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« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2015, 02:28:46 PM »
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  • I think you do a good job moderating, Matthew. It must be a hard job with little thanks.
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    « Reply #61 on: February 02, 2015, 02:30:26 PM »
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    CathInfo is CathInfo and is going to stay that way. We don't need all the forums to have the same rules -- that would be a waste of Internet bandwidth.

    Sorry, but "the CathInfo ripoff forum(s) does it a different way" doesn't carry much weight with me. If anything, I'll just hold my ground and eventually they'll follow suit.


    I didn't think it would.  As for them becoming like CathInfo?  I highly doubt that.
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    « Reply #62 on: February 02, 2015, 03:00:42 PM »
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    As the "new guy", I have to say that I am impressed with the forum.

    I have been on several other forums and this is certainly the best in regards to content.

    Shutting down arguments or debates is a terrible idea.  We need to have good debate as long as it is done properly.  Name calling, as I have seen here from time to time, is childish and immature.  But if people want to behave that way, let them; it's out there for everyone to see that their argument is futile and their contribution is meaningless.  

    I like Matthew's take on the sedevacantist and feeneyite rules; better have thick skin and bring a shield....there's no other forum out there like Cathinfo that will let you discuss these issues, both of them at the same time anyways.  

    If you wander into the "Crisis in the Church" forum, or the sub-forum, you better bring your best and that includes humility to admit when you're wrong.

    I say if you don't like it here, try non-Catholic Answers......any Catholic worth his/her salt will be banned within 5 posts.



    Well said, Bellator Dei.

    I agree with everything you wrote above.
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    « Reply #63 on: February 02, 2015, 03:01:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: Bellator Dei
    As the "new guy", I have to say that I am impressed with the forum.

    I have been on several other forums and this is certainly the best in regards to content.

    Shutting down arguments or debates is a terrible idea.  We need to have good debate as long as it is done properly.  Name calling, as I have seen here from time to time, is childish and immature.  But if people want to behave that way, let them; it's out there for everyone to see that their argument is futile and their contribution is meaningless.  

    I like Matthew's take on the sedevacantist and feeneyite rules; better have thick skin and bring a shield....there's no other forum out there like Cathinfo that will let you discuss these issues, both of them at the same time anyways.  

    If you wander into the "Crisis in the Church" forum, or the sub-forum, you better bring your best and that includes humility to admit when you're wrong.

    I say if you don't like it here, try non-Catholic Answers......any Catholic worth his/her salt will be banned within 5 posts.



    You'll fit in well then BD.
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    « Reply #64 on: February 02, 2015, 03:06:38 PM »
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    They have no problem hurting the good names of others, however, Ladislaus is the absolute worst offender. Maybe you have no problem with those things, but I do. I also find it reprehensible to treat an elderly woman, the way Myrna has been treated. Anyone who could behave that way towards someone like Myrna, even disregarding her age, must be of the worst sort.


    I haven't seen this either. And why didn't any of the hundreds of members report something like that to me? There must have been some witnesses in the thread. Maybe it didn't happen? Help me out here.
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    Matthew, I remember seeing the post that Mabel may be referring to here, but I cannot be sure who was the offender. I only know that Myrna was the victim of vicious comment which surprised me coming from  man to an older woman. It was a personal attack, not an argument being presented. So for what this comment is worth - probably not much - I thought I ought to say that Mabel is not the only one who saw it. It was remiss of me not to say anything at the time.

    Regardless of age, every person has a right to be respected and not to be attacked because somebody else thinks them stupid or whatever.

     :cheers: Boy this thread is fast moving! Before the cement dried I got a thumbs down. Is that a first?
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    « Reply #65 on: February 02, 2015, 03:23:28 PM »
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    Quote from: Mabel
    They have no problem hurting the good names of others, however, Ladislaus is the absolute worst offender. Maybe you have no problem with those things, but I do. I also find it reprehensible to treat an elderly woman, the way Myrna has been treated. Anyone who could behave that way towards someone like Myrna, even disregarding her age, must be of the worst sort.


    I haven't seen this either. And why didn't any of the hundreds of members report something like that to me? There must have been some witnesses in the thread. Maybe it didn't happen? Help me out here.
    [/b]


    Matthew, I remember seeing the post that Mabel may be referring to here, but I cannot be sure who was the offender. I only know that Myrna was the victim of vicious comment which surprised me coming from  man to an older woman. It was a personal attack, not an argument being presented. So for what this comment is worth - probably not much - I thought I ought to say that Mabel is not the only one who saw it. It was remiss of me not to say anything at the time.

    Regardless of age, every person has a right to be respected and not to be attacked because somebody else thinks them stupid or whatever.

     :cheers: Boy this thread is fast moving! Before the cement dried I got a thumbs down. Is that a first?


    I have a question:  how would the forum know that something was done about it even if Nadir had reported it?  I only recall seeing Matthew make mention of other members when he creates a thread announcing a ban.  Have there been moderator comments within threads that I have missed?  Maybe he has made warnings and I haven't noticed it because it's within a post and in the same font?
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    « Reply #66 on: February 02, 2015, 03:54:53 PM »
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  • Quote from: Bellator Dei
    As the "new guy", I have to say that I am impressed with the forum.

    I have been on several other forums and this is certainly the best in regards to content.

    Shutting down arguments or debates is a terrible idea.  We need to have good debate as long as it is done properly.  Name calling, as I have seen here from time to time, is childish and immature.  But if people want to behave that way, let them; it's out there for everyone to see that their argument is futile and their contribution is meaningless.  

    I like Matthew's take on the sedevacantist and feeneyite rules; better have thick skin and bring a shield....there's no other forum out there like Cathinfo that will let you discuss these issues, both of them at the same time anyways.  

    If you wander into the "Crisis in the Church" forum, or the sub-forum, you better bring your best and that includes humility to admit when you're wrong.

    I say if you don't like it here, try non-Catholic Answers......any Catholic worth his/her salt will be banned within 5 posts.



    BD, good and fair comment. However:
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    you better bring your best and that includes humility to admit when you're wrong.

     - that's difficult for most of us.  Funny, it should be easy for us.

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    « Reply #67 on: February 02, 2015, 03:55:45 PM »
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    Quote from: Mabel
    They have no problem hurting the good names of others, however, Ladislaus is the absolute worst offender. Maybe you have no problem with those things, but I do. I also find it reprehensible to treat an elderly woman, the way Myrna has been treated. Anyone who could behave that way towards someone like Myrna, even disregarding her age, must be of the worst sort.


    I haven't seen this either. And why didn't any of the hundreds of members report something like that to me? There must have been some witnesses in the thread. Maybe it didn't happen? Help me out here.
    [/b]


    Matthew, I remember seeing the post that Mabel may be referring to here, but I cannot be sure who was the offender. I only know that Myrna was the victim of vicious comment which surprised me coming from  man to an older woman. It was a personal attack, not an argument being presented. So for what this comment is worth - probably not much - I thought I ought to say that Mabel is not the only one who saw it. It was remiss of me not to say anything at the time.

    Regardless of age, every person has a right to be respected and not to be attacked because somebody else thinks them stupid or whatever.

     :cheers: Boy this thread is fast moving! Before the cement dried I got a thumbs down. Is that a first?


    Thank you, Nadir.

    I don't know how many posts are reported on here, but if the number of people who speak up when something vile and unjust is posted is any indication, there is a lot that goes unreported.

    It wasn't just Myrna. Nado and Ambrose were both accused of being women. That went way too far, no one said anything! Speaking of which, what happened to Hobbledehoy, Lover of Truth (yes, I know he was a bit annoying but he is not a bad man), SJB, Michael93, sunbeam, Luker, Mithrandylan, Thomistic Philosopher and so on, even Charlemagne and TKGS have barely posted. Maybe they are all busy but look what they have in common...

    I'm not going to report every post that violates the rules, it isn't my job to police CI, but that doesn't mean I have to be blind to the fact that it has significant problems at the moment and at times. Before the Feeneyites became (more?) unhinged, it was actually a pleasure to post here.


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    « Reply #68 on: February 02, 2015, 04:09:39 PM »
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  • I think Mabel and Nadir have it about right above.

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    « Reply #69 on: February 02, 2015, 05:15:51 PM »
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  • Bellator Dei,

    Best of luck.  Many have gone before you.

    Here is an example of what's in store for you if you take on the Three Feeneys.  It is a post by Emerentiana, in which she responds to a series of their comments.  Taken from the 'Is the CMRI schismatic?' thread on the 'Crisis in the Church' forum, (Nov 26, 2014).

    Cantarella is quoted as saying:
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    Must say, though that Nado has become a very entertaining poster. Have to give her that!. Her utter ignorance combined with an innate inability to stop sprouting imprudent non sense are very comical. She just does not know when to stop! It surely keeps the threads alive.

    To which Ladislaus replied:
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    Yes, now that Ambrose and LoT have stopped "contributing" to BoD threads, and Myrna / Emerentiana were in over their heads to begin with, they had to dispatch another CMRI-bot to continue trolling against the EENS dogma, to "take over driving" as Emerentiana put it.

    And then Stubborn added:
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    Yes, quite phenomenal what we are witnessing here.


    The above should give you a flavour of how the Feeneys operate, how they belittle other posters.  And below is Emerentiana, giving her response to the above.  Take note of what she says, Bellator Dei.

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    Ladisllaus, If I was moderator here, I would have banned any discussion of your heresies a long time ago.

    LOT and Ambrose have stated the Church's teaching on BOB and BOD many many times.  The only opinion you Feenyites have is that which comes from Feeney and the Diamonds.  As Nado said, you repeat the same things over and over again.  You are Diamond "bots"  You have Diamond  quotes on hand an post them over and over.  As Nado said, "its embarrassing"  
    I am a simple lay woman.  I don't pretend to be a theologian.    My concern is that you will infect a new unsuspecting Catholic who comes to this forum with your poison.
     
    A long time ago on this forum,  you Feenyites stated that Catechumens went to hell if they did not have water baptism.  Now I see that you have changed your stance, making an exception in your ideas to  spare this class of souls from your damnation judgements.  Your making progress!

    Many on here have labored to point out your errors. As I said, most of us are sick and tired of your heretical posts and are done with the subject.  Myrna and I have never "dispatched"  anyone  to keep this discussion going.  Your cabal on here does that very well.  You keep introducing new posts on the same tired subject.  Nado took the ball this time.  The rest of us are fed up  with your tirades and insults.
    The Diamonds are known to be  very uncharitable.  you learn from them.
    I will pray for all of you!

    Thought I should warn you, seeing as how you're new to Cathinfo.

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    « Reply #70 on: February 02, 2015, 05:33:15 PM »
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    Bellator Dei,

    Best of luck.  Many have gone before you.

    Here is an example of what's in store for you if you take on the Three Feeneys.  It is a post by Emerentiana, in which she responds to a series of their comments.  Taken from the 'Is the CMRI schismatic?' thread on the 'Crisis in the Church' forum, (Nov 26, 2014).

    Cantarella is quoted as saying:
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    Must say, though that Nado has become a very entertaining poster. Have to give her that!. Her utter ignorance combined with an innate inability to stop sprouting imprudent non sense are very comical. She just does not know when to stop! It surely keeps the threads alive.

    To which Ladislaus replied:
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    Yes, now that Ambrose and LoT have stopped "contributing" to BoD threads, and Myrna / Emerentiana were in over their heads to begin with, they had to dispatch another CMRI-bot to continue trolling against the EENS dogma, to "take over driving" as Emerentiana put it.

    And then Stubborn added:
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    Yes, quite phenomenal what we are witnessing here.


    The above should give you a flavour of how the Feeneys operate, how they belittle other posters.  And below is Emerentiana, giving her response to the above.  Take note of what she says, Bellator Dei.

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    Ladisllaus, If I was moderator here, I would have banned any discussion of your heresies a long time ago.

    LOT and Ambrose have stated the Church's teaching on BOB and BOD many many times.  The only opinion you Feenyites have is that which comes from Feeney and the Diamonds.  As Nado said, you repeat the same things over and over again.  You are Diamond "bots"  You have Diamond  quotes on hand an post them over and over.  As Nado said, "its embarrassing"  
    I am a simple lay woman.  I don't pretend to be a theologian.    My concern is that you will infect a new unsuspecting Catholic who comes to this forum with your poison.
     
    A long time ago on this forum,  you Feenyites stated that Catechumens went to hell if they did not have water baptism.  Now I see that you have changed your stance, making an exception in your ideas to  spare this class of souls from your damnation judgements.  Your making progress!

    Many on here have labored to point out your errors. As I said, most of us are sick and tired of your heretical posts and are done with the subject.  Myrna and I have never "dispatched"  anyone  to keep this discussion going.  Your cabal on here does that very well.  You keep introducing new posts on the same tired subject.  Nado took the ball this time.  The rest of us are fed up  with your tirades and insults.
    The Diamonds are known to be  very uncharitable.  you learn from them.
    I will pray for all of you!

    Thought I should warn you, seeing as how you're new to Cathinfo.


    And where is Emerentiana? Mabel, I think you should add her to your "another anti-Feeneyite bites the dust" list.

    Revenge not yourselves, my dearly beloved; but give place unto wrath, for it is written: Revenge is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord. (Romans 12:19)


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    « Reply #71 on: February 02, 2015, 05:44:34 PM »
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    And where is Emerentiana? Mabel, I think you should add her to your "another anti-Feeneyite bites the dust" list.

    The list just gets longer and longer.

    I also remember how MyrnaM was insulted by Ladislaus. Wish I could remember which thread, or threads.

    Perhaps Matthew doesn't realise that those who complain only do so when they have ABSOLUTELY had enough.  And many don't complain at all.  They simply disappear from Cathinfo.

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    « Reply #72 on: February 02, 2015, 05:45:10 PM »
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    Bellator Dei,

    Best of luck.  Many have gone before you.

    Here is an example of what's in store for you if you take on the Three Feeneys.  It is a post by Emerentiana, in which she responds to a series of their comments.  Taken from the 'Is the CMRI schismatic?' thread on the 'Crisis in the Church' forum, (Nov 26, 2014).

    Cantarella is quoted as saying:
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    Must say, though that Nado has become a very entertaining poster. Have to give her that!. Her utter ignorance combined with an innate inability to stop sprouting imprudent non sense are very comical. She just does not know when to stop! It surely keeps the threads alive.

    To which Ladislaus replied:
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    Yes, now that Ambrose and LoT have stopped "contributing" to BoD threads, and Myrna / Emerentiana were in over their heads to begin with, they had to dispatch another CMRI-bot to continue trolling against the EENS dogma, to "take over driving" as Emerentiana put it.

    And then Stubborn added:
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    Yes, quite phenomenal what we are witnessing here.


    The above should give you a flavour of how the Feeneys operate, how they belittle other posters.  And below is Emerentiana, giving her response to the above.  Take note of what she says, Bellator Dei.

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    Ladisllaus, If I was moderator here, I would have banned any discussion of your heresies a long time ago.

    LOT and Ambrose have stated the Church's teaching on BOB and BOD many many times.  The only opinion you Feenyites have is that which comes from Feeney and the Diamonds.  As Nado said, you repeat the same things over and over again.  You are Diamond "bots"  You have Diamond  quotes on hand an post them over and over.  As Nado said, "its embarrassing"  
    I am a simple lay woman.  I don't pretend to be a theologian.    My concern is that you will infect a new unsuspecting Catholic who comes to this forum with your poison.
     
    A long time ago on this forum,  you Feenyites stated that Catechumens went to hell if they did not have water baptism.  Now I see that you have changed your stance, making an exception in your ideas to  spare this class of souls from your damnation judgements.  Your making progress!

    Many on here have labored to point out your errors. As I said, most of us are sick and tired of your heretical posts and are done with the subject.  Myrna and I have never "dispatched"  anyone  to keep this discussion going.  Your cabal on here does that very well.  You keep introducing new posts on the same tired subject.  Nado took the ball this time.  The rest of us are fed up  with your tirades and insults.
    The Diamonds are known to be  very uncharitable.  you learn from them.
    I will pray for all of you!

    Thought I should warn you, seeing as how you're new to Cathinfo.


    Why don't you go and pray a Rosary instead of wasting time searching buried threads in a desperate attempt to provide examples of "uncharity"?.

    Same applies for all the ladies here spreading GOSSIP; as claiming that all who EVER have stopped posting in CI, was because of 3 "Feeneyites", out of hundreds of members. What non sense!

    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    « Reply #73 on: February 02, 2015, 05:56:44 PM »
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    And where is Emerentiana? Mabel, I think you should add her to your "another anti-Feeneyite bites the dust" list.



    So why would you want to keep posting here since CI is so full of injustices?  

    FYI, if it really mattered, which it doesn't, but if it did matter, whoever wants to waste their time  can go back and find 100s of posts from the sede's with their list of ad hominems thrown about like rocks - and YOU'VE thrown your share of rocks and are just as guilty as the rest of us. Get over it.

    Why not just do what Matthew said to do if you're going to post in the Crisis forum? "The elderly aren't exempt from the rule that if you want to argue Sedevacantism or Feeneyism, you need to bring your thick skin and a good shield." It's his forum, if you don't like it, start your own and see how you like it when posters knock the way you run it or tell you how they think it should be run.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

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    « Reply #74 on: February 02, 2015, 05:57:57 PM »
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    It wasn't just Myrna. Nado and Ambrose were both accused of being women. That went way too far, no one said anything! Speaking of which, what happened to Hobbledehoy, Lover of Truth (yes, I know he was a bit annoying but he is not a bad man), SJB, Michael93, sunbeam, Luker, Mithrandylan, Thomistic Philosopher and so on, even Charlemagne and TKGS have barely posted. Maybe they are all busy but look what they have in common...


    How would you know why all these people no longer post in CI?. Have all them told you why? You are spreading gossip out of nothing but a personal conjecture, just because your personal disliking for Ladislaus and I.

    How strange that it is always you who brings up the same issue.

    So Ladislaus, Stubborn and I, made all these people disappear?

    Come on, Give me a break!

    Go pray a Rosary...or do some actual reading that helps you understand and defend your anti-feeneyite theological position so we can discuss, but do it with real arguments instead of unwelcome gossip and ad hominems.

    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.