Author Topic: Habitual Ritual Message for my fisheater freinds. (Read 31734 times)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #5 on:** September 28, 2012, 12:33:12 PM »

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even allowed to post defamatory things about the traditional faith without any repercussion whatsoever.

You can always tell whose side someone's on by the sort of invective that upsets them.

Whether it's those in charge of FE or those in charge of the SSPX, you can see very clearly how angry they are at criticisms directed against the conciliarists, the jews and the feminists, and how easily they accept harsh invective and very harsh treatment of believing traditionalists.

It's betrayal, and they know it.

MaterLaeta · « **Reply #6 on:** September 28, 2012, 01:26:43 PM »

Why do you guys have to bash FE?

Fisheaters isn't perfect and neither is this place. We are all flawed and sinful human beings that make mistakes.

If anyone had been as upset with me as people have been with KingofSpades on FE, I never would have learned anything about tradition, the TLM, etc. But I love to learn and read more & learn more everyday. I have found the richness of ANYTHING traditional to be astounding and can't believe how much we have lost and discarded.

BUT - I also know how many people were turned of by my abrasiveness and criticisms of the NO when I first found the TLM & tradition.

Lately, I have toned down the rhetoric and focused on showing people WHY I love the TLM & the beauty of the prayers in it. Guess what? I am getting better results.

My attitude when I first found the TLM has pretty much guaranteed my husband will never set foot in one.

Which result do you think I prefer?

No one is saying to compromise the message. Just begin where your audience is coming from and go from there. Be patient and move slowly. So much of traditional thinking and practice is SO VERY different from what comes out of the NO, it is a culture shock and HUGE adjustment. People need time to absorb it, think about it, and internalize it.

Chus Brea · « **Reply #7 on:** September 28, 2012, 01:41:35 PM »

Quote from: MaterLaeta

Why do you guys have to bash FE?

Fisheaters isn't perfect and neither is this place. We are all flawed and sinful human beings that make mistakes.

If anyone had been as upset with me as people have been with KingofSpades on FE, I never would have learned anything about tradition, the TLM, etc. But I love to learn and read more & learn more everyday. I have found the richness of ANYTHING traditional to be astounding and can't believe how much we have lost and discarded.

BUT - I also know how many people were turned of by my abrasiveness and criticisms of the NO when I first found the TLM & tradition.

Lately, I have toned down the rhetoric and focused on showing people WHY I love the TLM & the beauty of the prayers in it. Guess what? I am getting better results.

My attitude when I first found the TLM has pretty much guaranteed my husband will never set foot in one.

Which result do you think I prefer?

No one is saying to compromise the message. Just begin where your audience is coming from and go from there. Be patient and move slowly. So much of traditional thinking and practice is SO VERY different from what comes out of the NO, it is a culture shock and HUGE adjustment. People need time to absorb it, think about it, and internalize it.

You're largely missing the point. It is not just a question of reaching the audience. Modernism is advertised like never before... if you have any doubts just read Scriptorium's last posts on the "falsification of religion" thread, and you'll see how modernism has infiltrated the place to such extent that it is just insulting to the intelligence.

Stubborn · « **Reply #8 on:** September 28, 2012, 03:12:03 PM »

Quote from: Chus Brea

You're largely missing the point. It is not just a question of reaching the audience. Modernism is advertised like never before... if you have any doubts just read Scriptorium's last posts on the "falsification of religion" thread, and you'll see how modernism has infiltrated the place to such extent that it is just insulting to the intelligence.

Yes, agreed because FE is supposed to be, claims to be, or otherwise portrays itself as a traditional Catholic forum when in reality, with very few exceptions, it has not been one for quite some time.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #9 on:** September 28, 2012, 03:31:43 PM »

I guess FE could always shrug their shoulders and say "Hey, at least we're not Catholic Answers."