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XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
« on: December 12, 2021, 10:13:29 AM »
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    • There is no way that it is just one person posting all of those threads by XavierSem the last few days, and for sure XavierSem is not the same person as Nishant of 7 years ago. Anyone that does a cursory investigation of Nishant's personality 7 years ago, will quickly and clearly see why I say it is not the same person as XavierSem today. The reputation scores clearly confirm what I am saying, but if anyone does not believe me, just go back and read what the real Nishant was writing 7 years ago.

    Below is just one example, here we have Nishant 7 years ago answering Ladislaus and clearly explaining his position on salvation by implicit faith. Nothing there to debate about, he clearly, honestly and lucidly agrees with Ladislaus. Tell me how that could be the same person as XavierSem today? No way!  :



    Catholic Faith or implicit faith?
    « Reply #28 on: January 05, 2015, 11:18:41 PM »
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    Ladislaus wrote:
    But you have to understand that I am calling the OPINION objectively heretical.  I have no authority to raise it into the category of formal heresy.  If I were a priest, for instance, and knew that you believed in implicit faith theory, I would not refuse you communion on my own authority. I believe the opinion to be objectively heretical, and I will argue that until my dying breath.

    Response from Nishant
    Excellent. Given these clarifications, I now agree entirely with your position, Ladislaus. Remember likewise that the Church tolerated for a long time the false opinion and objective heresy that Mary was conceived in original sin before formally condemning it. In the meanwhile, many universities took solemn vows to defend this sacred dogma to their last breath, and would not admit students or professors who would not swear to do the same. Thanks partly to this, theological study soon reached the point where the objections to the true opinion were answered, it was dogmatically defined after repeated calls for the same, and the false opinion was formally condemned by the Church as heresy. If any man were to call it into question today, he would become a heretic.

    I think we agree that one of the most urgent things the Church must do is formally condemn this error. In hindsight, we can see that Vatican II could not have happened as it did had salvation by implicit faith and without the Catholic Faith been condemned by the extraordinary Magisterium. Fenton defended it after Suprema Haec, but he gave up defending it after Vatican II. The defenders of implicit faith have no objection to Jєωs and pagans being saved.

    Quote from: Fr. Garrigou Lagrange

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    Further, among non-Christians (Jєωs, Mohammedans, pagans) there are souls which are elect. Jєωs and Mohammedans not only admit monotheism, but retain fragments of primitive revelation and of Mosaic revelation. They believe in a God who is a supernatural rewarder, and can thus, with the aid of grace, make an act of contrition. And even to pagans, who live in invincible, involuntary ignorance of the true religion, and who still attempt to observe the natural law, supernatural aids are offered, by means known to God.”

    This is no different from what Lugo said and what Nado believes. Here's how the new Catechism puts it, in its explanation of EENS, citing Vatican II,

    Quote from: CCC

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    847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.337

    848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."338


    What is "the faith without which it is impossible to please Him"? Is it the faith that God exists and rewards? Or the Catholic Faith? Tradition says the latter.


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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #1 on: December 12, 2021, 10:46:06 AM »
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    • Where are all of the capital letters?  
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #2 on: December 12, 2021, 10:50:47 AM »
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    • I know I disagreed with the other thread on this, but after reading through the Nishant account and Xavier Sem's old posts, I agree that they are nothing alike. This post is a perfect example of that. 
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #3 on: December 12, 2021, 01:11:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nishant Xavier on December 12, 2021, 12:27:02 PM
     the Truth is I am Nishant, and Nishant Xavier. 
    Are you saying that Nishant Xavier and  XavierSem are the same person that called himself Nishant on Cathinfo 7 years ago? 
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #4 on: December 12, 2021, 01:33:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nishant Xavier on December 12, 2021, 01:31:25 PM
    Why are you focused on minutiae and not on Doctrinal Truth?

    Do you hold the Augustinian Doctrine (all who receive BOD will also receive Water Baptism, as St. Cornelius did in Acts) or the Dimondite position (there is no Baptism of Desire and it is heretical to believe in BOD)?

    I hold the Augustinian. I reject the Dimondite.

    It would not matter even if I were not the same person. What matters is the Doctrine.
    So you won't admit you are the same or a different person.
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #5 on: December 12, 2021, 01:37:52 PM »
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    but the Truth is I am Nishant, and Nishant Xavier.
    :confused:  Why is this question so difficult to answer?


    There have been 3 accounts - Nishant, XavierSem, and now Nishant Xavier.

    1.  Are you the same person that created all 3 accounts?
    2.  Are you the same person that posted on all 3 accounts?
    3.  Are you the ONLY person who posted/posts on all 3 accounts?

    Your answers will tell us all we need to know.
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #6 on: December 12, 2021, 01:48:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nishant Xavier on December 12, 2021, 01:42:34 PM
    1. Yes.
    2. Yes.
    3. Yes.
    I believe you. What LT is seeing is a person who has less faith now than he did then due to dabbling with things NO, whether that be the new "mass" or visions/prophesies or whatever, but NOsim is what shines through in your posts, my "Catholic Christian Brother." :fryingpan:
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #7 on: December 12, 2021, 01:55:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nishant Xavier on December 12, 2021, 01:42:34 PM
    1. Yes.
    2. Yes.
    3. Yes.
    That does not answer my quesition, I asked "Are you saying that Nishant Xavier and  XavierSem are the same person that called himself Nishant on Cathinfo 7 years ago? 
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #8 on: December 12, 2021, 02:23:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on December 12, 2021, 01:55:27 PM
    That does not answer my quesition, I asked "Are you saying that Nishant Xavier and  XavierSem are the same person that called himself Nishant on Cathinfo 7 years ago?
    How many crore times will we have to ask him :sleep:
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #9 on: December 12, 2021, 02:30:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nishant Xavier on December 12, 2021, 12:27:02 PM
    I cannot cause anyone to believe me or not, but the Truth is I am Nishant, and Nishant Xavier. I was a Seminarian for some time, and thus I called myself Xavier Sem. But no longer. I am a Free Man now, Free to Evangelize in the World as I have always desired. I hope to preach to at least 100 Crore Souls before I die, as I mention in my 1P5 Bio and hope, by God's Grace, to bring at least 1 Crore of those to Christ through His Church via Holy Baptism. I've always held the Thomistic Position that God brings non-Christians of Good Will to Explicit faith in the Lord Jesus Christ before the end of their lives. I now hold the Augustinian Thomistic Position that God brings such not only to Saving Faith, but also to Sacramental Baptism.

    I love the Augustinian Doctrine. It is the Augustinian Doctrine, nay the Tridentine Doctrine, nay the Doctrine of Jesus Christ Our Lord Himself, that we must be born again of Water and of the Holy Spirit to enter the Kingdom, that will Convert India.

    God Bless! Thanks of course to Indult Traditionalist St. Benedict's Centre for defending and explaining the Augustinian Doctrine beautifully: "Saint Augustine taught, as is clear from this article’s epigram, that the providence of God would see to it that a justified catechumen would be baptized before death. God alone, in any event, knows which of those, with a votum for baptism and perfect contrition, He has justified. The Church can only assume, as the arm of Christ, the Principal Agent in baptism, that all are in need of receiving the sacramentin order to not only have all sin forgiven and abolished, but to be a member of the Church, the Body of Christ. Anticipating the rejoinder that no one is lost who dies in the state of grace, let me just affirm that I agree. Not only that I agree, but that I submit to this truth as I would a dogma of Faith. The Church, however, allows the faithful the freedom to believe that the providence of God will see to it that every person dying in the state of grace will also be baptized. This preserves the literal sense of Christ’s teaching in John 3:5: “Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God” and His apostolic mandate to preach and baptize all nations in Mark 16: 15-16."

    Taken from: https://catholicism.org/baptism-of-desire-its-origin-and-abandonment-in-the-thought-of-saint-augustine.html
    I think that XavierSem has always been more than one person. I think that because I have observed that he never adjusts what he writes after he has been clearly shown to be wrong, he just keeps repeating the same errors a few days or weeks later. It looks to me like it is many people just copying and pasting a stock answer from some program. It just looks like we are dealing with a machine, not a real person. Doesn't the above response look like it came from a machine just rambling on?
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #10 on: December 12, 2021, 03:07:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nishant Xavier on December 12, 2021, 03:05:21 PM
    Lol. I already answered everything clearly. Also, who on earth is "Last Tradhican"? Why is it some of you don't have the courage to post usirng your real name? You who are attacking me are all anonymous cowards hiding behind poorly chosen handles. What pride! "Last Trad" it seems. As if there is no Trad outside your small Dimondite rigorist sect of 10 people. You want to challenge me, have the decency and honesty to link your Linked in profile with your actual cv, academic qualifications, work experience and professional accomplishments like I do. Then I'll consider you a decent and honest person.
    It would have been easier to just answer yes or no. Answer the simple question:

    That does not answer my question, I asked "Are you saying that Nishant Xavier and  XavierSem are the same person that called himself Nishant on Cathinfo 7 years ago?
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #11 on: December 12, 2021, 03:22:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nishant Xavier on December 12, 2021, 03:05:21 PM
    Lol. I already answered everything clearly. Also, who on earth is "Last Tradhican"? Why is it some of you don't have the courage to post usirng your real name? You who are attacking me are all anonymous cowards hiding behind poorly chosen handles. What pride! "Last Trad" it seems. As if there is no Trad outside your small Dimondite rigorist sect of 10 people. You want to challenge me, have the decency and honesty to link your Linked in profile with your actual cv, academic qualifications, work experience and professional accomplishments like I do. Then I'll consider you a decent and honest person.
    Unlike third world countries, getting doxed in a first world country is a serious problem and has real consequences for our families. 
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #12 on: December 12, 2021, 03:34:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nishant Xavier on December 12, 2021, 03:30:35 PM
    Just an excuse to remain faceless and nameless, and them cowardly use that to attack others.

    Also, India is not a third world country. We are a 3 trillion dollar economy. We aim to beat China by 2033.
    In America the majority of the people, no matter how poor, do not poop in streets and rivers. Sorry, there is a difference in our civilizations.
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #13 on: December 12, 2021, 03:49:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nishant Xavier on December 12, 2021, 03:15:31 PM
    No, you answer my questions first, so called Last Trad. What's your real name? Where do you work? What are your educational qualifications? Show that you have the courage to answer these questions first, just as I have done.
    I do not believe that XavierSem is a real person, but multiple persons posting stock answers from some program.  His response above further corroborates my observations.  I'll explain:  Up to a few weeks ago, his credentials were that he had been a seminarian for some time, then he asked for CI members to pray for him that he land a job he applied for. Now he is lauding his "work experience and professional accomplishments" wanting to compare them with others? He just started training in his new job and he is lauding his "work experience and professional accomplishments"? Very strange. 

    XavierSem also is full of insults, but how can someone get offended by insults from a machine?

    P.S.- I am the first person that will applaud the perseverance in people working to improve themselves. My family was VERY rich, and we lost our country, our house, and every penny we had, ending up in the USA as refugees from communism. We landed here with nothing and proceeded to start all over again. I have written here on CI many inspiring real life stories of immigrants I knew who went from barely making enough to eat to being multi-millionaires. I am the first to look with admiration upon anyone that rising from nothing. One thing I do not like though is people who made it, lauding their accomplishments over others, those types inevitable lose everything because they spend all of their money showing others how rich they are. Not to say that this fictitious XavierSem has made it, he has not even started, and yet he is already lauding it over people.
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #14 on: December 12, 2021, 04:32:20 PM »
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    • It's game over for Nishant Xavier.
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