Why do you guys have to bash FE?
Fisheaters isn't perfect and neither is this place. We are all flawed and sinful human beings that make mistakes.
If anyone had been as upset with me as people have been with KingofSpades on FE, I never would have learned anything about tradition, the TLM, etc. But I love to learn and read more & learn more everyday. I have found the richness of ANYTHING traditional to be astounding and can't believe how much we have lost and discarded.
BUT - I also know how many people were turned of by my abrasiveness and criticisms of the NO when I first found the TLM & tradition.
Lately, I have toned down the rhetoric and focused on showing people WHY I love the TLM & the beauty of the prayers in it. Guess what? I am getting better results.
My attitude when I first found the TLM has pretty much guaranteed my husband will never set foot in one.
Which result do you think I prefer?
No one is saying to compromise the message. Just begin where your audience is coming from and go from there. Be patient and move slowly. So much of traditional thinking and practice is SO VERY different from what comes out of the NO, it is a culture shock and HUGE adjustment. People need time to absorb it, think about it, and internalize it.
You're largely missing the point. It is not just a question of reaching the audience. Modernism is advertised like never before... if you have any doubts just read Scriptorium's last posts on the "falsification of religion" thread, and you'll see how modernism has infiltrated the place to such extent that it is just insulting to the intelligence.
I suppose that's possible. There are a lot of threads I don't read. Especially if they are arguments I don't understand OR have read often enough that I don't want to see them re-hashed again.
Vox has done a poll and SSPXers are a small minority there. Most people will go diocesan TLM, FSSP, or NO. In the poll, there are a lot of people who attend the NO because there is no TLM within an hour driving distance or so.
A lot of them remind me of myself as I found tradition, so I probably tend to assume the best and not the worst of them.
I also get that I am a johnny-come-lately to tradition and the TLM. One of the things I learned from Stubborn and other posters is just how much older trads have gone through. There is a lot of anger, hurt, and betrayal and the Church is NOT changing things quickly.
I, too, get frustrated by the Vatican and the things that happen. I just try not to get angry or cynical about it.
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