Author Topic: Admonishment of CM (Read 35021 times)

Belloc · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2010, 01:49:16 PM »

One has to use balance and not only Lovey Dovey and not "in yo face" attitude...when someone just lost their dad, is not the time to say, basically, "well, he was a Prot and sorry, he is burning in Hell".... got to take a more subtle and oepn approach.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2010, 01:51:13 PM »

Quote from: spouse of Jesus

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Perhaps in some twisted way you feel that you're dedicated to the truth, and that the truth requires behavior like that. Let me tell you something: The Pharisees did EVERYTHING RIGHT materially speaking. They tithed all products, did all the fasts, the sabbath rest, etc. BUT OUR LORD WAS NOT PLEASED WITH THEM -- AT ALL. They couldn't see the forest for the trees. They forgot love, mercy, etc. (Not my charges, those are from Our Lord whom you claim to follow)

Some people believe that charity doesn't necessarily mean sayingt kind works, showing affection and smiling at others. Sometimes harshness, punishment and making someone suffer is charity. The best examples are parents, teachers, doctors, surgeons and policemen who make people suffer because of love.

Some times the suffering is necessary, but many times it is not. If it's possible to correct someone gently, respectfully, it is better to do so. Yes, some are stubborn and need
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but most respond better to truth presented in a gentler manner.

I'd say if you have to be harsh with someone, perhaps it would be better to do so in a more private manner than using a public Internet forum.

Belloc · « **Reply #7 on:** February 09, 2010, 01:51:47 PM »

:applause:

Ladislaus · « **Reply #8 on:** February 09, 2010, 01:53:55 PM »

V2 actually set in motion this false Hegelian dialectic between truth and charity.

V2 implied that preaching the truth of the Catholic Faith to non-Catholics and confronting them with their errors is just plain "not nice". So the anti-V2 folks have a tendency to overreact in the opposite direction by rejecting all "niceness" and embracing the bitter truth (sometimes almost relishing when others are in error).

As a matter of fact, rebuking those in error can and should be a great act of charity. It's all in one's intentions and motives. To allow someone to remain uncorrected in their errors is a great act of un-charity--but you don't have to be mean and nasty about it. In sports, I've had coaches who were hard on me. Some I liked because they just wanted us to improve. Others I disliked because they were just mean jerks. And we knew the difference. Preaching truth with love tends to win people to the truth. Preaching truth with self-righteous arrogance tends to drive them away from it. It's the same truth.

Belloc · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2010, 01:58:18 PM »

Good points, arrogance does not bring one into Faith at all, no does meanness