny women give women a bad name.
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    « Reply #126 on: July 15, 2009, 09:29:06 PM »
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    • Sandwiches taste much better if a wife makes them, this is a fact.  :ready-to-eat: :ready-to-eat: :ready-to-eat:
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    « Reply #127 on: July 15, 2009, 10:10:59 PM »
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    Chant,

    Yes, correct, I did start this thread! Haha. ;)

    I meant, that after months Scipio messaged me and thus I found the thread again as a result.

    Hope you are doing well, Chant!


    I wondered what happened to your blog.

    Good to see you posting here.


    Blog is back!

    Blog
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    « Reply #128 on: July 15, 2009, 10:17:52 PM »
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    I will answer you:
    a fisheater is a trad just for TLM, but is a modernist in all other things. If a fisheater is married, you will hear him/her speaking about her wonderfull *** all the time, not to mention diappers, and divorce! gluttony, vanity and  femminism are so common there. And if tell them to be more modest and moderate, you are accused of insulting a sacrament. when I came to cathinfo, I couldn't believe that Dawn, and many others are married and that Chant is so young, because when I compared to fisheaters, they seem too modest to be so!


    Yes, you're exactly right about Fish Eaters.

    Right now they're downrating me for standing up for the proposition that a wife has a duty to make her husband a sandwich if he asks.


    Tele,

    I'm shocked!  :laugh1:

    Did you expect anything less from the feminists and the feminized? They probably believe in the "mutual submission" of JPII. It's whatever floats your boat! You like the TLM? Great? You like the NO? Great? It's I'm ok, you're ok. Unless you happen to be a Traditional Catholic, then it's gloves off!

    They basically justify all sorts of nonsense to ease their consciences because they are in the habit of nonsense.

    The more distance I get from the place, the more I see what a joke it was and how completely lost 80% of them are.

    You'd truly be better off posting at Catholic Answers. I think even they would get this one correct!
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    « Reply #129 on: July 15, 2009, 10:20:35 PM »
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    • I agree that FE has very big problems, but as far as sandwiches go, I think that a wife(as long as she is not busy) should make it if he asks just as a husband should make one for his wife if he is making one for himself as well. To me, I have bigger issues with FE.
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    « Reply #130 on: July 15, 2009, 11:29:29 PM »
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    • Caraffa,

    True. There are much bigger issues there!
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    « Reply #131 on: July 18, 2009, 06:36:06 PM »
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    • From the Decree of the Holy Office, May 27, 1886

    It is asked:

     I. Whether the interpretation is right which is widespread throughout France and even put in print, according to which the judge satisfies the above mentioned condition, who, although a certain marriage is valid in the sight of the Church, ignores that true and unbroken marriage, and applying civil law pronounces that there is ground for divorce, provided he intends in his mind to break only the civil effects and only the civil contract, and provided the terms of the opinion offered consider these alone? In other words, whether an opinion so offered can be said not to be at odds with the divine and ecclesiastical law?

     II. After the judge has pronounced that there is ground for divorce, whether the syndic (in French: le maire), intent also upon only the civil effects and the civil contract, as is explained above, can pronounce a divorce, although the marriage is valid in the eyes of the Church.

     III. After the divorce has been pronounced, whether the same syndic can again join a spouse who strives to enter into other nuptials in a civil ceremony, although the previous marriage is valid in the eyes of the Church and the other party is living?

     The answer is:

    In the negative to the first, the second, and the third.
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    « Reply #132 on: July 18, 2009, 08:30:36 PM »
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    • Caraffa,

    Great find. It really only echoes common Catholic sense.

    I wonder how many posters there are over there who have no idea what's going on and how this issue is tainting the site. Not only through its scandal but through the compromised theology and morality that is being enforced from the authorities there.

    It is just truly sad. Something so noble, pure, and true as Traditional Catholicism being used as bait to lure the unwary into a cess pool of relativistic morality, pick and choose theology and liturgy, and day to day compromise with evil in the world. It is sick.

    Truly, like a fish, Fish Eaters is rotting from the head down.
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    « Reply #133 on: July 18, 2009, 09:31:47 PM »
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    Nonsense. The wife is making the sandwich for another human, in this instance her husband, out of her love for Jesus.
    Everything I do in my home life is out of love for Jesus. Cleaning my house, teaching my children, all of the food I prepare. As a Catholic Woman, my love for Jesus is what helps me deal with everything that occurs in a day. We make a morning offering that all of our thoughts and actions are to be offered to Jesus. Yes, even making a sandwich when a husband asks. Problem here folks is modernism. Women tody have a false sense of self, which manisfests itself in selfishness. I have known stay at home moms who, when the husband is done with his work day, declares that her job is finished and he can take over with the house and children. She needs "downtime." Nonsense. She needs to re-order her life and put God first, husband next and then children.


    Of course. But it cuts both ways, doesn't it? The husband is not exempt from the requirement to be unselfish.

    Not that I am saying it is selfish to ask for a sandwich, but it might be in certain circuмstances.


    A sandwich isn't a big issue and has nothing to do with selfishness or unselfishness. in my country women cook everything their husbands want.
    and it is really normal.
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    « Reply #134 on: July 18, 2009, 11:54:55 PM »
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    • I remember a taxi driver who was a Muslim Iraqi. He said he and his wife were an arranged marriage and they had been married for a long time. Every time he got home after a long night of taxi driving his wife would always have a hot meal waiting for him. He said they were both very happy even though the marriage was arranged.

    I know this only has a little to do with the discussion but I came away from the cab ride feeling he was sincere in what he said.
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