Author Topic: Habitual Ritual Message for my fisheater freinds. (Read 31730 times)

HabitualRitual · « **on:** September 27, 2012, 07:22:35 PM »

Guys....So I had some PMs from TraditionalistThomas and Starry Plough and I need some of you current fishies to pass on the sentiments below:

On top of the fact that I had taken my final bow from the Tank I have also been further banned now to the point where even lurking is no longer an option.I cannot access the forum at all to view posts.

So,just to say thanks for the sentiments.I undertand the frustrations but really debating the Neo-Trad NOers over there is a waste of time and energy.
You can't deal with folk who adhere to a postion but refuse to support it empiraclly and who ignore every relevant and disturbing point you bring to the various issues under discussion.Or worse,the disturbing issues are whitewashed in pharisaical thought and legalistic obfuscation.

It only recently dawned on me what poison floats about that place now.

Fisheaters is quicksand for the Tradionalist.The more you struggle the worse it seems to get.

I need to divert my time into more fruitful endeavors anyhow.

In some ways it is like leaving a freind behind and I shall miss many of the characters there but I have been memory holed and that is that.

Adios Muchachos!

Telesphorus · « **Reply #1 on:** September 27, 2012, 07:40:47 PM »

Does anyone else find the trajectory of fisheaters troubling?

How did fisheaters develop into one of the major trad forums?

It seems almost as though it is intentionally subversive. But is it really?

Or is it a reflection of the very sad state of traditionalism generally?

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #2 on:** September 28, 2012, 12:18:22 AM »

We have been infiltrated once again. If you ever have the chance read this book called AA-1025: memoirs of an anti apostle.

Many fishies are on this is a good website

and

http://defeatmodernism.com/

Stubborn · « **Reply #3 on:** September 28, 2012, 03:18:48 AM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Does anyone else find the trajectory of fisheaters troubling?

How did fisheaters develop into one of the major trad forums?

The trajectory has been headed down for probably the last 4, maybe 5 years, but 2 or 3 years ago there was a constant inflow of new NO posters who have now, pretty much taken the place over.

I've not even looked at that site for a month or so but one of the latest fishies was a NO priest, he mentioned he joined to find out more about tradition yet often criticized it while pushing his NO thinking - and the cheerleaders he immediately accuмulated signaled the beginning of the end for me there.

The mindset over there among 98% of the posters is that the NO and it's "mass" is not so bad, it's just inferior to the TLM.....that mindset of indifferentism is rampant and grows more day by day - so whoever posts about pretty much anything which is strictly Catholic is now part of a very, very small minority there.

Quote from: Telesphorus

It seems almost as though it is intentionally subversive. But is it really?

Or is it a reflection of the very sad state of traditionalism generally?

I think it's a sad reflection of what the NO has done to the Church. When I first joined them like 6 or 8 years ago, they would have never put up with 1/10th of the NO heretical postings from liberal neo's, but now, NO agendas that are posted in all forums are accepted and, for the sake of fellowship, sometimes even encouraged - it changed "with the times."

I remember when FE had a link attached to the word "modernism" every time that particular word was posted - not that that was worth much, but the effort to dissuade from posting anti-trad postings was at least noticeable - that effort has long since been completely and totally vanquished to the point where now, criticism of the NO is ok - if it's posted in the proper forum and not too vehement while a NO priest and his fellow NO adherents enjoy posting NO inspired error freely and throughout, even allowed to post defamatory things about the traditional faith without any repercussion whatsoever.

I've never posted on CAF, but understand that posters there are banned pretty much if they only seem trad - if FE did the opposite and banned all those who post pro NO, pro modernism, pro indifferentism etc, there would be very few posters there, that much is for sure.

guitarplucker · « **Reply #4 on:** September 28, 2012, 03:28:02 AM »

I love these threads about Fisheaters. I agree with Stevus that Matthew should create a special section just for ragging on that forum and exposing the errors over there.

I suspect a good number of people who find that forum are really looking for this forum, but are fooled by the anti-modern rhetoric and so stick around.