Quote from: Mithrandylan

SD is run by a liberal Novus Ordite and most of it's users don't reject the NO or VII wholesale.  

I did a poll this week, and it seems that all of the participants do not like the Novus Ordo Mass.  According to the poll, the majority clearly regard the Tridentine Latin Mass as superior.  

http://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=3717.0

I read the first page of replies - had to check to see if I was on FE or SD, may as well have been FE. Sameo sameo.

Good assessment, St. Magnus, to which I would just add this: Vox mentioned on that thread that the Church is a hospital for sinners. Which is true, I think. But her description of what is meant by this seems to be that, for example, if an obviously very ill person ventures into or near the hospital but refuses to believe that he or she ill and also refuses treatment, that it's perfectly alright and acceptable for that person to stay in the hospital and harass others who try to rightly point out that that person suffers from a serious illness. What is the point of even going to the hospital if one refuses treatment because they don't believe that they are ill? But those on FE who rightly point out that sin is still sin, and that Our Lord told sinners to go and sin no more, are criticized on FE.

What's the point in even being a trad if sin is perfectly acceptable even to the point of being a protected right for a Catholic be able to engage in? That's where the scandal comes in, IMO.

I probably haven't explained it very well, but hopefully others here will get the gist of what I'm saying.

Can they even change their sex back?

(I recognize that this may be a really stupid question)

I don't think sex change operations are reversible, but I am not sure. If you have doctors cut off your penis, how can you get it back later when you change your mind?

Good assessment, St. Magnus, to which I would just add this: Vox mentioned on that thread that the Church is a hospital for sinners. Which is true, I think. But her description of what is meant by this seems to be that, for example, if an obviously very ill person ventures into or near the hospital but refuses to believe that he or she ill and also refuses treatment, that it's perfectly alright and acceptable for that person to stay in the hospital and harass others who try to rightly point out that that person suffers from a serious illness. What is the point of even going to the hospital if one refuses treatment because they don't believe that they are ill? But those on FE who rightly point out that sin is still sin, and that Our Lord told sinners to go and sin no more, are criticized on FE.

What's the point in even being a trad if sin is perfectly acceptable even to the point of being a protected right for a Catholic be able to engage in? That's where the scandal comes in, IMO.

I probably haven't explained it very well, but hopefully others here will get the gist of what I'm saying.

You explained it fine.

Vox thinks she is being charitable and doing the right thing obviously, but she just isn't seeing the obvious harm done to the forum.

I continue to pray for her and also pray she shuts it down.

 As Mith said "That place is a living, breathing scandal. It only reinforces the modernist tendencies and neo-Catholic sentiments that exist among so many self described 'traditional' Catholics. "

Quote from: Meg

Good assessment, St. Magnus, to which I would just add this: Vox mentioned on that thread that the Church is a hospital for sinners. Which is true, I think.

I also read Pope Francis comparing the Church to a field hospital after a battle.

I think this is a gross misrepresentation.  

The Church ought to be an army.  A batallion.  A force of God on Earth.  Church Militant.

A field hospital?  It's as if the Church is defeated already.  

I see what you're saying. Maybe it's both a hospital and batallion, though I know that sounds lame. It seems to me that we have to continually look at ourselves and admit our weakness and sin before God, if we are to do His will rather than our own, and to stand up for the Church.

On FE, the motto seems to be...."hey, we all sin, so what's the big deal?" To which I would say that sin is something that we should help each other overcome, rather than condone engagement in. I don't understand why Vox doesn't get that.

Are you telling us that they're OK with that possessed SOB using your photo for his profile without your permission?

The reason behind it is, according to the transgendered Attorney (impy/clare/guac) is that. he was teaching me a lesson. He put my face on his account so that I can picture myself in his shoes. I don't believe that for one second. Total BS but they are all ok with it. Actually, the majority are disgusted but the prominent figures are ok with it.

Sounds like vengeance to me...and it seems that is against the forum rules as well.

But he won't get banned.

By the way MorganHiver, welcome!  Now if I can just get St Pius of Trent (and others) to come over here.

Quote from: LaramieHirsch

Quote from: Mithrandylan

SD is run by a liberal Novus Ordite and most of it's users don't reject the NO or VII wholesale.  

I did a poll this week, and it seems that all of the participants do not like the Novus Ordo Mass.  According to the poll, the majority clearly regard the Tridentine Latin Mass as superior.  

http://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=3717.0

I read the first page of replies - had to check to see if I was on FE or SD, may as well have been FE. Sameo sameo.

Quite.  Laramie, traditional Catholics don't just 'not like' the Novus Ordo.  You're asking the wrong questions.  Before the prima dona crew over at SD gave me the boot and then lied about why I was banned, I started a thread "would you attend the NO" and then another thread I was involved in was "is the NO Catholic?"  Both threads: locked.  Things got too 'personal.'  

Anyways, it's irrelevant whether or not people 'like' the NO.  Catholics aren't at liberty to like or dislike CATHOLIC liturgies.  The question you should be asking is 'is the NO Catholic?'  Every person that replies to your thread and says some half-baked nonesense about the NO being extrinsically inferior and intrinsically identical is not earning SD 'trad brownie points,' it's merely re-inforcing the well-earned opinion of that place being an FE re-wind.

I was reprimanded for using the term 'neo-sspx' over there.  Because the 'official' stance of the forum is SSPX, even though NONE of the moderators regularly attend even neo-sspx chapels.  There's a sede, some indulters and only one of the moderators said he will never attend the NO.  I could go on, but we've been over all this before.