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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2015, 09:59:23 AM »
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    It's my understanding that Emmett Till was murdered for flirting with a white married woman.  He violated the 10th Commandment.  Till was no child (a strapping 14 YO) and he was a Chicago street punk who bragged that he had white girlfriends.  Did he deserve to be murdered?  I'm not suggesting that.  But murder is often a consequence of adulterous behavior.  

    The "Civil Rights" movement was spawned by this murder.  Spawned by adultery.


    Many parents with teenagers think of them as children but that is not always the case. Here is one example:

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    Teen Brothers Busted On Pimping Counts
    Cops: Boys, 15 and 17, ran Washington prostitution ring

    OCTOBER 23--A 15-year-old Washington boy and his 17-year-old brother operated a prostitution ring that employed underage hookers who kicked back money to the duo’s mother, according to investigators.

    The accused pimps--Dionte Hunter and his older brother Thaishaun--are locked up on felony charges stemming from the prostitution business, which operated from their Spokane home.


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    « Reply #16 on: October 26, 2015, 04:15:03 PM »
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    It's my understanding that Emmett Till was murdered for flirting with a white married woman.  He violated the 10th Commandment.  Till was no child (a strapping 14 YO) and he was a Chicago street punk who bragged that he had white girlfriends.  Did he deserve to be murdered?  I'm not suggesting that.  But murder is often a consequence of adulterous behavior.  

    The "Civil Rights" movement was spawned by this murder.  Spawned by adultery.


    Many parents with teenagers think of them as children but that is not always the case. Here is one example:

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    Teen Brothers Busted On Pimping Counts
    Cops: Boys, 15 and 17, ran Washington prostitution ring

    OCTOBER 23--A 15-year-old Washington boy and his 17-year-old brother operated a prostitution ring that employed underage hookers who kicked back money to the duo’s mother, according to investigators.

    The accused pimps--Dionte Hunter and his older brother Thaishaun--are locked up on felony charges stemming from the prostitution business, which operated from their Spokane home.



    It's interesting that the baby pictures on the wall behind them are of white babies.  Maybe the photo was taken by a white "girlfriend"???


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    « Reply #17 on: October 27, 2015, 04:47:03 AM »
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  • The taller kid looks like a young Pedro Martinez.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    « Reply #18 on: October 27, 2015, 04:48:30 AM »
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  • I'm still scratching my head as to why this thread is in the computer forum.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    « Reply #19 on: October 29, 2015, 01:10:10 AM »
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  • I wonder what Laramie Hirsch's ambiguous comment under the Hoffman article means:

    'Ugh. Good Lord.

    Why does this not surprise me?'

    Care to explain, Laramie?
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.


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    « Reply #20 on: October 30, 2015, 03:54:26 AM »
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    It's my understanding that Emmett Till was murdered for flirting with a white married woman.  He violated the 10th Commandment.  Till was no child (a strapping 14 YO) and he was a Chicago street punk who bragged that he had white girlfriends.  Did he deserve to be murdered?  I'm not suggesting that.  But murder is often a consequence of adulterous behavior.  

    The "Civil Rights" movement was spawned by this murder.  Spawned by adultery.


    Emmett Till didn't commit adultery. Whistling is not adultery. What did start the civil rights movement was the unfair treatment that the black people of the South were receiving.
    Many other people were killed by the Ku Klux Klan. Fr Coyle, a Catholic priest and an apologist of the Catholic Faith,  was also killed by the Ku Klux Klan.  

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    « Reply #21 on: October 30, 2015, 04:00:21 AM »
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    It's my understanding that Emmett Till was murdered for flirting with a white married woman.  He violated the 10th Commandment.  Till was no child (a strapping 14 YO) and he was a Chicago street punk who bragged that he had white girlfriends.  Did he deserve to be murdered?  I'm not suggesting that.  But murder is often a consequence of adulterous behavior.  

    The "Civil Rights" movement was spawned by this murder.  Spawned by adultery.


    Here is a typical victim of the Ku Klux Klan in those days;

    Murder[edit]

    On August 11, 1921, Father Coyle was shot in the head on the porch of St. Paul's Rectory by E. R. Stephenson, a Southern Methodist Episcopal minister and a member of the Ku Klux Klan. There were many witnesses.[3] The murder occurred just hours after Coyle had performed a secret wedding between Stephenson's daughter, Ruth, and Pedro Gussman, a Puerto Rican she had met while he was working on Stephenson's house five years earlier. Gussman had also been a customer of Stephenson's barber shop. Several months before the wedding, Ruth had converted to Roman Catholicism.

    Father Coyle was buried in Birmingham's Elmwood Cemetery.

    Trial and aftermath[edit]

    Stephenson was charged with Father Coyle's murder. The Ku Klux Klan paid for the defense; of the five lawyers, four were Klan members. The case was assigned to the Alabama courtroom of Judge William E. Fort, a Klansman. Hugo Black, a future Justice of the Supreme Court and future Klansman, defended Stephenson.

    The defense team took the unusual step of entering a dual plea of "not guilty and not guilty by reason of insanity", essentially arguing both that the shooting was in self-defense, and that at the time of the shooting Stephenson had been suffering from "temporary insanity".[4] Stephenson was acquitted by one vote of the jury. One of Stephenson's attorneys responded to the prosecution's assertion that Gussman was of "proud Castilian descent" by saying "he has descended a long way".[5]

    The outcome of the murder trial for Father Coyle's assassin had a chilling impact on Catholics, who found themselves the target of Klan violence for many years to come.[citation needed] Nevertheless, by 1941 a Catholic writer in Birmingham would write that "the death of Father Coyle was the climax of the anti-Catholic feeling in Alabama. After the trial there followed such revulsion of feeling among the right-minded who before had been bogged down in blindness and indifference that slowly and almost unnoticeably the Ku Klux Klan and their ilk began to lose favor among the people".[6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Coyle

    I know from personal experience as a child what these people are like and I could say more but sometimes silence is better.

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    « Reply #22 on: November 01, 2015, 07:13:02 AM »
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    He has posted wedding pictures and pictures of their baby too. They were beautiful. I really like seeing people with their families, although I understand that many people want to protect their privacy.


    I didn't know he was married with a baby! I haven't seen him since FE days, a long long time ago.



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    « Reply #23 on: November 01, 2015, 08:52:07 AM »
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    He has posted wedding pictures and pictures of their baby too. They were beautiful. I really like seeing people with their families, although I understand that many people want to protect their privacy.


    I didn't know he was married with a baby! I haven't seen him since FE days, a long long time ago.



    As the years pass, there have been quite a few marriages and/or babies among former FE members.  I'm to old for that myself, by I keep adding to my grandchildren collection.

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    « Reply #24 on: November 02, 2015, 04:30:04 PM »
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    It's my understanding that Emmett Till was murdered for flirting with a white married woman.  He violated the 10th Commandment.  Till was no child (a strapping 14 YO) and he was a Chicago street punk who bragged that he had white girlfriends.  Did he deserve to be murdered?  I'm not suggesting that.  But murder is often a consequence of adulterous behavior.  

    The "Civil Rights" movement was spawned by this murder.  Spawned by adultery.


    Emmett Till didn't commit adultery. Whistling is not adultery. What did start the civil rights movement was the unfair treatment that the black people of the South were receiving.
    Many other people were killed by the Ku Klux Klan. Fr Coyle, a Catholic priest and an apologist of the Catholic Faith,  was also killed by the Ku Klux Klan.  


    Emmett Till's Dad was convicted and executed for raping and murdering two Italian women while he was "serving" in the U.S. Army.  So, it's very likely, that the story of Emmett Till has been fabricated.  The internet did not exist in the days of Emmitt Till, so it could be just as much a hoax as the "Duke LaCross rape case" of just a few years ago.

    The mainstream media tried to get away with portraying Michael Brown, the "saint" of Ferguson, MO as a gentle giant but the video came out of his strong arming a convenience store clerk just ten minutes or so before he decided to bum rush a cop.  


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    « Reply #25 on: November 02, 2015, 11:46:29 PM »
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    It's my understanding that Emmett Till was murdered for flirting with a white married woman.  He violated the 10th Commandment.  Till was no child (a strapping 14 YO) and he was a Chicago street punk who bragged that he had white girlfriends.  Did he deserve to be murdered?  I'm not suggesting that.  But murder is often a consequence of adulterous behavior.  

    The "Civil Rights" movement was spawned by this murder.  Spawned by adultery.


    Emmett Till didn't commit adultery. Whistling is not adultery. What did start the civil rights movement was the unfair treatment that the black people of the South were receiving.
    Many other people were killed by the Ku Klux Klan. Fr Coyle, a Catholic priest and an apologist of the Catholic Faith,  was also killed by the Ku Klux Klan.  


    Emmett Till's Dad was convicted and executed for raping and murdering two Italian women while he was "serving" in the U.S. Army.  So, it's very likely, that the story of Emmett Till has been fabricated.  The internet did not exist in the days of Emmitt Till, so it could be just as much a hoax as the "Duke LaCross rape case" of just a few years ago.

    The mainstream media tried to get away with portraying Michael Brown, the "saint" of Ferguson, MO as a gentle giant but the video came out of his strong arming a convenience store clerk just ten minutes or so before he decided to bum rush a cop.  



    While I don't know about Emmett Till's father , the facts of the situation in his case are well docuмented and have not been disputed. It has also never been disputed the way in which the Ku Klux Klan was able to rule by means of intimidation and terrorism. They were also a group that was anti Catholic. Emmet Till was not the only person who was murdered by these evil people.


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    « Reply #26 on: November 03, 2015, 12:06:37 AM »
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  • I think that we are missing the point in arguing about Emmett Till.
    The Harlequin King's original post obviously goes in contradiction to the spirit of the tradition of the Catholic teaching where we live in a society that is in obvious need of reconciliation and charity toward all of the people. It should be roundly condemned and he should be a person who we really should not pay much attention to if we want to grow in Catholic spirituality.

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    « Reply #27 on: November 03, 2015, 11:27:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: rum
    I wonder what Laramie Hirsch's ambiguous comment under the Hoffman article means:

    'Ugh. Good Lord.

    Why does this not surprise me?'

    Care to explain, Laramie?


    HK always struck me as flamboyant.  This little mess of his seems like the natural progression/train-wreck that results from his behavior.

    Am I embarrassed by him?  Embarrassed for him?  It's hard to decide.



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