Author Topic: Youre a geocentrist? (Read 37541 times)

Vandaler · « **Reply #15 on:** December 21, 2011, 11:52:17 AM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

I shall forego your choices and tell you I am a geocentrist...as it is the only truly reasonable position to hold.

Niribu's hypothetical path is based on an orbit around the sun in full compliance with heliocentrism.

That's what happens when you adopt all contrarian views without discernment. Aleniation and non-sense. Sorry buddy, you need a bit of tough love.

Sigismund · « **Reply #16 on:** December 21, 2011, 10:12:10 PM »

My general response as requested at the beginning of this tread, not a response to Cupertino's post.

pax · « **Reply #17 on:** December 22, 2011, 08:52:45 AM »

So, nobody wants to touch that docuмent from the Holy Office, eh?

The old adage is true! Opinion trumps fact every time.

Spork · « **Reply #18 on:** December 22, 2011, 05:59:50 PM »

:applause:

Man of the West · « **Reply #19 on:** December 22, 2011, 06:12:08 PM »

Spork,

That's one of the coolest names and avatars I've ever seen. Props, yo.

Sigismund · « **Reply #20 on:** December 22, 2011, 09:49:15 PM »

Indeed it is, and a great avatar.

DoubtingThomas · « **Reply #21 on:** October 26, 2012, 02:12:42 PM »

Quote from: pax

The proposition that the Sun is the center of the world and does not move from its place is absurd and false philosophically and formally heretical, because it is expressly contrary to Holy Scripture.

The proposition that the Earth is not the center of the world and immovable but that it moves, and also with a diurnal motion, is equally absurd and false philosophically and theologically considered at least erroneous in faith.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/galileo/condemnation.html

Interesting...

I believe 100% in geocentrism.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #22 on:** October 26, 2012, 03:41:23 PM »

I believe that a inertial frame of reference in which all things revolve about the Earth is perfectly valid but then I believe the same of any point in four-dimensional space. I do not, however, believe that the model of Brahe, or any other model depicting the Earth in a fixed position in absolute space, is correct.

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #23 on:** October 26, 2012, 03:47:30 PM »

Mr. Sungenis shows how the neo-Tychonic model of the universe is the same as that of heliocentrism. Also, he shows the unanimous teaching of the Fathers that the earth is absolutely motionless. Are you going against them or against Trent for that matter?

roscoe · « **Reply #24 on:** October 26, 2012, 03:58:52 PM »

Both S & E are in motion. There is no physical center of U

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #25 on:** October 26, 2012, 04:01:43 PM »

roscoe, so you're a relativist?

Then you go simply against Scripture, the Fathers of the Church, the Council of Trent, etc. Sungenis has thoroughly blasted relativity in his great scientific work.

roscoe · « **Reply #26 on:** October 26, 2012, 04:47:00 PM »

Sungenis believes S rev around E. Sungenis denies Newtons theory of Gravity. Sungenis does not know that in truth, Galileo was condemned for his atomic quantum physical theories as much as for the 2 out of 3 false astronomical articles of Copernicus

All modern satellite communications are based on the idea that E rev around S. The fact that they work is proof that Copernicus was at least correct in one article of the 3 that comprise his system--- that E rev around S.

http://www.firstjesuits.wordpress.com

roscoe · « **Reply #27 on:** October 26, 2012, 05:01:56 PM »

The Copernican idea that E rev around S is used in his Pruthenic tables--- which reckonings are incorporated into the Gregorian Calendar. IOW-- Pope Gregory XIII had no prob with the idea that E rev around S.

If anyone has the work of Benedict XV (15?) on this subject pls post.

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #28 on:** October 26, 2012, 05:10:33 PM »

So you believe atheistic scientists over the Church Fathers, Trent, Scripture, and evidence that Earth is at the center of the universe? Figures, since you always seemed to be an oddball here. Believing an occultist over the Church Fathers is very unbecoming of a Catholic. You don't understand that Sungenis uses Newton to support geocentrism. You haven't even read Sungenis or read him very superficially. In any event, the official 1633 condemnations of Galileo are sufficient for me over a mere layman's opinion like yours. Geocentrism is Church doctrine which has never been overturned and believed for at least 1800 years.

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #29 on:** October 26, 2012, 05:29:08 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

The Copernican idea that E rev around S is used in his Pruthenic tables--- which reckonings are incorporated into the Gregorian Calendar. IOW-- Pope Gregory XIII had no prob with the idea that E rev around S.

If anyone has the work of Benedict XV (15?) on this subject pls post.

Only because it didn't go to the critical issue it became in the early 1600s. In any case, Trent condemned going against the unanimous consent of the Fathers.