Author Topic: FE Might Close - Or Jayne Might Become a Moderator There (Read 59729 times)

RosaleeMarie · « **Reply #315 on:** October 14, 2013, 06:51:22 PM »

Quote from: St Magnus

This just in: Professed heretic lectures Catholics on schism.

http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3461408.0.html

He states he will ignore Church teaching and marry another man, then posts that. If FE had a Roman Catholic at the helm, that kind of crap wouldn't fly.

Money trumps truth in the halls of FE.

That is truly horrifying.

Ursus · « **Reply #316 on:** October 14, 2013, 07:45:43 PM »

Quote from: St Magnus

This just in: Professed heretic lectures Catholics on schism.

http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3461408.0.html

He states he will ignore Church teaching and marry another man, then posts that. If FE had a Roman Catholic at the helm, that kind of crap wouldn't fly.

Money trumps truth in the halls of FE.

Was the whole transgender issue made "acceptable" because money was exchanged to keep the site from going under?

St Magnus · « **Reply #317 on:** October 14, 2013, 08:49:53 PM »

Quote from: Ursus

Quote from: St Magnus
This just in: Professed heretic lectures Catholics on schism.

http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3461408.0.html

He states he will ignore Church teaching and marry another man, then posts that. If FE had a Roman Catholic at the helm, that kind of crap wouldn't fly.

Money trumps truth in the halls of FE.

Was the whole transgender issue made "acceptable" because money was exchanged to keep the site from going under?

It just seems that those who donate are given free reign. They can post whatever/however they like.

icterus · « **Reply #318 on:** October 14, 2013, 09:09:27 PM »

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It just seems that those who donate are given free reign. They can post whatever/however they like.

One of the (many) things that turned me off to Protestantism was the fact that congregations often hired and fired pastors....meaning that pastors had to preach acceptable theology or else lose their jobs. Looks like Vox has re-invented the Protestant system...

2Vermont · « **Reply #319 on:** October 15, 2013, 04:30:03 AM »

Quote from: St Magnus

Quote from: Ursus
Quote from: St Magnus
This just in: Professed heretic lectures Catholics on schism.

http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3461408.0.html

He states he will ignore Church teaching and marry another man, then posts that. If FE had a Roman Catholic at the helm, that kind of crap wouldn't fly.

Money trumps truth in the halls of FE.

Was the whole transgender issue made "acceptable" because money was exchanged to keep the site from going under?

It just seems that those who donate are given free reign. They can post whatever/however they like.

Not true. I stupidly donated. And I was banned. Of course I was only a blue fishy. You would think that having been a contributor though that I would have at least been contacted prior to getting thrown out. Or at least given another chance. Got to love the preaching, but not the practicing of charity.....lol.

I stopped my paypal payment as soon as I was banned, but I just saw on my recent statement that I still had a Sept 2nd payment. That had better be the last payment before my ban or I'll be contacting Paypal.

Solidus · « **Reply #320 on:** October 15, 2013, 12:10:46 PM »

This isn't surprising. The Fag Mafia operates this way. Sodomites tend to be very wealthy and usually have the money to make or break an organization that operates on public donations.

This is a text book example of how organizations get corrupted by the Fag Mafia. Vox wasn't getting enough money because many of her donors left after Tranny-gate, and who comes into the rescue? The man who started this financial exodus in the first place. The man who also happens to be lawyer with enough money to mutilate his genitals and then post pictures of the hack job on pornographic websites.

It's amazing to see how liberal/progressive the place has become in just a short time span. It seems like anyone with an ounce of traditionalism is banned. It's like CAF, except the "hardliners" are mickey mouse Catholics (FSSP, etc.).

It seems after Papst Ratzinger abdicated the throne the pseudo-trads (I'm speaking of those "in union" with Vatican II) have lost their minds. They're in complete symbiosis with ~~Pope Obama~~ Bishop of Rome Jorge. Genital mutilation and sodomy? Who am I to judge? As the Poles say, "Jaki pan taki kram".

wallflower · « **Reply #321 on:** October 15, 2013, 01:12:04 PM »

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I hate to break up the party but Jayne isn't standing up for any more Church teaching than before. She still calls Impy Clare and believes they are correct but simply doesn't think those who are confused and oversensitive to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activists, fearing persecution (that's us) will learn anything through mockery. We have to be taught charitably. That's very nice of her to have sympathy for us poor fearful simpletons but it has nothing to do with her standing up for Church teaching on the issue.

Five thumbs up makes it a bit awkward for me to correct myself. Saying Jayne believes "they are correct" was a bit too simplistic to be fair to her. She disagrees with sex changes, the coming out thread and its handling. She calls Impy Clare as a part of picking battles so that he can be exhorted to chastity at least. Obviously I disagree with this tactic since there is sin in taking on another sex in itself, whether one is chaste or not, but I do not want to misrepresent Jayne's position since she does seem to be sincere in trying to find the best way to handle it. Hence I don't mind correcting myself to be a bit more specific.

Meg · « **Reply #322 on:** October 15, 2013, 01:48:42 PM »

Quote from: mikemac

The owner of the said forum was on the last ten minutes of this 'Forward Boldly' radio show, starting at about 47:30 minutes into the broadcast.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/forwardboldly/2013/10/13/forward-boldly-msgr-richard-soseman-and-kim-ketola

Um ... what can I say. Um ... holy cow.

Meanwhile even though the NCR article in question is titled "Vatican says 'sex-change' operation does not change person's gender" and even though the man that had the sex change operation had finally told the truth about his priest telling him that he should not identify himself as a woman or request to be identified as a woman, the owner of said forum still insists on treating him like a woman and refers to him by the feminine name that he chose to identify himself with at the said forum.

And meanwhile last March the owner of the said forum along with some of the members of the said forum put this same man up on a pedestal and encouraged him with his same sex attraction identity when he came out as a person with same sex attraction.

And meanwhile last May the owner of the said forum along with some of the members of the said forum again encouraged this same man when he came out as a transgender person in a thread that he started titled "I'm. Coming. Out." and said that he had a sex change operation. And the owner of the said forum changed this same man's forum member name from a masculine name to the feminine name that he chose and still allows it.

We all know that there is a lot more to this story but the owner of the said forum still does not get it, still identifies him as a her even though his priest told him not to identify as a woman and the forum owner still calls her forum a traditional Catholic forum.

It would seem that Vox is trying to promote her views on sex-change and transsɛҳuąƖs in some of the Catholic media outlets (Novus Ordo type outlets). Now she is trying to arrange to interview Michael Voris, who seems to be starting to lean more toward tradition all the time, and though I doubt that he will ever criticize the Pope, he does make some good observations about the Crisis in the Church. I don't know if she's going to promote her cause of supporting transsɛҳuąƖs or not with Mr. Voris. I hope not.

RosaleeMarie · « **Reply #323 on:** October 15, 2013, 04:15:20 PM »

Quote from: Meg

Quote from: mikemac
The owner of the said forum was on the last ten minutes of this 'Forward Boldly' radio show, starting at about 47:30 minutes into the broadcast.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/forwardboldly/2013/10/13/forward-boldly-msgr-richard-soseman-and-kim-ketola

Um ... what can I say. Um ... holy cow.

Meanwhile even though the NCR article in question is titled "Vatican says 'sex-change' operation does not change person's gender" and even though the man that had the sex change operation had finally told the truth about his priest telling him that he should not identify himself as a woman or request to be identified as a woman, the owner of said forum still insists on treating him like a woman and refers to him by the feminine name that he chose to identify himself with at the said forum.

And meanwhile last March the owner of the said forum along with some of the members of the said forum put this same man up on a pedestal and encouraged him with his same sex attraction identity when he came out as a person with same sex attraction.

And meanwhile last May the owner of the said forum along with some of the members of the said forum again encouraged this same man when he came out as a transgender person in a thread that he started titled "I'm. Coming. Out." and said that he had a sex change operation. And the owner of the said forum changed this same man's forum member name from a masculine name to the feminine name that he chose and still allows it.

We all know that there is a lot more to this story but the owner of the said forum still does not get it, still identifies him as a her even though his priest told him not to identify as a woman and the forum owner still calls her forum a traditional Catholic forum.

It would seem that Vox is trying to promote her views on sex-change and transsɛҳuąƖs in some of the Catholic media outlets (Novus Ordo type outlets). Now she is trying to arrange to interview Michael Voris, who seems to be starting to lean more toward tradition all the time, and though I doubt that he will ever criticize the Pope, he does make some good observations about the Crisis in the Church. I don't know if she's going to promote her cause of supporting transsɛҳuąƖs or not with Mr. Voris. I hope not.

I don't know that she would get very far with that if she tried.

Devekut · « **Reply #324 on:** October 15, 2013, 04:27:18 PM »

Haha well, I already contacted Mr. Voris in regards to all of this when she setup that challenge to all priests. So, he should be aware of this by now or will soon be, as his inbox is probably flooded.

Meg · « **Reply #325 on:** October 15, 2013, 04:36:13 PM »

Quote from: Devekut

Haha well, I already contacted Mr. Voris in regards to all of this when she setup that challenge to all priests. So, he should be aware of this by now or will soon be, as his inbox is probably flooded.

Do you have a direct email for Michael Voris? I've been emailing the Church Militant TV site, and the emails go through one of his employees. I've requested that he be able to view the info I sent, but have not received any feedback that he's seen my concerns. And his spokesperson seems to have to have been taken in by Vox's view of the situation. Unfortunately.

icterus · « **Reply #326 on:** October 20, 2013, 10:06:51 PM »

Since the transsɛҳuąƖism issue is still ongoing at FE, I thought it was worth posting a question that I hadn't seen posed before.

Concerning the stance that FE has taken on transsɛҳuąƖs and sex-change surgery...

Do you think Vox understands that sex-change surgery does not produce a *functional* individual?

Reading her posts about the subject, I get the distinct feeling that she is imagining a human with a penis and testicles who (with sub secretum Vatican permission) has the penis and testicles removed and somehow is given a functional uterus and ovaries via surgery...resulting in a functional female who is now eligible for marriage to a male.

Or, vice versa, a person who has ovaries and uterus and vagina removed and is given a working penis and testicles that result in a functional male capable of inseminating a female.

This, of course, does not exist on Earth. All that exists are cosmetic surgeries that produce external visual facsimiles - non functional ones. People who undergo these procedures will never be eligible for a Catholic marriage again. No longer able to in fact consummate a marriage, if they were ever able, they are now in a canonical limbo, unable to marry...and so what was the point?

Devekut · « **Reply #327 on:** October 21, 2013, 08:07:04 PM »

Meg,
I don't have his direct contact. It's a shame that even Voris has liberals in his organization. I wonder if he knows.

Ursus · « **Reply #328 on:** October 21, 2013, 09:10:36 PM »

Quote from: icterus

Since the transsɛҳuąƖism issue is still ongoing at FE, I thought it was worth posting a question that I hadn't seen posed before.

Concerning the stance that FE has taken on transsɛҳuąƖs and sex-change surgery...

Do you think Vox understands that sex-change surgery does not produce a *functional* individual?

At this point who cares. Bottom line the tranny who started all that is almost running the place. Commenting, dishing out Catholic "teachings."

Any mention of transgender that's not supportive gets you banned. Devil works his deeds.

How many traditional or people leaning towards that will end up in sin? What a mess.

It should shut down. That was the all the talk last month.

Meg · « **Reply #329 on:** October 22, 2013, 11:32:38 AM »

Quote from: Devekut

Meg,
I don't have his direct contact. It's a shame that even Voris has liberals in his organization. I wonder if he knows.

I got the impression that Voris' employee - who answers the emails - is quite young, and doesn't understand tradition very well. He said that he'd discussed the issue of transgenderism with Vox for several hours on the phone. Sheesh! It may be the case, too, where Vox was very persuasive - even some trads are fooled into thinking that her views on transgenderism can be reconciled with tradition.

I did, however, send the links to Vox's site where she proclaims that she loves drag queens, and which also shows her interest in studying medieval astrology, and using tarot and the I ching. Voris' employee said that he would ask her about this, since he was concerned about it. I haven't heard back since then. I think that Voris is astute enough to know a fake trad when he sees one - but his employee - not so much.