Good for Jayne for complaining about that post, which was much needed. Notice that Vox didn't pay any attention to the concerns that Jayne raised on the issue, which is typical. Perhaps Jayne will now realize that there's something wrong there. And we should keep praying for Vox.

Yeah I thought that was good of Jayne too.  Last night she posted this in the same thread.

"As I said in the OP, I think that a major obstacle in getting the charity part of the Church teaching on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, is that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activists are trying to destroy the Church.  These people to whom we are being told to show charity are our persecutors."

I can't believe how far gone Vox is. She really tried to guilt Jayne into thinking Gimpy's joke was light hearted and non offensive to Catholics. Christulsa is still a wolf in SSPX skins. Fisheaters is soon to become a lesbian hangout with its name taking on a different meaning

Thumbs up for the last sentence alone.

I can't believe how far gone Vox is. She really tried to guilt Jayne into thinking Gimpy's joke was light hearted and non offensive to Catholics. Christulsa is still a wolf in SSPX skins. Fisheaters is soon to become a lesbian hangout with its name taking on a different meaning

I find it hard to believe this "chris" person is a SSPX chapel goer.

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I think it's interesting that guac/impy/Brigid Clare, was concerned she might get banned.

I highly doubt that will ever happen.

I think that guac/impy/clare wasn't really concerned about being banned - that was just part of the joke. I'm not surprised that Impy wrote something like that. What causes concern is that Vox said that she begged him to post it on the forum, after he sent it to Vox in a private email.

What also is cause for concern is an article on FE, posted by Vox yesterday, titled, "Men, women, love, respect, and romance." It contains sɛҳuąƖly explicit language, and I can't see that there's any good reason for posting something like that. It's disgusting.

That's why prayers for her are much-needed. When someone's mind is in the gutter, they need help to get out of it.

Exactly Meg. You see it as it truly is.

The thread that started it all....
http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php?topic=3458857.200

The op is a video of a song I'm Coming Out. First reply charitably reminds impy of Catholic teaching.

Impy's reply reveals the undeniable purpose of the thread. Read carefully. It is a troll post, blatant and intentional.
"Thanks, Dan, but I'm heterosɛҳuąƖ!  I'm exclusively attracted to men." This is a man saying this.

Then a few posts down, Impy states this....
"The Vatican also instructed that those who have undergone the procedure may not marry, be ordained or enter religious life.

I nevertheless intend to continue to date men, and hopefully someday marry a good man."

Now, here is a man who has threw this in the faces of the membership of what was once a trad forum, and follows by stating he intends to reject Church teaching.

vox's reply ?

"Wow, she did it. Gutsy, Impy! Very, very gutsy, especially at a place like this!"

There is is. Vox condones it, glorifies it, and reveals she knew beforehand Impy was going to do it !

I couldn't read any further. No need to.

Regarding Impy saying on that thread that he's a heterosɛҳuąƖ, well, a year earlier he stated on one of the 'Catholics and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity' threads that he suffers from SSA (same sex attraction). So which is it? Did he decide at some point that he's really a woman trapped in a man's body? It's just another example of the rampant contradiction that is the Fisheaters forum. Which Vox is just fine with.

Also, I think that Pope Pius X' Pascendi said something about being aware that there are those modernists who will try to use science and 'feelings" in order to introduce novelty.

No matter how many times she states that she believes in Church teaching on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, this cannot be true, given everything she's posted there. Still, we must be concerned with her immortal soul, and Impy's, and everyone who will be badly influenced by that forum. I offered this morning's Mass for the intention that Vox not any more be attracted to things of an impure nature. Many people, even Catholics of course, have this problem, but it can be overcome with help from Our Lord and Our Lady. No one is beyond help.

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Regarding Impy saying on that thread that he's a heterosɛҳuąƖ, well, a year earlier he stated on one of the 'Catholics and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity' threads that he suffers from SSA (same sex attraction). So which is it? Did he decide at some point that he's really a woman trapped in a man's body? It's just another example of the rampant contradiction that is the Fisheaters forum. Which Vox is just fine with.

This is the meat of it.  Vox's reading of the situation is so simple-minded that many, you and me included, interpret it as dishonesty.  

Everyone, Vox included, knows Impy changes the story on a regular basis, and even if perhaps by some great pain-inducing stretch of the imagination ONE version of it could be reconciled with some Church teaching, the other concurrent versions cannot.  Plain conclusion - lying troll.  

Trad hating lying troll.  He even boasts about being a heretic on one thread.

I hate to break up the party but Jayne isn't standing up for any more Church teaching than before. She still calls Impy Clare and believes they are correct but simply doesn't think those who are confused and oversensitive to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activists, fearing persecution (that's us) will learn anything through mockery. We have to be taught charitably. That's very nice of her to have sympathy for us poor fearful simpletons but it has nothing to do with her standing up for Church teaching on the issue.

As for the joke itself it's further proof of how desensitized we are to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. I wonder what would happen if someone started making sarcastic jokes about abortion. They'd offend everyone's senses pretty quickly. Add insult to injury and tell those not laughing that they're just sticks in the mud, God has a sense of humor. They wouldn't last long at all. Yet ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is in the same category and few bat an eye. I bet God's Ape has a sense of humor too. Everyone has a sense of humor, what they find funny reveals just how innocent or perverse they are (and all the shades in between).

Wallflower has a history of wonderful posts, and I'm so glad she posts here. All I have to add to her testimony is a quite old but ever-true quote from Pope St. Peter:

Quote from: Pope St. Peter

For the time past is sufficient to have fulfilled the will of the Gentiles, for them who have walked in riotousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and unlawful worshipping of idols.

Wherein they think it strange, that you run not with them into the same confusion of riotousness, speaking evil of you.

Who shall render account to him, who is ready to judge the living and the dead.

For, for this cause was the gospel preached also to the dead: that they might be judged indeed according to men, in the flesh; but may live according to God, in the Spirit.

But the end of all is at hand. Be prudent therefore, and watch in prayers.

Prudence brought us to CI, where we may resist in peace and not be constantly subject to things that have already been long decided. Which reminds me, I also like what Our Lord said during His Passion:

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It is finished

 :applause:

This just in: Professed heretic lectures Catholics on schism.

http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3461408.0.html

He states he will ignore Church teaching and marry another man, then posts that. If FE had a Roman Catholic at the helm, that kind of crap wouldn't fly.

Money trumps truth in the halls of FE.

This is "rich" indeed.