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Re: How to speed up a PC that's running slowly
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2017, 12:17:24 PM »
The single solution. This will work.
Have her clone her current hard drive to an SSD.
The easiest way is to go to a computer shop so they can clone her drive.
No need to buy a new PC. In fact, her current, older PC with an SSD (solid state drive), will be faster than any new PC that is equipped with a standard mechanical hard drive.

The most economical way to do this is find out what is her current hard drive capacity. (I.E. 500GB Hard drive) She may only have only a fraction of the capacity used up.
So let's say she has 100GB used out of her 500GB hard drive. She could buy through amazon a 250GB SSD (I recommend the Western digital blue SSD or a Samsung 850 evo SSD) and go to a PC shop and have the current mechanical hard drive cloned to the SSD drive with a program called Norton Ghost (or any other cloning software). For Windows 7 I like the simplicity of Norton Ghost 11.5.
Right after the cloning process, they unplug the old hard drive cables and just leave the new one active.

Voila! I guarantee she will thank you for her "new pc".
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It would seem you're presuming it's a desktop or tower computer. But it's a laptop.
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So for me to clone an SSD and leave the old hard drive cables unplugged, would the SSD need to be an external drive? 
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Re: How to speed up a PC that's running slowly
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 01:03:35 PM »
I don't believe program icons can slow down a computer; however, programs often run in the background and each program running in the background can result in slower computer speed.

I did have an older computer that was having speed issues.  I looked at each program and realized that there were a number of programs I had installed for a specific purpose and really didn't need or use anymore.  So I started uninstalling all of those unused programs.  I also looked at programs I used on occasion and checked each one to see if it had options to run on start up and those which did, I made sure that they were not running upon start up.  It seems that if that option exists, then they are often installed with the option to run when the computer is turned on and run in the background, ostensibly so that when you want to access the program it can run faster.  But if you don't need or use the program often, that just uses computer resources.

Then I deleted the internet history files and cookies and temp files and defragged the disk.

After restart, the computer ran faster until I ran out of disk space.


Re: How to speed up a PC that's running slowly
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 01:08:31 PM »
Not to "derp" things up, but does this person ever, you know, shut it down?

I suppose the basic point I'm making is, make sure your first checklist is the basic basics, such as "Is it plugged in?", "Is it turned on?" "Have you blown the 'Cheetos' out of it?" etc., etc. etc.
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Not a bad idea to re-think the basics! I think I've covered all those, but I can't be absolutely sure, since there's still a problem. So maybe I've overlooked something basic. This laptop spends most of its time SHUT DOWN. But come to think of it, I'll have to find out HOW she shuts it down. This is a Windows 7 OS, so you're supposed to click on the blue circle in the bottom left corner (says "Start" when you hover the mouse over it) and select Shut down. Then you have to wait while the operating system closes down normally which takes a minute or two. I knew a guy who is real impulsive like the owner of this computer is, and I had to watch him when he shut down his computer when I came over to help him when he was having problems with it. He had a tower HP desktop with an ON switch on top of the front face frame. I couldn't believe what I saw when he was turning off his computer he pressed the ON switch and held it down until the computer suddenly blinked off and the screen went dark. I asked him if he always turns it off that way, and he said, "Yeah." 
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I explained to him that could be most of his problem right there. He had no idea what I was talking about. I said that the computer has a list of things it needs to do in order to shut down normally and you give it the chance to do those things by clicking on the "Shut down" option that appears on the screen. He admitted that he didn't like to wait for that, PLUS he is afraid to leave the computer on when he isn't right there in front of it because he thinks it might catch fire. So when he has to go to the kitchen or answer the door, he usually presses the ON button and holds it down like that to be sure the computer is OFF. I explained to him that every time he forces it to crash like that he does a little damage to the hard drive, so he's wearing out his drive a lot faster, plus it could be causing the system to run slowly because the drive has to jump over the damaged places and re-arrange all its disc information. He said, "Oh, I didn't know that; I thought I was just turning it off like a desk lamp or a radio." 
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He drives a Mercedes Benz Diesel sedan, and when he starts the engine he NEVER waits for the glow plugs to warm up but sticks the key in the ignition switch and twists it letting the engine crank over until it starts. I told him he's wearing out his starter, his battery and his ignition switch like that. He didn't care. About two years later he had to spend $2,000 fixing the ignition switch and starter plus he wore out two batteries. The battery is HUGE, about 18 inches wide and costs about $180.
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You never know how someone uses a machine when nobody's watching.
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The laptop power is okay (battery fine, charger okay, plugged in, charged 100%, then unplug charger to avoid over-charging, don't let the battery go below 30% before charging again). Next step might be to open the cooling ports (remove screws on the bottom and remove the panel covering circuits and stuff) and remove any dust from the fan and heat sink area. I had a laptop that got clogged with cat hair in a corner pocket that wasn't obvious at first. When I used a pipe cleaner with a hook bend in the end I was able to drag out a clump of hair and that made the operating temperature improve a lot. But that wasn't this laptop.
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If this was an Apple laptop it would be a service call because they don't want owners to open up the notebooks. But I've known of guys who do it anyway. Basically it comes down to ruining the first computer in the process of learning how to open it up -- then you can use the experience to safely open the second computer.
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Re: How to speed up a PC that's running slowly
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 01:56:45 PM »
I don't believe program icons can slow down a computer; however, programs often run in the background and each program running in the background can result in slower computer speed.

I did have an older computer that was having speed issues.  I looked at each program and realized that there were a number of programs I had installed for a specific purpose and really didn't need or use anymore.  So I started uninstalling all of those unused programs.  I also looked at programs I used on occasion and checked each one to see if it had options to run on start up and those which did, I made sure that they were not running upon start up.  It seems that if that option exists, then they are often installed with the option to run when the computer is turned on and run in the background, ostensibly so that when you want to access the program it can run faster.  But if you don't need or use the program often, that just uses computer resources.

Then I deleted the internet history files and cookies and temp files and defragged the disk.

After restart, the computer ran faster until I ran out of disk space.
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A computer technician explained to me that in older Microsoft systems invoking the program "msconfig" brings up a window that allows you to uncheck particular programs so they won't initiate upon startup. He said you can uncheck the ENTIRE LIST and restart the computer, then call up msconfig again and see which programs are checked again which you had unchecked. They will usually be antivirus and operating system and maybe very few other essential programs, because they automatically re-check their status for turning on at startup. But other programs, as you say that have the option of not running at startup, remain off. 
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Like with other Microsoft operations, a command such as msconfig still works on later versions, even when you don't find it on a list of programs. Just type it in the "Search programs and files" window under the "Start" option. It opens a new window called System Configuration, which has tabs General, Boot, Services, Startup, Tools, each with other categories below it. I have no idea if this works the same for Windows 8 or 10, but I wouldn't be surprised if it does. I know it works on DOS, Windows 98, 2000, Millennial Edition (a bomb), and later versions including XP, etc.
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Re: How to speed up a PC that's running slowly
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 02:13:47 PM »
This would have been nice to know years ago.

Even though I now have a computer that is less than a year old (I purchased it last summer) I ran this msconfig--going through the search.  I was able to view the programs that run on starting up the computer and saw a couple of programs that I know I have no use for:  Microsoft One Note which, apparently, allows your personal docuмents to be accessed by others since you don't really have any control over them, and a Garmin program--how often do these people think I need to update my Garmin???!

I'll have to research the other programs--they might just be necessary programs for the ordinary use of the machine.