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Offline lapetitefleur

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« on: February 13, 2018, 10:01:25 AM »
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  • I am not sure if there is a post on this, but I was wondering if it is permissible for a woman to attend a yoga class that is solely for exercise. I should ask a priest, but probably won't get around to it today. I have been stressed out lately with toddlers and expecting again (lack of sleep, naturally), and I would like to just get out of the house once during the week to do something for myself and keep me from becoming angry with the children. Obviously if I sensed the remotest bit of 'spiritual garbage' in the class, I would leave, but it seems to just be an exercise class. When I first converted I would have said absolutely no to yoga, but now am really needing an hour to myself and to just stretch my muscles! Please let me know if you have heard a priest's opinion on the matter. Thanks!

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 10:23:35 AM »
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  • I'm guessing that you should probably take more than just ONCE a week to get out.

    I don't know enough about yoga to know if there are any spiritual aspects to it, but some Eastern stuff is really more their approach to science than anything actually spiritual (just comes across as spiritual in the West).

    Can't you do something else, though, to stretch your muscles?  Perhaps go to a gym (provided it's not an occasion of sin).  Perhaps go running (if the weather permits).

    I know that it's important for a mother to get out and be by herself from time to time.


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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 10:54:00 AM »
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  • Yoga is a not something a catholic should be doing in any way shape or form.

    "A secure mind is like a continual feast" - Proverbs xv: 15

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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 10:58:50 AM »
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  • You're fine.

    What you would be doing isn't even actually yoga. Don't believe radtrads who say that you are worshiping Hindu gods. First of all, yoga doesn't belong to one religion. It's a praxis that is shared by various systems some of which are atheistic and don't even have a concept of gods or worship. What you call yoga here in America is actually mainly of European origin and has practically nothing to do with yoga the way it would have been understood by real yogic practitioners in the past.

    Read these articles:

    https://www.yogajournal.com/yoga-101/yoga-s-greater-truth

    https://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/iyengar-invention-yoga

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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #4 on: February 13, 2018, 11:02:13 AM »
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  • Yoga is incompatible with Catholicism. Cited below are 15 reasons why Catholics should not practice Yoga:

    15 Arguments on the Danger of Yoga
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #5 on: February 13, 2018, 11:03:29 AM »
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  • True yoga is definitely spiritual and definitely occultish.  In theory, many of yoga's stretches and poses are typical exercise stretches and there's no problem with them.  Some of the stretches/poses are definitely satanic.

    My question is, are there yoga places where the exercise/stretching aspect is the main focus without all the eastern spirituality mumbo-jumbo?  I don't know, but maybe there are.  I would think these are ok to attend.  But I would do some research and educate yourself on why yoga is dangerous so you know if things start creeping into the class.

    Just like martial arts, in general, the danger is the 'meditation/chanting' aspect, not the physical movements.

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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #6 on: February 13, 2018, 11:06:03 AM »
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  • I won't do yoga, but find that Pilates has similar health benefits.  It developed from a form of medical therapy and does not have any historical associations with non-Catholic spirituality.

    (I am pretty excited to be called a rad trad.  It does not happen to me often.)
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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #7 on: February 13, 2018, 11:08:38 AM »
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  • I know many women who love Pilates.


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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #8 on: February 13, 2018, 04:02:48 PM »
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  • I am not sure if there is a post on this, but I was wondering if it is permissible for a woman to attend a yoga class that is solely for exercise. I should ask a priest, but probably won't get around to it today. I have been stressed out lately with toddlers and expecting again (lack of sleep, naturally), and I would like to just get out of the house once during the week to do something for myself and keep me from becoming angry with the children. Obviously if I sensed the remotest bit of 'spiritual garbage' in the class, I would leave, but it seems to just be an exercise class. When I first converted I would have said absolutely no to yoga, but now am really needing an hour to myself and to just stretch my muscles! Please let me know if you have heard a priest's opinion on the matter. Thanks!

    Yoga is not an efficient means of burning fat and building muscle or cardio fitness. That's just a fact.



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    Perhaps go running (if the weather permits).

    Short of a tornado, lightening or ice storm in real time, ain't nothin' should stop a person from running, if the person is serious about improving their health and staying consistent. I've run in (negative) -18 degree temps (factoring in wind) and I've run with snow on the ground. I've also raced bicycles in rain for over 60 miles while water was getting shot up in my face from the rear wheel of the other bike in front of me.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #9 on: February 14, 2018, 01:20:14 AM »
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  • Running is not necessarily recommended for pregnant women. Maybe brisk walking or swimming. This is good question for the women only section.
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    Are you also looking for a pleasant social interlude? Is there a local craft or other women's group who welcomes people just for a chat.

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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #10 on: February 14, 2018, 04:33:29 AM »
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  • I am not sure if there is a post on this, but I was wondering if it is permissible for a woman to attend a yoga class that is solely for exercise. I should ask a priest, but probably won't get around to it today. I have been stressed out lately with toddlers and expecting again (lack of sleep, naturally), and I would like to just get out of the house once during the week to do something for myself and keep me from becoming angry with the children. Obviously if I sensed the remotest bit of 'spiritual garbage' in the class, I would leave, but it seems to just be an exercise class. When I first converted I would have said absolutely no to yoga, but now am really needing an hour to myself and to just stretch my muscles! Please let me know if you have heard a priest's opinion on the matter. Thanks!
    Yeah, you don't want "mother fatigue."  That's bad stuff.  I think we (trads) have a tendency to be perfectionists.  I've seen moms spend way too much time with kids out of guilt and start to lose it.  Not a good situation for anybody.  Even just an hour or two every 12-24 hours, I think,  makes a big difference.  
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    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."


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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #11 on: February 14, 2018, 04:41:50 AM »
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  • I don't know about the religious aspect (tend to think American Yoga is pretty tame, like martial arts classes usually are), but I've seen the huge benefits to people who practice it.  Excellent mobility and range of motion for their age, plus great posture.  Working on your breathing too;  that's big.  I'd want to get involved (if I had time and may do it anyway).  I know a guy who used to teach yoga and he's in amazing physical condition for his age.  No, I'd expect the biggest risk in yoga classes would be immodesty!  :o  Gym classes with women are terrible.  Of course that may not be as big a problem for you as it would be for me!  ha ha  
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    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #12 on: February 14, 2018, 08:02:28 AM »
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  • I would say it is not a good idea. I'm pregnant with 2 toddlers as well. I empathize with you so much on this! I'm feeling the same way.

    While many of the yoga classes today don't emphasize spiritualality, the pagan roots still remain. Not all yoga positions represent pagan ideas, but many of them do, even if the instructor has learned them being non- spiritual themselves. Part of yoga is the practice of breathing in which many instructors will encourage people to empty their minds and become x, y, z ( I forget exactly what they say).

    One might go to the class and just simply ignore that nonsense, but that, I tend to believe, is just falling for a coy trick of the Devil. It's in these seemingly small things that we imagine to be innocent that we give the demonic consent to come on in. By participating in a class built on the foundation of paganism, despite our good intentions, we are opening ourselves up to demonic influence.

    My sister used to teach yoga, and she is about as non spiritual as they come. I whole heartedly believe that it is dangerous based on the effects I observed it had on her, but more importantly because at its root, it is not compatible with Catholic belief.

    Maybe you would like Pilates, as others have mentioned?

    My husband and I recently made a commitment that when there is a little more daylight, we will make time in the evening for me to go on a 45 minute excercize excursion at least 3 times a week, which for me will include brisk walking and stretches before and after. A brisk walk never fails to liven my spirits!

    I agree that it's absolutely important that you get out to exercise to help your mind and soul be at it's best, but please don't fall into the yoga trap!
    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
    ~James 1:27

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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #13 on: February 14, 2018, 08:39:10 AM »
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  • Yoga is not an efficient means of burning fat and building muscle or cardio fitness. That's just a fact.

    Right, but that's not why people do yoga ... to burn fat and build muscle/cardio.

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    Re: Yoga
    « Reply #14 on: February 14, 2018, 08:41:06 AM »
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  • Short of a tornado, lightening or ice storm in real time, ain't nothin' should stop a person from running, if the person is serious about improving their health and staying consistent. I've run in (negative) -18 degree temps (factoring in wind) and I've run with snow on the ground. I've also raced bicycles in rain for over 60 miles while water was getting shot up in my face from the rear wheel of the other bike in front of me.

    But not everybody can do that.  Give yourself a pat on the back (oh, I see that you already have) ... but other people have to decide what they can and can't do.

     

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