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A thread at FE you all will love to chat about
« Reply #155 on: February 24, 2013, 04:28:55 PM »
Quote from: Dellery
Quote from: Rosarium
I was not banned. My account was deleted at my request.

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Rosarium is a "conciliarist", or as most of us would say, modernist.
He was crazily talking about licensing his posts before she gave him the axe.


No, this is misrepresenting what took place.

The issue had multiple facets, but the final issues were the lack of ability to edit posts and the word filter which (without notification) changed certain words to "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ".

The licensing my posts example was not a serious attempt to license my posts, but an effort to make a point, a point which was tangential to the topic.

I am not a modernist. That is a grave error and a defined heresy. It is not something to be tossed around lightly. Libel is hardly holy.

Unless you are holding me to actual teachings of the Church, rather than your opinions, you should retract such statements.

Quote from: Dellery
Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
Ah, sorry. I didn't know Rosarium was a conciliarist.

FWIW, modernists wouldn't be so successful if it was easy to immediately see their errors.


Or, you can be paranoid and see errors everywhere, without actually being able to show them. It is easy to find errors if they are evident.

I am Catholic and follow the teachings of the Church, which are timeless. If I hold error, I am ready for correction, but those errors must be held by me, not imagined by somebody posting about people they do not know.

I know many object to my personality, and it is not something which is beneficial for my person to stand in the way of what matters, but accusations of heresy must be made with some grounding rather than one's imagination.





Don't you attend the indult?


Are you, Dellery the man, a pharisee?

A thread at FE you all will love to chat about
« Reply #156 on: February 24, 2013, 04:45:44 PM »
Quote from: Dellery

Don't you attend the indult?


I am Catholic and follow the teachings of the Church, which are timeless. If I hold error, I am ready for correction, but those errors must be held by me, not imagined by somebody posting about people they do not know.

To make a claim of heresy, you must show Church teaching being defied, not your personal opinions.

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FWIW, modernists wouldn't be so successful if it was easy to immediately see their errors.


So, what is the basis for the claim of heresy in me and what are my "errors"?

Your lack of information about where I have attended Mass is hardly a basis for such a claim. If your standard of orthodoxy would be impossible for the saints to meet, then it is not a true standard.

I have a blog and website full of words I have written, and any errors, even accidents, should be easy to find, considering I write publicly on moral matters.

If you show where error exists, I will work to correct it, however, if it cannot be shown, you should not make such sinful remarks about others.

Unless fruitful discussion on this matter results, I will not post more on it. It is a waste of effort to bandy words futilely.

St. Bernadette pray for us.





A thread at FE you all will love to chat about
« Reply #157 on: February 24, 2013, 04:59:46 PM »
Quote from: Rosarium
Quote from: Dellery

Don't you attend the indult?


I am Catholic and follow the teachings of the Church, which are timeless. If I hold error, I am ready for correction, but those errors must be held by me, not imagined by somebody posting about people they do not know.

To make a claim of heresy, you must show Church teaching being defied, not your personal opinions.

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FWIW, modernists wouldn't be so successful if it was easy to immediately see their errors.


So, what is the basis for the claim of heresy in me and what are my "errors"?

Your lack of information about where I have attended Mass is hardly a basis for such a claim. If your standard of orthodoxy would be impossible for the saints to meet, then it is not a true standard.

I have a blog and website full of words I have written, and any errors, even accidents, should be easy to find, considering I write publicly on moral matters.

If you show where error exists, I will work to correct it, however, if it cannot be shown, you should not make such sinful remarks about others.

Unless fruitful discussion on this matter results, I will not post more on it. It is a waste of effort to bandy words futilely.

St. Bernadette pray for us.




Rosarium,
If I remember correctly, you accept the New Mass, quite vigorously defend the indult, and accept that Vat. 2 was a good council who's docuмents have been misinterpreted, these positions belie an implicit Modernism.


A thread at FE you all will love to chat about
« Reply #158 on: February 24, 2013, 04:59:58 PM »
Quote from: Rosarium
Quote from: Dellery

If your standard of orthodoxy would be impossible for the saints to meet, then it is not a true standard.
St. Bernadette pray for us.


That's true for many trads. Pride is what it is. Many traditional Catholics think of themselves as warrior keyboardists whose conceptions of being Catholic is insurmountable but only by them and their one or two friends.

A thread at FE you all will love to chat about
« Reply #159 on: February 24, 2013, 05:31:29 PM »
Quote from: Dellery

Rosarium,
If I remember correctly, you accept the New Mass, quite vigorously defend the indult, and accept that Vat. 2 was a good council who's docuмents have been misinterpreted, these positions belie an implicit Modernism.



Implicit heresy? Are you God, the searcher of hearts?

If there is heresy, show it.

You have a very unreliable memory, which you seem to recognize in part, and if you make sweeping out of context and unsubstantiated statements, I am not going to address them.

Heresy is a grave accusation, and one not to be made lightly.

That you perceive me to be in oppositions to your opinions is not grounds for accusations of denial of any article of Faith.