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Offline de Lugo

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Gabb Wireless Safe for Kids (and Adults)?
« on: October 18, 2022, 10:25:59 AM »
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  • Apparently there is a cell phone which does not include internet access, social media, or app store.

    https://gabbwireless.com/product/gabb-phone-plus

    In theory, this means no porn, video games, or internet access to bad and/or time wasting material.

    The phone does have a camera and permits texting (but links are blocked and there's no internet access by any means anyway).

    The benefit is that you can still track your kids with GPS, and contact them when needed.

    The phone does not use whitelisting, unfortunately (i.e., whitelisting means only preapproved numbers could call or text), but you can block unknown or unwanted phone numbers (although a kid could also unblock them).  So in theory, it seems that another person could text your child inappropriate material (e.g., a pic?).  But if your child isn't allowed to give their number out, then that isn't a risk (except by spambots randomly sending vulgar material to random phone numbers?  But they say spam filters are supposed to stop that).

    And apparently, there is a log available to parents showing who and when a text or call was made/received, but it does not show the content (so the safest rule would be to keep the kids from being able to give their number out).

    https://support.gabbwireless.com/hc/en-us/articles/9253652485399-Can-I-track-and-monitor-my-child-s-text-messages-Usage-logs

    So in short, the only risks on this phone appear to be what could be texted to them by other kids (which could include pics, apparently, but nothing on the internet).

    What do you think?

    PS: I did notice a couple apps come standard that would be objectionable (a music app, and a "spirituality" app), and I do not know if these can be deleted or disabled.
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    Re: Gabb Wireless Safe for Kids (and Adults)?
    « Reply #1 on: October 18, 2022, 11:37:03 AM »
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  • Looks like there is also a Gabb Watch, which only allows contact between preapproved phone numbers.

    Apparently this watch acts like a phone, but has no internet access, no camera, and can only send/receive texts between the preapproved numbers:

    "Set up to 25 custom contacts in your kid’s Gabb Watch 2 to ensure safe, exclusive communication. They can send and receive calls and voice texts from their contacts, without worrying about spam calls or junk mail from strangers."

    "The lock mode feature helps ensure Gabb Watch 2 is a tool that helps, not distracts. Through the MyGabb app on your parent phone, you have unlimited access and complete control over how and when your kid uses their watch. When locked, Gabb Watch 2 will only enable calls to and from their emergency contact."

    See the FAQ's here: https://gabbwireless.com/product/gabb-watch-2/#gabb-watch-news
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    Re: Gabb Wireless Safe for Kids (and Adults)?
    « Reply #2 on: October 18, 2022, 12:48:39 PM »
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  • Personally I would be most comfortable getting either a dumb phone. I suppose the phone mentioned may be comparable to other very basic internet-connected ones available, which offer only the most basic necessary apps and no true internet access. The smart watch phenomenon in any form is intrusive and unnecessary in my opinion.

    If parents can monitor their children and control their activity, can the company? What about the State or (((Security Services)))?
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    Re: Gabb Wireless Safe for Kids (and Adults)?
    « Reply #3 on: October 18, 2022, 01:22:17 PM »
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  • Seems a bit expensive for something that doesn't have data.  Alternatively, some apps that use data, like Maps (which I don't see there), might be useful for a child to have (in case they get lost).  I have this app I make my kids install, Life360, that can track their whereabouts in case you need to find them or they break down in their cars, etc.

    What I've done is to use a router called Gryphon that has a high degree of parental controls.  And you can install an accompanying app (Homebound) on phones that can't be removed that'll route all internet traffic through the Gryphon system even if they're not connected to your router.  So you can pretty much turn off all web access unless it's on an approved (white) list.  So that's what I ended up doing.

    Maps, Life 360, and other apps that require data can be useful, but you can still block the web surfing, and you an also lock the phone so that they can't install or uninstall apps without a parental password or PIN.

    So, I use this ...
    https://gryphonconnect.com/

    You have to get a router, and then you add the Homebound App.
    https://gryphonconnect.com/homebound/

    So, to block everything except what's whitelisted, you put the Phone into "Toddler" permissions category (which gives them no access) and then you can whitelist specific sites you may want to allow them to see.

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    Re: Gabb Wireless Safe for Kids (and Adults)?
    « Reply #4 on: October 18, 2022, 04:18:34 PM »
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  • I have a Lively (used to be called Jitterbug) phone, cheapest, original, ‘90s-‘00s technology, non-internet model that has voice, voice mail, old-style text, phone book, archive, a mag-lite.  Unlimited calls/texts costs me $12.50 per month.  The phone itself was $10.00 on sale with an AARP coupon.  It has large-print everything. 
    It’s “chill factor” is exactly zero, but in a recent four day bout of intermittent power and internet outages, (due to underground cable cut), it worked perfectly fine when all the iPhones and smartphones were down.
    P.S.  I am an adult who just doesn’t want the constant distraction of texts, calls, feeling that every beep, bell, vibration needs immediate response.  I also do not want to be overwhelmed with spam, advertising on email, and I don’t use social media.  It can take grainy photos, but the send option doesn’t work to anything via internet.
    Sorry, Matthew, but no CathInfo on it, either.  I use internet at the times of my choice on my tablet without having to sacrifice the ability to summon help in an emergency or have a chat with a friend.  It gets pretty good reception, working in remote places where WiFi does not.