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Offline TheRealMcCoy

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Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2024, 06:23:30 PM »
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  • God hasn't revealed my calling yet, but that doesn't necessarily bother me. As for an example of a good marriage, I have no clue because everyone I have known growing up who is married has constant issues with their marriage. So I'm afraid to get married within the SSPX knowing that.. :/
    So are you saying your parents did not give a good example?


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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #46 on: April 30, 2024, 06:34:04 PM »
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  • I don't know about your generation, but since I attended a society school I can tell you from personal experience that the people there looked down on others who simply wanted to be presentable and be in shape. I can't even make this up how many times I have seen this happen within the parish, especially among the girls there. The SSPX has its issues, such as BOD, which is honestly a big red flag. I just fear that the men at the SSPX, not only can't lift weights, but don't know anything about the faith, since they never take a step back and question the teachings of BOD. :facepalm:
    I go to an SSPX mass but don't consider myself aligned to any particular group, while I don't believe in BoD I cant speak for others since I don't ask them. If you are concerned with what the men at your chapel believe you have no choice but to ask them and see for yourself.

    As for lifting weights, should a man go to a public gym to keep himself fit if that means putting himself in the occasion of sin? Because women at gyms dress extremely scandalously, no matter how strong the male's mind is he will eventually sin because the devil and concupiscence are stronger than him. Personally I won't risk my soul on this (and the saints say that only cowards are victorious over sins of impurity), and am waiting until I have my own house and home gym before I start taking my exercise seriously again, for now it's just very basic stuff.

    Just something to keep in mind.



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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #47 on: April 30, 2024, 06:48:55 PM »
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  • Well if you know any men like that, who also doesnt believe in BOD or Bergolio, let me know. And when I mean work out, I literally just mean healthy, which for some reason, its super hard to find.
    Because over 50% of adults are overweight in western countries. In Australia that number is 70%.

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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #48 on: April 30, 2024, 08:02:58 PM »
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  • I go to an SSPX mass but don't consider myself aligned to any particular group, while I don't believe in BoD I cant speak for others since I don't ask them. If you are concerned with what the men at your chapel believe you have no choice but to ask them and see for yourself.

    As for lifting weights, should a man go to a public gym to keep himself fit if that means putting himself in the occasion of sin? Because women at gyms dress extremely scandalously, no matter how strong the male's mind is he will eventually sin because the devil and concupiscence are stronger than him. Personally I won't risk my soul on this (and the saints say that only cowards are victorious over sins of impurity), and am waiting until I have my own house and home gym before I start taking my exercise seriously again, for now it's just very basic stuff.

    Just something to keep in mind.

    Gyms are one of the most unsanitary places, second to water parks. You don't have to have a gym membership to be fit, you don't even need an at-home gym. You can do little things to stay in shape, for example, when you're out in public, instead of taking an escalator or an elevator take the stairs, it's good for your heart and its cardio. You can buy dumbbells, it's a better and cheaper investment than spending money continuously on a membership. Go for an early morning jog (when you know no one is out), where there will be no women out to bother you.

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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #49 on: April 30, 2024, 08:10:17 PM »
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  • So are you saying your parents did not give a good example?
    I am talking about the way my generation is, not my parent's generation. Things were different back then. Marriage isn't sunshine and rainbows constantly, it's not about trying to seek perfection but trying to minimize the risk of issues that could happen somewhere down the line, and that's what my parents taught me.


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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #50 on: April 30, 2024, 08:22:18 PM »
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  • Gyms are one of the most unsanitary places, second to water parks. You don't have to have a gym membership to be fit, you don't even need an at-home gym. You can do little things to stay in shape, for example, when you're out in public, instead of taking an escalator or an elevator take the stairs, it's good for your heart and its cardio. You can buy dumbbells, it's a better and cheaper investment than spending money continuously on a membership. Go for an early morning jog (when you know no one is out), where there will be no women out to bother you.
    Can you define what you mean by 'fit'?

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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #51 on: April 30, 2024, 08:47:24 PM »
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  • When I meant college I didn't mean gender studies, I meant real jobs that require a degree. I agree that college is a scam 90% of the time, but what I was trying to say is that I just want me and my future potential husband to be ready for the future. I don't know about other women, but for myself, I just hate the thought of my kids struggling financially.
    The brainwashing is not just in gender studies, but permeates all subjects and the atmosphere. I don’t believe that it will prepare a woman for marriage, which seems to be what you are contemplating.

    Regarding your hating the thought of your prospective kids struggling financially, there are many people who think like you.

    I am of the opposite opinion.

    My three children all worked in menial jobs while still in homeschooling, all three did a crash course in a trade of their interest while still homeschooling, all three had to move far from home at 17 to pursue their living. They always had to contribute to household work and expenses while they were still at home. 

    All three are happy, mature and balanced, all happy in the vocation they chose of the own volition. 

    Today, many people are damagingly protective of their children. They need to struggle in order to grow in understanding of life in this valley of tears.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #52 on: April 30, 2024, 08:54:25 PM »
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  • Can you define what you mean by 'fit'?
    Are you asking about my preference or scientifically?


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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #53 on: April 30, 2024, 09:05:39 PM »
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  • The brainwashing is not just in gender studies, but permeates all subjects and the atmosphere. I don’t believe that it will prepare a woman for marriage, which seems to be what you are contemplating.

    Regarding your hating the thought of your prospective kids struggling financially, there are many people who think like you.

    I am of the opposite opinion.

    My three children all worked in menial jobs while still in homeschooling, all three did a crash course in a trade of their interest while still homeschooling, all three had to move far from home at 17 to pursue their living. They always had to contribute to household work and expenses while they were still at home.

    All three are happy, mature and balanced, all happy in the vocation they chose of the own volition.

    Today, many people are damagingly protective of their children. They need to struggle in order to grow in understanding of life in this valley of tears.
    ^^^^ what she said. CULTIVATION OF VIRTUE

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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #54 on: April 30, 2024, 09:56:40 PM »
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  • Are you asking about my preference or scientifically?
    What do you consider 'fit'? A man could be strong in lifting weights but get tired from a short sprint etc. Or someone could have good endurance but have 'weak' strength.

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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #55 on: April 30, 2024, 10:06:53 PM »
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  • Can you define what you mean by 'fit'?
    What did Jesus do?
    What did Blessed Mary do?
    None of Them were fat nor were they even slightly overweight. Both of them were lean and healthy and able to perform the physical rigors of daily life. Be like Jesus and Blessed Mary.

    Every healthy person is fit but not every fit person is healthy.
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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #56 on: April 30, 2024, 10:09:08 PM »
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  • Today, many people are damagingly protective of their children. They need to struggle in order to grow in understanding of life in this valley of tears.
    This is so true.
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #57 on: April 30, 2024, 10:15:45 PM »
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  • Again, I've seen too many marriages where people end up super unhappy NOT EVEN a year later, so that's why I'm completely turned off by it. And I think it's pretty rational to want a guy with financial security.
    The two necessities for marriage:
    1) The potential spouse must help the other get to Heaven
    2) The potential spouse must love the other

    Everything else is added assurance and insurance (for the holy union of man and woman not to be scarred by "divorce", separation, infighting, etc.

    Indeed, financial security is very important, and I understand why women want/need it (in a temporal sense but still not required by God) for them to get married.
    Dan shall be a serpent in the way, a viper by the path, that bites the horse's heels so his rider falls backward. ~ Genesis 49:17

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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #58 on: April 30, 2024, 10:25:25 PM »
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  • What do you consider 'fit'? A man could be strong in lifting weights but get tired from a short sprint etc. Or someone could have good endurance but have 'weak' strength.
    Fit to me is just being healthy, eating healthy, staying in shape, and having a healthy heart. A man who can lift weights but gets tired by a short sprint is unhealthy, it doesn't matter if he is ripped. I'd be concerned about his heart health, probably too much cholesterol in his diet. 

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    Re: Young Catholics are being pressured...
    « Reply #59 on: May 01, 2024, 05:30:22 AM »
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  • If I want to get married I want a guy with a job, a house, and financial security, is that too much to ask? I’m not asking for millions, I’m asking for a home that we can stay in forever, money for our kids to feed them and to go to college and pursue what God wanted for them. NONE of the guys at my parish are interested or even have the care to work out or be fit.
    1-) Job: sure, the husband should have a job.

    2-) House: maybe in the US things are different, but in southern European countries and Latin America, none of my catholic friends owned a house at the time they married. They can make ends meet, are hardworking, etc. But if owning a house were a requirement for marriage, many (not to say most) would marry when their fertile days were over.

    3-) Financial security: what is that supposed to mean? Being able to make ends meet or accuмulate assets? I mean, are we to work hard and trust providence, or accuмulate wealth? From where I come, financial security is the #1 reason why pagans delay marriage.

    4-) Work out and be fit: fair enough, but bear in mind that for many young men going to the gym is not an option to seriously consider. If they work out moderately at home or parks, they'll be fine. But don't expect a "jacked" appearance.