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Offline Jaynek

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« Reply #135 on: February 12, 2013, 05:39:58 AM »
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  • If having me be a member of a forum means it is a bad forum, you will have to apply that to CI as well.  

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    « Reply #136 on: February 12, 2013, 09:53:53 AM »
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    JayneK is a sanctimonious pain in the behind. Is there a word that exists in the English lanugage that is of a higher degree to describe her, eh, sanctimony?

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    That is fair enough.  There is however no basis for calling me a crypto-Jew, as some have.


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    « Reply #137 on: February 12, 2013, 11:06:03 AM »
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    If having me be a member of a forum means it is a bad forum, you will have to apply that to CI as well.


    I didn't say SD was a bad forum because you're a member there.

    I thought your admonishment of me was rude, especially considering the fact that you chose to take the side of a Protestant over a Traditional Catholic.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #138 on: February 12, 2013, 03:34:42 PM »
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    If having me be a member of a forum means it is a bad forum, you will have to apply that to CI as well.


    I didn't say SD was a bad forum because you're a member there.

    I thought your admonishment of me was rude, especially considering the fact that you chose to take the side of a Protestant over a Traditional Catholic.


    I chose to take the side of a moderator over a person who did not respect his authority.  Respecting moderators is a thing I have.  If I noticed somebody dissing Matthew here I would probably do the same thing.

    Then again, Matthew is older and more established in being a moderator.  I would not have the same sense that he needed my support, so I might not.  At any rate, it would bother me to see someone disrespecting Matthew or any other moderator.  That is just how I am.

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    « Reply #139 on: February 12, 2013, 03:40:18 PM »
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  • I don't respect the fact that a Protestant was allowed to smear Traditional Catholicism.

    It's not that I don't respect the authority of SD's moderators. I don't respect the actions they took.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #140 on: February 12, 2013, 04:00:39 PM »
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    I don't respect the fact that a Protestant was allowed to smear Traditional Catholicism.

    It's not that I don't respect the authority of SD's moderators. I don't respect the actions they took.


    You interpreted events as a Protestant smearing traditional Catholicism.  That is not what I saw and that is not what the moderators saw.  Since they are the moderators, their judgment trumps yours.

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    « Reply #141 on: February 12, 2013, 05:01:43 PM »
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    I don't respect the fact that a Protestant was allowed to smear Traditional Catholicism.

    It's not that I don't respect the authority of SD's moderators. I don't respect the actions they took.


    You interpreted events as a Protestant smearing traditional Catholicism.  That is not what I saw and that is not what the moderators saw.  Since they are the moderators, their judgment trumps yours.


    The Admin stated he thought Vetus was attacking the "sedevacantist thesis", using your faulty and subjective reasoning, the admin trumps the mods and therefore it's safe to say Vetus Ordo attacked sedevacantism.
    Do you believe it is ok for a Protestant to publicly share his opinions on the Church, and attack your fellow Catholics on a Catholic forum?

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    « Reply #142 on: February 12, 2013, 05:10:59 PM »
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    I don't respect the fact that a Protestant was allowed to smear Traditional Catholicism.

    It's not that I don't respect the authority of SD's moderators. I don't respect the actions they took.


    You interpreted events as a Protestant smearing traditional Catholicism.  That is not what I saw and that is not what the moderators saw.  Since they are the moderators, their judgment trumps yours.


    The Admin stated he thought Vetus was attacking the "sedevacantist thesis", using your faulty and subjective reasoning, the admin trumps the mods and therefore it's safe to say Vetus Ordo attacked sedevacantism.
    Do you believe it is ok for a Protestant to publicly share his opinions on the Church, and attack your fellow Catholics on a Catholic forum?


    I thought his comments about Sedevacantism were accurate.  


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    « Reply #143 on: February 12, 2013, 05:14:54 PM »
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    I don't respect the fact that a Protestant was allowed to smear Traditional Catholicism.

    It's not that I don't respect the authority of SD's moderators. I don't respect the actions they took.


    You interpreted events as a Protestant smearing traditional Catholicism.  That is not what I saw and that is not what the moderators saw.  Since they are the moderators, their judgment trumps yours.


    The Admin stated he thought Vetus was attacking the "sedevacantist thesis", using your faulty and subjective reasoning, the admin trumps the mods and therefore it's safe to say Vetus Ordo attacked sedevacantism.
    Do you believe it is ok for a Protestant to publicly share his opinions on the Church, and attack your fellow Catholics on a Catholic forum?


    I thought his comments about Sedevacantism were accurate.  


    Would you mind answering the question posed to you in bold?

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    « Reply #144 on: February 12, 2013, 05:25:30 PM »
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    I don't respect the fact that a Protestant was allowed to smear Traditional Catholicism.

    It's not that I don't respect the authority of SD's moderators. I don't respect the actions they took.


    You interpreted events as a Protestant smearing traditional Catholicism.  That is not what I saw and that is not what the moderators saw.  Since they are the moderators, their judgment trumps yours.


    No, you need to understand that just because someone holds a higher authority, it does not mean their judgement automatically trumps someone else's.

    If they told you that it's ok to go into a ѕуηαgσgυє and pray with Jews (heresy!), would you tell them they're wrong, or would you "respect their authority" and consider their judgement to trump yours?

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    I thought his comments about Sedevacantism were accurate.


    Sedevacantism was not even being discussed on the thread. Furthermore, Vetus takes issue with both the sedevacantist position and the SSPX (sedeplenist) position. He thinks Traditional Catholicism itself is illogical.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #145 on: February 12, 2013, 05:31:37 PM »
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    I don't respect the fact that a Protestant was allowed to smear Traditional Catholicism.

    It's not that I don't respect the authority of SD's moderators. I don't respect the actions they took.


    You interpreted events as a Protestant smearing traditional Catholicism.  That is not what I saw and that is not what the moderators saw.  Since they are the moderators, their judgment trumps yours.


    The Admin stated he thought Vetus was attacking the "sedevacantist thesis", using your faulty and subjective reasoning, the admin trumps the mods and therefore it's safe to say Vetus Ordo attacked sedevacantism.
    Do you believe it is ok for a Protestant to publicly share his opinions on the Church, and attack your fellow Catholics on a Catholic forum?


    I thought his comments about Sedevacantism were accurate.  


    Would you mind answering the question posed to you in bold?


    On that forum people may share opinions on the Church within certain limits, regardless of their religion. The moderators determined that he was within those limits. I do not think that any forum posts should be personal attacks, regardless of the religions involved. As I recall, the posts in question were not personal attacks.


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    « Reply #146 on: February 12, 2013, 05:33:21 PM »
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    I do not think that any forum posts should be personal attacks, regardless of the religions involved. As I recall, the posts in question were not personal attacks.


    Vetus accusing me of "heresy" was not a personal attack?
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #147 on: February 12, 2013, 05:39:33 PM »
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    I don't respect the fact that a Protestant was allowed to smear Traditional Catholicism.

    It's not that I don't respect the authority of SD's moderators. I don't respect the actions they took.


    You interpreted events as a Protestant smearing traditional Catholicism.  That is not what I saw and that is not what the moderators saw.  Since they are the moderators, their judgment trumps yours.


    The Admin stated he thought Vetus was attacking the "sedevacantist thesis", using your faulty and subjective reasoning, the admin trumps the mods and therefore it's safe to say Vetus Ordo attacked sedevacantism.
    Do you believe it is ok for a Protestant to publicly share his opinions on the Church, and attack your fellow Catholics on a Catholic forum?


    I thought his comments about Sedevacantism were accurate.  


    Would you mind answering the question posed to you in bold?


    On that forum people may share opinions on the Church within certain limits, regardless of their religion. The moderators determined that he was within those limits. I do not think that any forum posts should be personal attacks, regardless of the religions involved. As I recall, the posts in question were not personal attacks.


    Thank you for sharing all of these arbitrary factoids and opinions with me, but if you don't mind, I'd still appreciate an answer to the aforementioned question.

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    « Reply #148 on: February 12, 2013, 05:42:32 PM »
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    I do not think that any forum posts should be personal attacks, regardless of the religions involved. As I recall, the posts in question were not personal attacks.


    Vetus accusing me of "heresy" was not a personal attack?


    A personal attack would be something like telling you that you are stupid and whiney. It is about personal qualities.  To describe a person`s ideas as heretical is not a personal attack.  It is discussing ideas.  

    I do not remember the details of the discussion and I do not care enough about it to look it up.  

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    « Reply #149 on: February 12, 2013, 05:43:53 PM »
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  • Calling someone a heretic without proof is a serious error, Jaynek.

    Vetus is guilty of heresy because he's a Protestant, and all Protestants are heretics. But you can't accuse a Catholic of heresy without proof. You should not have defended a Protestant over a Catholic.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.