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Offline Renzo

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« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2013, 01:36:09 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matto
    My computer broke a couple of days ago. It was a Macbook from several years ago. Now I need a new computer and so I am asking for advice on which kind I should get. I don't know anything about computers and I don't want to. All I ever use it for is the internet so I do not need to get a high-tech one. And most importantly I want it to be simple to use because I am not good at working with complicated computers. I cannot afford another Mac computer because they are too expensive and I do not want to buy a used computer for fear that it would break or just not work right. I don't have much money, so the computer must be very inexpensive. Any advice is appreciated.

    Oh yeah, it has to be a laptop.

    Hopefully you will have some good advice. Thanks.

    P.S. I know this isn't the best forum to ask about computers, but I am asking here anyway. I am also looking elsewhere for advice too.


    I agree with a lot of the posts on here about the loss of privacy, independence and loss of power that can result from that.  Also, lots of interesting shopping experiences folks have shared in this thread.  

    In regards to the samsung lap top from google, i'd avoid that particular lap top, because it uses a samsung processor, instead of an intel processor.  The other chromebooks look fine.  The concept seems interesting.  It reminds me of how apple used to present itself.  They also have a desktop model.  

    I guess you don't want to get the mini mac, because it's 600 bucks, but mine is eight years old and still runs like a champ.  Of course I've done some minor maintenance and the keyboard has "disintegrated," but i can't see any reason to replace the computer, other than maybe a newer one would run faster, but from what i saw at the apple store, i don't know if that is even true.  (they recently fixed a problem i was having on my computer at the apple bar for free, even though the warranty expired years ago, but i did have to bring it in for them to do that)  

    Only real downside i have with the old one is i can't use the newest flash player.  So, i suppose they'll get me on that eventually, but it's a shame, because it's going to seem like a real waste of money.  

       
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    « Reply #46 on: March 27, 2013, 05:38:42 AM »
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  • There's also good news:


    26 March 2013

    Secure Boot complaint filed against Microsoft

    Hispalinux[1], an 8,000 strong Spanish association of Linux users and developers, has filed a complaint with the Madrid office of the European Commission claiming, according to a Reuters[2] report, that Windows 8 contains an "obstruction mechanism" called UEFI Secure Boot. This mechanism, it says, controls the system boot up and means users must seek keys from Microsoft to install another operating system.

    Hispalinux head, lawyer Jose Maria Lancho, told the news agency that it was "absolutely anti-competitive" and a "de facto technological jail for computer booting systems". The complaint[3] says that although Microsoft says UEFI Secure Boot is a security measure, its implementation would not mean the end of malware and viruses.

    The complaint comes just over three weeks after the EU Competition Chief Joaquin Almunia said, in a written answer[4] to parliamentary questions, that the "Commission is monitoring the implementation of the Microsoft Windows 8 security requirements. The Commission is however currently not in possession of evidence suggesting that the Windows 8 security requirements would result in practices in violation of EU competition rules".

    UEFI Secure Boot is a mechanism that was added to the UEFI firmware and uses keys registered in firmware to check a digital signature on any operating system's bootloader and kernel to ensure that they have not been tampered with. The idea is to avoid situations where malware modifies the operating system or boot process itself as part of its camouflage mechanisms. Microsoft requires that machines sold with Windows 8 pre-installed are configured to use this mechanism to validate the operating system. This means that machines with Windows 8 have Microsoft's key registered in the firmware and, with no other operating system vendor offering a similar key, it is the only key that comes on most of these machines.

    Booting another operating system on these machines would, therefore, mean disabling secure boot, adding a key for validation of the other operating system to the firmware, or getting the bootloader for the operating system signed by Microsoft. The first two options are paths that Microsoft requires vendors implement on x86-based systems, although there are no common or standard ways of implementing the features.

    Therefore, Linux vendors such as Red Hat, SUSE and Canonical, and the Linux Foundation all looked at approaches where a bootloader or pre-bootloader was signed by Microsoft and would go on to load Linux once booted and verified. This would, the vendors believed, give users an easier way to install Linux on any arbitrary Windows 8 pre-installed PC system.

    These solutions require Microsoft to sign the bootloader and have reinforced the Free Software Foundation's objections[5] to what it has dubbed "Restricted Boot". The Hispalinux complaint appears to follow the FSF's reasoning and seems to request a simple way for consumers to disable or override Secure Boot. But, as the Commissioner notes: "In particular, on the basis of the information currently available to the Commission it appears that the OEMs are required to give end users the option to disable the UEFI secure boot". It may be that this case will hinge on whether the Commission continues to feel that this is sufficient.

    URL of this Article:
    http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Secure-Boot-complaint-filed-against-Microsoft-1830714.html

    Links in this Article:
    [1] http://www.hispalinux.es/
    [2] http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/26/us-microsoft-eu-idUSBRE92P0E120130326
    [3] http://www.hispalinux.es/node/758
    [4] http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getAllAnswers.do?reference=E-2013-000162&language=EN
    [5] http://www.h-online.com/news/item/FSF-warns-of-Windows-8-Secure-Boot-1363531.html


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    « Reply #47 on: March 27, 2013, 12:04:45 PM »
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  • Thinkpads have a good reputation.

    Offline Renzo

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    « Reply #48 on: March 27, 2013, 01:04:35 PM »
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  • You've got me thinking about the acer, for 200 bucks.  I've never used anything but a desktop and laptops are notorious for breaking down, but acer's got a decent track record, and consumer reports seems to like the netbooks.  Sounds like it might come in handy.  Although, i'd have to buy a wireless router to use it and i don't know about all those "waves" in my house  :tinfoil:

    Also, after being "weaned" on macs, i hate windows with a passion, that borders on insanity!  :really-mad2:
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    « Reply #49 on: March 27, 2013, 04:34:26 PM »
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    You've got me thinking about the acer, for 200 bucks.  I've never used anything but a desktop and laptops are notorious for breaking down, but acer's got a decent track record, and consumer reports seems to like the netbooks.  Sounds like it might come in handy.  Although, i'd have to buy a wireless router to use it and i don't know about all those "waves" in my house  :tinfoil:


    Actually the Acer C7 has both WiFi and an Ethernet port.


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    « Reply #50 on: March 28, 2013, 08:43:51 AM »
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  • Do not buy Acer, it supports the gay agenda. And most of the computers ship Windows.
    My choice was a nice Asus laptop with AMD CPU and GPU + FreeDOS. You can install Linux on it, of course.

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    « Reply #51 on: March 28, 2013, 03:37:14 PM »
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    Do not buy Acer, it supports the gay agenda. And most of the computers ship Windows.
    My choice was a nice Asus laptop with AMD CPU and GPU + FreeDOS. You can install Linux on it, of course.


    Okay. Not necessarily doubting you, but what is your source for "Acer supports the gay agenda?" I have trouble believing a Taiwanese company would get involved with "PC" social issues. This seems to be more of an American and "Euro" thing. And, when I do a Google search for "Acer supports gay agenda" (without the quotes), the results come back to CathInfo and your post.

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    « Reply #52 on: March 28, 2013, 08:36:04 PM »
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  • Quote from: Pelly
    Do not buy Acer, it supports the gay agenda. And most of the computers ship Windows.
    My choice was a nice Asus laptop with AMD CPU and GPU + FreeDOS. You can install Linux on it, of course.


    Wait, Pelly is male? Or...?


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    « Reply #53 on: March 29, 2013, 01:48:45 AM »
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  • I would recommend a a laptop with the following specs:
    Intel CPU (i3 or i5)
    4GB RAM or more
    250GB hard drive (or 120GB SSD) or larger
    15-16" display
    Windows 7 64bit

    I like Lenovo, Asus, Sony and Dell (best first).  Laptops that meet these requirements can still be found under $500 and should last many years.

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    « Reply #54 on: March 29, 2013, 09:58:04 AM »
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  • Hi tomd, and welcome to the forums!
    Since you are new here, I'd like to put things clear:
    it is better to use an used computer from a garage sale, but if you want a new computer, then these specs are not for the Catholic. My specs for a new computer would be:
    AMD Sempron (servers need Athlon or the like)
    and anything but not Windows.
    I've found a very nice ASUS laptop with AMD CPU and GPU... and it doesn't come with Windows! But be careful, it has FreeDOS, which is hard to use. Don't worry, you can always make a Linux install CD or DVD or USB.


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    « Reply #55 on: April 02, 2013, 09:13:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: Pelly
    Hi tomd, and welcome to the forums!
    Since you are new here, I'd like to put things clear:
    it is better to use an used computer from a garage sale, but if you want a new computer, then these specs are not for the Catholic. My specs for a new computer would be:
    AMD Sempron (servers need Athlon or the like)
    and anything but not Windows.
    I've found a very nice ASUS laptop with AMD CPU and GPU... and it doesn't come with Windows! But be careful, it has FreeDOS, which is hard to use. Don't worry, you can always make a Linux install CD or DVD or USB.



    Thank you for the warm welcome.

    Why is it better to buy a used computer from a garage sale?

    What is wrong with the specs I listed?

    AMD CPUs are inferior to Intel CPUs.  What is the problem with Intel?  The Core technology in the current i3,i5 and i7 CPUs blow all comparable AMD CPUs out of the water.  AMD had some good CPUs in the past but have not been competitive since Intel was producing Pentium 4 CPUs.

    Semprons are underpowered and only used in the lowest of low-end laptops.  It would be beneficial to spend a bit more and get just about anything else.


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    « Reply #56 on: June 13, 2013, 04:33:53 AM »
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  • In the PRISM thread Johnah asked:
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    As far as OS goes, I have always used Windows, but maybe I should start using open source. From where should I start?


    And I linked to here, but now see that maybe the OS question wasn't truly answered here?

    So my personal recommendation to Jonah would be: you could try Xubuntu, which is an official derivative of the famous Ubuntu Linux but with the efficient XFCE desktop.
    Ubuntu is very easy to install and easy to use, and has a huge software base (software center). It's actually easier to install and use than for example Windows-8.
    Whilst Ubuntu's desktop unfortunately approaches that strange smartphone movement (which Windows-8 tries to bring to the desktop and fails), Xubuntu brings back the classic desktop we know.

    Here it is: http://www.xubuntu.org/

    You could also use the OpenSource software Virtualbox do run various Open-Source OS'es in a guest window on your host OS. And then decide which one you're going to use: http://www.virtualbox.org/

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    « Reply #57 on: June 13, 2013, 03:32:38 PM »
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  • I repeat, do not use Intel. They're backing the radical gay movement. Okay, even AMD supports them, but they're less dangerous than Intel. I suggest buying an used computer before UEFI comes. (Also, a question: Why do you shun UEFI? Okay, secure boot will restrict you to Windows, but this can be circumvented.)

     

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