Author Topic: Contacting the Moderator here (Read 17756 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #75 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:00:12 PM »

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Nado and Ambrose were both accused of being women. That went way too far, no one said anything!

Nonsense. In the case of Nado, the confusion originates with a post in which Matthew himself addresses Nado as "he or she". After several posts in which people directly asked Nado whether he or she and Nado didn't respond directly, people made inferences from something in a post.

In the case of Ambrose, one poster uncovered a facebook account of a woman who called herself "Ambrose" and then had all the same positions as our CI Ambrose. When Matthew clarified that this was not true, Matthew threatened to ban anyone who continued to state or even imply that Ambrose was a woman. So it's just your imagination that "no one said anything."

You're digging deep, Mabel, because you can't stand the theological position taken by the "Feeneyites". That's true of many of you here on this thread.

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU called out "SJB" for constantly calling people idiots, and the insults coming from Don Paolo that made anything I've written look tame in comparison (he must have had a thesaurus in front of him opened to the term idiot or moron). You're very selective in who you criticize for "lack of charity" .

Basically your sanctimonious garment-rending about "lack of charity" seems reserved entirely to the "Feeneyites". In response to the insults made by the Cushingites AGAINST the "Feeneyites", you were astonishingly silent.

Instead, in response to these insults, you did nothing but roll out the

:applause: :rahrah:

smilies.

So please stop the sanctimious preaching about charity already, would you? So try to carry on without the "Captain Your Captain" Nado in charge of the fight.

Stubborn · « **Reply #76 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:01:45 PM »

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And where is Emerentiana? Mabel, I think you should add her to your "another anti-Feeneyite bites the dust" list.

The list just gets longer and longer.

I also remember how MyrnaM was insulted by Ladislaus. Wish I could remember which thread, or threads.

Perhaps Matthew doesn't realise that those who complain only do so when they have ABSOLUTELY had enough. And many don't complain at all. They simply disappear from Cathinfo.

Well that's different now that maybe Matthew doesn't realize it. Have you tried calling the complaint department at 1-800-waa-waaa to lodge your complaint?

2Vermont · « **Reply #77 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:03:09 PM »

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And where is Emerentiana? Mabel, I think you should add her to your "another anti-Feeneyite bites the dust" list.

So why would you want to keep posting here since CI is so full of injustices?

FYI, if it really mattered, which it doesn't, but if it did matter, whoever wants to waste their time can go back and find 100s of posts from the sede's with their list of ad hominems thrown about like rocks - and YOU'VE thrown your share of rocks and are just as guilty as the rest of us. Get over it.

Why not just do what Matthew said to do if you're going to post in the Crisis forum? "The elderly aren't exempt from the rule that if you want to argue Sedevacantism or Feeneyism, you need to bring your thick skin and a good shield." It's his forum, if you don't like it, start your own and see how you like it when posters knock the way you run it or tell you how they think it should be run.

It's interesting how supportive the Feeneyites are of this forum and how it's run. Probably because they know this forum is the only game in town for them.

I'm getting a lot off my chest my dear Stubborn. Trust me, I won't be posting here all that much anymore once I finish doing so.

Stubborn · « **Reply #78 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:06:55 PM »

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And where is Emerentiana? Mabel, I think you should add her to your "another anti-Feeneyite bites the dust" list.

So why would you want to keep posting here since CI is so full of injustices?

FYI, if it really mattered, which it doesn't, but if it did matter, whoever wants to waste their time can go back and find 100s of posts from the sede's with their list of ad hominems thrown about like rocks - and YOU'VE thrown your share of rocks and are just as guilty as the rest of us. Get over it.

Why not just do what Matthew said to do if you're going to post in the Crisis forum? "The elderly aren't exempt from the rule that if you want to argue Sedevacantism or Feeneyism, you need to bring your thick skin and a good shield." It's his forum, if you don't like it, start your own and see how you like it when posters knock the way you run it or tell you how they think it should be run.

It's interesting how supportive the Feeneyites are of this forum and how it's run. Probably because they know this forum is the only game in town for them.

I'm getting a lot off my chest my dear Stubborn. Trust me, I won't be posting here all that much anymore once I finish doing so.

Well, that's a shame. I'm very sorry to be the cause of your departure when you leave.

Matthew · « **Reply #79 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:10:41 PM »

Quote from: Mabel

It wasn't just Myrna. Nado and Ambrose were both accused of being women. That went way too far, no one said anything! Speaking of which, what happened to Hobbledehoy, Lover of Truth (yes, I know he was a bit annoying but he is not a bad man), SJB, Michael93, sunbeam, Luker, Mithrandylan, Thomistic Philosopher and so on, even Charlemagne and TKGS have barely posted. Maybe they are all busy but look what they have in common...

Well, that's quite a barrage there.

Suffice to say you can't just rattle off one or two dozen names, and suggest that they left because of the cause you're defending. Anyone could do that! After all, people who don't post anymore aren't here to correct you, are they?

Hobbledehoy left for personal reasons. He was a huge fan of CathInfo and as far as I know, still is. I can't remember his exact reason for leaving, but he PM'd me and there's a good chance his reason wasn't for public consumption.

I was around when Ambrose was accused of being a woman, and I came down HARD on the offenders. So much for "no one said anything!"

Nado has been banned recently, so that's why he's not here anymore. As a sort of vindication for my "choosing" to ban him (over, say, Ladislaus) he had way more critics than fans. His rep score was 0. A person can skirt the rules, play games, etc. but when they tick everyone off, or play the troll, the rep score is the one thing that can't be "gamed" in such a case. That's what it's there for -- one more piece of data to help me moderate this forum.

Mithrandylan is active on AT LEAST one other forum, namely his own!

I have no idea about the other guys -- I try to have the attitude that a good SSPX priest would have (in the old days, I mean) to his congregation: they come, they go, and you can't control them. Who's to say what they can and can't do -- they are free. To try to control them would be A) futile and B) fascist/communist/bullying.

Sure I wish everyone good would stick around and be one big happy family (and everyone bad or annoying would go away), but unfortunately in this fallen world I don't get that option.

In other words: No, there will be no Utopia on the Internet either. Utopia is a hopeless goal on this earth IRL -- why should seeking an online Utopia be any less unrealistic?

Cantarella · « **Reply #80 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:12:19 PM »

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And where is Emerentiana? Mabel, I think you should add her to your "another anti-Feeneyite bites the dust" list.

So why would you want to keep posting here since CI is so full of injustices?

FYI, if it really mattered, which it doesn't, but if it did matter, whoever wants to waste their time can go back and find 100s of posts from the sede's with their list of ad hominems thrown about like rocks - and YOU'VE thrown your share of rocks and are just as guilty as the rest of us. Get over it.

Why not just do what Matthew said to do if you're going to post in the Crisis forum? "The elderly aren't exempt from the rule that if you want to argue Sedevacantism or Feeneyism, you need to bring your thick skin and a good shield." It's his forum, if you don't like it, start your own and see how you like it when posters knock the way you run it or tell you how they think it should be run.

It's interesting how supportive the Feeneyites are of this forum and how it's run. Probably because they know this forum is the only game in town for them.

I'm getting a lot off my chest my dear Stubborn. Trust me, I won't be posting here all that much anymore once I finish doing so.

Then simply leave.

If there is so much to complain about CathInfo and the way the moderator runs it, what in the world are you doing here?

Go to the other forum, where you belong. You know which one. Join the anti-Cathinfo crowd there as you have already done.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #81 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:12:54 PM »

With regard to my laying into Myrna, Myrna too exhibited a very childishly disruptive posting style. Pretty much on EVERY thread that related to some criticism of Francis, Myrna would chime in with the one-liner "And yet he's your pope." That became rather obnoxious after, say, about the 50th time or so.

Yes, I did use a reference to her as "granny Myrna" to underscore the absurdity of any untrained "grandmother" being able to declare the Holy See vacant on theological grounds. It's a form of argumentum ad absurdum.

And as Matthew quite easily figured out, when I solemnly declared "x, y, and z" to be manifest heretics and non-Catholics that too was a form of argumentum ad absurdum. If my declaration of manifest heresy on the part of these lay people meant ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, then a fortiori for any declarations made by them regarding the manifest heresy of Francis. And, in fact, lest the argument be lost on you, about 10 minutes and 2 posts later, I chimed in with an explanation of EXACTLY what I mean. My entire point was quite the OPPOSITE, underscoring that we have no business determining who is and who is not a heretic. Nishant, who's eminently charitable, at one point also adopted that kind of argument against a "manifest heretic"er.

Matthew · « **Reply #82 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:16:57 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

With regard to my laying into Myrna, Myrna too exhibited a very childishly disruptive posting style. Pretty much on EVERY thread that related to some criticism of Francis, Myrna would chime in with the one-liner "And yet he's your pope." That became rather obnoxious after, say, about the 50th time or so.

Yes, I did use a reference to her as "granny Myrna" to underscore the absurdity of any untrained "grandmother" being able to declare the Holy See vacant on theological grounds. It's a form of argumentum ad absurdum.

I agree.

If an elderly woman (or man) is going to play "feisty", they need to be able to take at least as much as they dish out.

No fair letting them punch you to a bloody pulp (physically or verbally) while you stand there and do nothing, out of respect for their age.

What kind of lame deal is that?

I'm sure Myrna knew it might (or, likely would) offend/stimulate a response. She must have known the response she was aiming for.

Also note: It's not fair to make Myrna seem like some kind of hypocrite (who can dish out but not take) -- after all, she hasn't complained about this. It's others that are getting "offended for her".

So I'm not criticizing Myrna here -- I'm just talking about IN GENERAL for any elderly person jumping into an argument or verbal fray. I know quite a few elderly women that are feisty.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #83 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:29:28 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

I know quite a few elderly women that are feisty.

And isn't it almost patronizing to lay off just due to age? That's almost a subtle insult in itself. We're not talking about physical violence here against the elderly. She has her wits about her, no? So what does getting into an argument on principles with an older person have to do with "abuse of the elderly" (which is almost what's being implied here). If, for instance, some older person started blaspheming against Our Blessed Mother, should I remain silent out of respect for the elderly? That doesn't even make sense and is being used a dishonest form of attack. It's common in various types of propaganda used by the media, to create an emotional link and then guilt by association. I still remember a debate between some Protestant and a Jew on TV where the Protestant said that Jews could not be saved. In response, the Jew kept bringing up "The h0Ɩ0cαųst", over and over again, even though that had NOTHING to do with the subject at hand and the Protestant wasn't the least bit "anti-Semitic". By the end of the debate, the Jews almost openly said that the Protestant was a h0Ɩ0cαųst-supporter for holding to the theological position that non-Catholics can't be saved.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #84 on:** February 02, 2015, 06:33:54 PM »

Now, with ALL that said, I do admit that I often have problems with irascibility; it's currently the greatest vice that I am battling in my life. For the occasions where my harshness WAS motivated by a lack of charity, I do sincerely apologize. I'm trying to work on this. SOMETIMES the perceived harshness was just a calculated form of argument. At other times, I did genuinely lose my cool and acted intemperately. I get easily frustrated by certain things; my buttons get pushed. As I pointed out, I'm OK with an educated, well-informed person being arrogant about it. I'm actually quite moved by the uneducated person who's humble about it. What really pushes my buttons is a person who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about, and hasn't even the slightest education in theology and philosophy, and yet carries on with a hubris that would suggest he's the reincarnation of St. Thomas Aquinas.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #85 on:** February 02, 2015, 07:24:30 PM »

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Buh-bye.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #86 on:** February 02, 2015, 07:46:07 PM »

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Buh-bye.

It seems that was the first post of yours that I disliked.

Fare thee well.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #87 on:** February 02, 2015, 08:12:56 PM »

:boxer: :boxer: :boxer: :boxer:

Take that you youngsters !!!!

Nadir · « **Reply #88 on:** February 02, 2015, 08:15:29 PM »

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Buh-bye.

It seems that was the first post of yours that I disliked.

Fare thee well.

For the life of me, having searched pages 14 to the present, I can't find where 2Vermont said that. But I did find where Ladislaus said that 2Vermont said that.

What 2Vermont said is:

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Trust me, I won't be posting here all that much anymore once I finish doing so.

which I had interpreted, and by which I hoped that she meant that she would not be posting as much as before, but not that she was leaving us. If you are leaving 2V, be assured that I enjoyed having you here. God bless you, but I hope you'll hang around. At least the women's section!

Cantarella · « **Reply #89 on:** February 02, 2015, 08:16:19 PM »

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:boxer: :boxer: :boxer: :boxer:

Take that you youngsters !!!!

hahaha, great

I know you have developed quite the thick skin, Myrna and I am actually fond of you, despite our differences.

Hugs to you :dancing: