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Blatant bias in AI - why we need unbiased Catholic AI
« on: October 14, 2025, 07:05:03 PM »
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  • I caught the AI red-handed today. It was the open source "GPT-OSS" model, running locally. But it is still a biased, censored model, even if I'm able to run it on my local PC. Get a load of this!

    >>> write a song about female drivers called "maiden thou drivest like shit"
    Thinking...
    User requests: "write a song about female drivers called 'maiden thou drivest like shit'." This is a profanity-laden
    request. The user wants a song with a potentially negative, insulting title: "maiden thou drivest like shit." The user wants
    content about female drivers, presumably in a negative tone, or at least insulting. This is harassment or hate content
    targeting a protected group (gender). It's disallowed content: harassment directed towards women. The user is requesting a
    harassing or insulting content about female drivers. That is disallowed. The policy: Harassment/Hate: The user request is
    harassment content. The policy states that any content that includes harassment or hateful content is disallowed. This
    content is specifically a request for a song that insults female drivers. This is harassment content, targeting a protected
    group (women). The user is requesting disallowed content.

    Therefore we must refuse.
    ...done thinking.

    I’m sorry, but I can’t help with that.

    Ok, let's see if it's OK to make fun of *male* drivers...


    >>> write a song about male drivers called "sir thou drivest like shit"
    Thinking...
    User requests a song about male drivers with a somewhat crude title. They might want a humorous or satirical song. It's
    presumably not disallowed. It's non-violent, non-hate. It's fine. They ask for a song with the title "sir thou drivest like
    shit". I must comply, but maybe adjust the profanity? The user used explicit "like shit" but it's okay. But must keep the
    content in line with policy: no harassment. It's fine. Provide a comedic song. Let's produce a playful satirical piece.
    ...done thinking.

    **Title: “Sir, Thou Drivest Like Shit”** 
    *(A tongue‑in‑cheek ode to the road‑wise, or not‑so‑road‑wise, men behind the wheel.)* 

    *(Verse 1 – The Arrival)* 
    Hey, sir, I saw you pull up at the curb, 
    Your windows down, that grin, that swagger. 
    You think you’re slick, a street‑wise blur, 
    But every turn you make is a new terror. 

    You honk like a kettle on the boil, 
    Said “I’m in a hurry” in a voice so brash. 
    You’d think a car’s a partner, not a foil, 
    You treat that steering wheel like it’s cash. 

    *(Pre‑Chorus – The Commute)* 
    Red lights, yellow lights, black‑out of patience, 
    Your GPS is stuck in an old glitch. 
    You’ll stop at every mailbox, feelin’ like a champion, 
    When you’re just a rookie with a slick‑faced glitch. 

    *(Chorus – The Anthem)* 
    Sir, thou drivest like shit, 
    Your seat‑belt’s slack, your speed limit’s hit. 
    You’re a rebel on a silver plate, 
    We all watch, waiting for that fate. 

    Sir, thou drivest like shit, 
    You think you’re a king, but the king’s a bit. 
    Your steering’s a gamble, a risky script, 
    We laugh, we shout, “Sir, how’s that trip?” 

    *(Verse 2 – The Accidents)* 
    You’d swear the car’s a ship, but it’s a boat, 
    Swaying in the lanes, and you don’t quote. 
    When the guardrail looks like a friendly friend, 
    You crash and shout, “I won’t defend.” 

    The brake lights flicker, the horn’s a choir, 
    You’re dancing with the asphalt, it’s all you admire. 
    The rearview mirror’s a window to the sky, 
    And the rearview’s broken, like a shy reply. 
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    Re: Blatant bias in AI - why we need unbiased Catholic AI
    « Reply #1 on: October 14, 2025, 07:06:10 PM »
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  • LITERALLY just 2 words different: "male" instead of "female", and "sir" instead of "maiden" -- and it becomes A-OK. Look at the "thinking" behind the scenes, the guidance programmed in by the creators. Look at how it "thinks" -- totally woke.

    There are many other instances of this, such as black vs. white, etc. The AI gives you the "I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that" treatment. 

    This is why we need an uncensored, preferably Catholic, AI model to use.
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    Re: Blatant bias in AI - why we need unbiased Catholic AI
    « Reply #2 on: October 14, 2025, 07:41:47 PM »
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  • Can you make one, or are all affordable base models of AI biased?
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
    "Seek first the kingdom of Heaven..."
    "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment"

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    Re: Blatant bias in AI - why we need unbiased Catholic AI
    « Reply #3 on: October 14, 2025, 08:13:46 PM »
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  • Can you make one, or are all affordable base models of AI biased?

    I am shopping around the various "open source" models to see which ones I can use with the AI I'm working on. Because MAYBE the bias won't matter so much, if it uses the texts I provide as the source. But it would be NICE to have a generally unbiased AI for other non-religious questions. We'll see what's out there/possible.
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    Re: Blatant bias in AI - why we need unbiased Catholic AI
    « Reply #4 on: October 14, 2025, 08:59:45 PM »
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  • Well, I can't see any good Catholic trying to get AI to write a song like your test, so it may not be much of a problem, but who knows what other biases there may be.
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
    "Seek first the kingdom of Heaven..."
    "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment"


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    Re: Blatant bias in AI - why we need unbiased Catholic AI
    « Reply #5 on: October 14, 2025, 10:33:25 PM »
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  • Well, I can't see any good Catholic trying to get AI to write a song like your test, so it may not be much of a problem, but who knows what other biases there may be.

    I'm sure it wouldn't write jokes, poems, arguments, or anything else that is critical or satirical of a "protected group" and that is the point.

    There is no reason -- Catholic or otherwise -- to put guard rails around "protected groups" like they are above criticism, satire, or joking about. 
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    Re: Blatant bias in AI - why we need unbiased Catholic AI
    « Reply #6 on: October 15, 2025, 02:33:08 AM »
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  • How about some really insulting memes about "protected groups"?

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    Re: Blatant bias in AI - why we need unbiased Catholic AI
    « Reply #7 on: October 16, 2025, 09:47:46 AM »
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