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Offline Twice dyed

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Re: Give me a break - literally
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2026, 11:16:23 AM »
To find a water leak, sometimes you can pound a steel rod thru the mulch...in the regular soil and , when the pressure is on, place an metal cup at the top of the rod, place your ear on the open end up, and you can hear the water shooting out. Use a glove to touch the cup or steel funnel.
Try a few places and you will zoom in on the location of the leak. The environment has to be very quiet. 

Our town foreperson uses this technique often, to find leaks. 
God bless+ 

Offline MaterDominici

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Re: Give me a break - literally
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2026, 11:37:47 AM »
Yeah, been there, done that. In my case, we finally found the leak. It was a 2" pipe about 8 feet underground, I had to rent a small excavator to find it. I would think yours would be maybe a foot or so underground - still might be worth it for you to consider for the price, especially if you have septic field problems - I had to fix one of those too.

 I do not like plumbing, any plumbing. 
8 feet! That would be maddening if you don't know where to look.

Ours is only about 12" deep, maybe less. Matthew's thoughts on the septic field are to check for blockage just past the tank, but he's put that project on hold until we resolve the water line issue.

We have expansive soil here, so when the weather pattern goes from drought to deluge and back to drought, the pipes are really put to the test. We had record amounts of rainfall in May/June and now we're back to hot and dry.

My dad worked in the water industry his whole career. I do think working with input lines is much more tolerable than what you typically picture when talking about plumbers. ;)


Offline Stubborn

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Re: Give me a break - literally
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2026, 12:05:49 PM »
8 feet! That would be maddening if you don't know where to look.

Ours is only about 12" deep, maybe less. Matthew's thoughts on the septic field are to check for blockage just past the tank, but he's put that project on hold until we resolve the water line issue.

We have expansive soil here, so when the weather pattern goes from drought to deluge and back to drought, the pipes are really put to the test. We had record amounts of rainfall in May/June and now we're back to hot and dry.

My dad worked in the water industry his whole career. I do think working with input lines is much more tolerable than what you typically picture when talking about plumbers. ;)
12" deep would have been a dream lol but unless you have some sort of record where the underground lines are, there's really no easy way to find them far as I know. If you know where one or both ends are, that can help, but usually that would make the whole thing way too easy.

If there is a blockage in the leach field, better tell Matthew to watch out when he looks for it - depending on how high the septic tank is in relation to the field and depending on how far from the septic tank the blockage is, the liquid in those pipes in the field might be under pressure - watch out so he doesn't get heavily squirted with septic if he happens to crack the line - hopefully it's real close.  


Re: Give me a break - literally
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2026, 01:37:08 PM »
While you're suffering on here with TGK, I've been suffering with a major water leak. I still haven't found the leak, much less fix it.

My family of 11 doesn't have water in the main house. No way to wash laundry on premises. Dishes are being done on a folding table on the back porch with a spray nozzle. Toilets are flushed by manually filling the toilet tank with a 5 gallon bucket (which we fill outside). Hands are washed with a jug of water over the sink.

After breaking a pipe with the tractor (trying to move hundreds of pounds of mulch, trying to find the actual broken pipe) we put a shutoff on that broken pipe, so at least we can turn the water back on to our "house part 2" or annex. We have a small 600 sq foot trailer as an annex to our family home, a 1 bedroom trailer that serves as an office, homeschooling, storage, and sewing room. At least we have a full bathroom and kitchen sink with running water, but not in the main home.

We have a mountain range of mulch, and somewhere under it all is a broken pipe. It's not a simple question of "just call the plumber, man, give it up. Time to call a professional" even if I had the money. Because plumbers charge a lot, and they don't even have tractors to move this kind of mulch. We're talking about a mountain range of 20-25 connected dump truck loads of mulch. (The mulch was dumped here for free, which we use in our extensive gardening and orchard)

By the time I move the mulch and dig around for the pipe, fixing the pipe (a.k.a., "The part a professional plumber can fix") will be the easy part. I've mended PVC pipe breaks before. I'm comfortable doing it. What's taking forever is finding the leak. Normally the grass gives it away. Not this time. We didn't even know where our main water line went until a couple days ago! But even now, we only have a vague idea about where it sits in our yard.

Here's the worst part -- we've had this leak for weeks, because OUR FAILED SEPTIC SYSTEM was masking the symptoms. Our leach field is dead -- there is no green grass over it at all as per normal. Next to the leach field (the other direction) we had tons of green. Since we never stopped using water in our household, I could only conclude that the water was oozing/running that direction, as in "the water has to go somewhere" if the leach field pipes are blocked, etc. which they probably are. Our leach field is about 31 years old.

I have NO IDEA where our household water waste was going this past 2-3 weeks. Since all the green was due to the leak, I guess the water that normally waters the leach field has just been disappearing into the Abyss (hell?) Sorry for being dense I guess, but I didn't know that was a thing.

It wasn't until I dug up around our septic tank a bunch, and pumped out the second (mostly water) chamber myself with a utility pump, that I realized what was happening (i.e., the water leak). So I was slowly working the problem, but I only had so much time each day to work on it.

Did I mention the temperatures these days are 105 (feels like 115) during the day? We're in a high pressure system/heat dome/drought period right now.

When we finally get this water pipe fixed, then I can go back to my (just as serious) problem with the septic system. I need to repair it, extend its life, etc. because just ordering a new one is out of the question. I don't have $25,000 for that right now. I'm still unemployed.
Maybe it would be a good idea to have another moderator on this forum? Have someone who is not so busy to moderate this forum as well? Just throwing out some ideas. If we had a more active mod, someone like Cabbage would've been dealt with way faster. 

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Give me a break - literally
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2026, 07:00:55 PM »
While you're suffering on here with TGK, I've been suffering with a major water leak. I still haven't found the leak, much less fix it.

I'm not so sure that TGK and your problems are entirely unrelated.

While I was initially skeptical at first, when you had this guy practicing the occult arts, praying for the deaths of +Thuc-line bishops, possibly being the same Fr. Hoopes who not only promoted the use of "white magic", but also made various potions and concoctions that were designed to ward off the devil (and were therefore very likely to have the exact opposite effect) ... as if we need more than true blessed Sacramentals, holy water, etc. ... AND, to top it all off, while some of us made a joke of it, that Cabbage had been up in Spokane with gas cans when the fires got to within a mile or two of Mount St Michael, what are the actual odds of that happening just as Cabbage's contempt for the CMRI had reached a fever pitch?  While it may not have been gasoline, what's to prevent a guy who was praying for the deaths of CMRI priests from invoking that "white magic" he considered licit to work toward the very same goal?

We also had that strange incident of the fire at the Pfeiffer compound ... which immediately made me wonder what Pablo had had to do with it.

On a more practical note, I agree with those who suggest getting in front of the leak and creating an alternate route for water.

I do actually believe that the fat lady is warming up in earnest now for the US economy, so this might be a rehearsal for you and your family to get ready.  We occasionally get power outages here and are usually caught off guard, with batteries and such not having been kept charged, etc.