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Offline JoeZ

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Re: Are there space satellites?
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2026, 05:10:51 PM »
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    • https://satellitemap.space


    Here is a satellite tracker. Wait till it's dark and find one near you and go outside and look. It's easier to see them moving west to east because they are lit the from the start. 
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #16 on: February 10, 2026, 05:22:15 PM »
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    • My pic of a Starlink launch in early 2023.
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 05:51:08 AM »
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    • Quote from: JoeZ on February 10, 2026, 05:10:51 PM
    https://satellitemap.space


    Here is a satellite tracker. Wait till it's dark and find one near you and go outside and look. It's easier to see them moving west to east because they are lit the from the start.
    I was a governess/helper for a traditional Catholic family back about 15 years ago.  Both of the parents were retired Airforce Officers who had worked with Space Operations.  They were able to point out to me how to spot satellites in the sky at night with the naked eye.  I had never realized before that a person could see them without a telescope.  Great memories!  I think of them sometimes when I am outside looking at the stars.
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 07:14:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: JoeZ on February 09, 2026, 11:38:46 PM
    I view satellites regularly and it is quite simple with night vision. I've seen the Star Link satellite groups a day after launch and have pictures of them, all in a row, more than a dozen and moving spectacularly fast. They published the launch so we knew it was them.

    When viewing satellites it's easiest to spot them moving from west to east as they darken as they move east and that darkening event horizon acts quick and is north/south and moves west until midnight or so (depending on the time of year) when they no longer shine (presumably from the sun). If the earth was flat that event horizon would follow the the sun through the sky and make an arc from the southeast-south first and then move northwest/north from there but that is not what is actually viewed.

    Thermal does not see them, I think they are too far away or too cold.

    When I asked Sungenis how could geocentric satellites work on a stationary Earth his answer (theory was his word) is surprisingly simple. Think of a roulette wheel. The ball can be spun around with the wheel not moving and it will stay in orbit. The ball can be spun around with the wheel spun the opposite way and the ball stays in orbit. The ball can be spun around and the wheel can be spun in the same direction and the same velocity and the ball will stay in orbit. In all these scenarios, if the ball is not spun it will fall so the one constant in all of that is the ball must move relative to the room, not the wheel.

    I hope this helps,
    Correct me if I am wrong, but a roulette wheel has divettes, that is why the ball will stay stationary as the Roulette wheel is spinning.  If the roulette wheel were an absolutely flat surface I doubt that the ball would stay stationary. 
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 08:11:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: OABrownson1876 on Yesterday at 07:14:33 AM
    Correct me if I am wrong, but a roulette wheel has divettes, that is why the ball will stay stationary as the Roulette wheel is spinning.  If the roulette wheel were an absolutely flat surface I doubt that the ball would stay stationary.
    The roulette wheel does have divettes or detents/dividers on the numbered ring to give a positive determination of the result. The outside ring that the ball is initially spun around is smooth, is raised, and also has a rail or "curb" above it to keep the ball from flying away. The outer ball ring needs to be raised so that when the ball decelerates it must descend into the number ring.
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 11:04:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: IndultCat on February 09, 2026, 10:36:38 AM
    I have always heard that most of our internet and other technologies are controlled by "space satellites".

    No, sir; that's just another lie.  Massive cables running across the floor of the ocean do most of the heavy lifting, at least where the "worldwide" aspect of the web is concerned.  
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 11:05:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 09, 2026, 11:29:22 AM
    I found to my surprise that this is entirely untrue, that most data traffic goes around the world via these gigantic undersea cables.  

    Yup.
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 11:10:38 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on February 10, 2026, 06:42:36 AM
    Otherwise you are just giving propaganda to pull on people's emotions to believe what you want them to believe.

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    You may see the truth one day, but it's gonna take a while and that day isn't today.  Godspeed.
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 11:41:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on Yesterday at 11:10:38 AM
    "Hello, Kettle!  This is Pot.  You're BLACK!"

    You may see the truth one day, but it's gonna take a while and that day isn't today.  Godspeed.
    Do you argue that light doesn't pollute the atmosphere so you can't see as much in the sky when the lights go out?

    You guys gaslight us all the time, without even addressing the questions we have.  I keep hoping some day you will take these questions seriously.

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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 12:07:43 PM »
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    • There are LEO (low earth orbit) satellites which are only a few miles up.  That's mostly what corps, govts, Elon are sending up there.  The idea of satellites in "space" is a fantasy.  Because of God's firmament.
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 03:36:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on Yesterday at 12:07:43 PM
    There are LEO (low earth orbit) satellites which are only a few miles up.  That's mostly what corps, govts, Elon are sending up there.  The idea of satellites in "space" is a fantasy.  Because of God's firmament.

    This.

    The problem is, none of us have worked at an agency that puts up these "satellites". Verification of the truth is impossible for most of us.

    So I prefer to focus on other data points that CAN be reasoned out, experimented, experienced, etc.  If all of these point to Flat Earth, then the satellites being "unknown" or "undetermined" does nothing.

    Have you ever done a crossword puzzle? You don't get caught spending hours on "9 down" -- you move on to the easier problems; maybe some of the letters you fill in will help you with 9 down -- you come back to it later.

    And no, there is no serious evidence for "space satellites". Everyone who claims to have evidence that space-satellites exist have a vested interest in the deception, they are liars, and untrustworthy. I would be foolish to trust them.

    Mr. "It looks so fake, it has to be real" Elon Musk included. Satanic symbol on his shirt (and the Tesla logo itself) included.
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 04:35:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on Yesterday at 12:07:43 PM
    There are LEO (low earth orbit) satellites which are only a few miles up.  That's mostly what corps, govts, Elon are sending up there.  The idea of satellites in "space" is a fantasy.  Because of God's firmament.
    It is funny how words are used.  There are satellites in the sky.  It is in the "space" between the land of Earth and the firmament (maybe?).  We truly can't know because none of us are rich enough to borrow a space ship and go take a trip. We can buy a telescope and see what the planets look like.  Where are these planets?  Are you (who think NASA is a lie) implying they are just reflections on the inside of a dome?

    Most of you don't like my questions, but to get to the truth, they still need to be answered.  If you can't, then provide a clip from the internet, so I can evaluate it.  I am not one to just take someones word for it.  I don't know how big this "space" between the sky and the firmament is and I can't see why a globe can't float in the middle of another globe.  I do find the sky, stars and planets amazing, so they have had to been created by God.

    How many miles is a few?  It has to be more than 8 miles because in a plane you never see a satellite.  Has a weather balloon seen a satellite? Can't they go 33 miles up? Is it wrong for people to explore the sky?
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
    « Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 04:39:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on Yesterday at 03:36:55 PM
    This.

    The problem is, none of us have worked at an agency that puts up these "satellites". Verification of the truth is impossible for most of us.

    So I prefer to focus on other data points that CAN be reasoned out, experimented, experienced, etc.  If all of these point to Flat Earth, then the satellites being "unknown" or "undetermined" does nothing.

    Have you ever done a crossword puzzle? You don't get caught spending hours on "9 down" -- you move on to the easier problems; maybe some of the letters you fill in will help you with 9 down -- you come back to it later.

    And no, there is no serious evidence for "space satellites". Everyone who claims to have evidence that space-satellites exist have a vested interest in the deception, they are liars, and untrustworthy. I would be foolish to trust them.

    Mr. "It looks so fake, it has to be real" Elon Musk included. Satanic symbol on his shirt (and the Tesla logo itself) included.
    Further, if you think about WHY satellites are sent up to “space”, it all points to LEO satellites and not “space” ones. 

    What do the movies tells us about satellites?  They are used for taking pictures of earth, tracking terrorists, cars, and even zooming in on people walking on the sidewalk (with enough zoom power to read time on a wristwatch).  The tech is there for a LEO satellite only 1-3 miles in the air.  There is NO WAY that a satellite in space (300-400 miles away) is taking photos of a car.  That’s fantasy. 

    Secondly, the same thing applies with missle tracking, GPS, weapons, satellite radio, satellite internet, etc.  This stuff is NOT be transmitted 300-400 miles from space.  No, it’s using LEO satellites from a mile or so. 

    What’s the most common light fixture today?  LED.  Those are probably used on satellites.  LED range of sight is around a few miles.  Not 300+. 

    The ISS is said to be 250 miles above earth.  I just don’t buy that.
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on Yesterday at 04:35:08 PM
    It is in the "space" between the land of Earth and the firmament (maybe?).  
    :facepalm:  That's not what "space" means.  In common understanding, "space" is the location OUTSIDE OF EARTH (i.e. when you exit earth and enter the "galaxy").  

    Scripture does not permit mankind/spacecraft/rockets, etc to go beyond the firmament.  So there has been no exploration of space, no visits to the Moon, etc.

    Quit re-defining terms in an attempt to co-mingle truth with lies.  Accept reality.  Accept you've been lied to.  Wake up.
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    Re: Are there space satellites?
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on Yesterday at 04:39:50 PM
    Further, if you think about WHY satellites are sent up to “space”, it all points to LEO satellites and not “space” ones. 

    What do the movies tells us about satellites?  They are used for taking pictures of earth, tracking terrorists, cars, and even zooming in on people walking on the sidewalk (with enough zoom power to read time on a wristwatch).  The tech is there for a LEO satellite only 1-3 miles in the air.  There is NO WAY that a satellite in space (300-400 miles away) is taking photos of a car.  That’s fantasy. 

    Secondly, the same thing applies with missle tracking, GPS, weapons, satellite radio, satellite internet, etc.  This stuff is NOT be transmitted 300-400 miles from space.  No, it’s using LEO satellites from a mile or so. 

    What’s the most common light fixture today?  LED.  Those are probably used on satellites.  LED range of sight is around a few miles.  Not 300+. 

    The ISS is said to be 250 miles above earth.  I just don’t buy that.
    LEOs are said to be 186 miles in the air.  Wouldn't we have pictures from people if they were only 1 to 3 miles and they would hit things at that distance like mountains.  Planes cruise above 6 miles, we can see them.  Please find some pictures people have taken of these objects. If they are so low they should be easy to see.  If a telescope can see something far away, why can't we make an electronic do the same thing?  
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