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Author Topic: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago  (Read 6379 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2021, 06:24:11 AM »
You're just afraid you'll be compelled to see the Indult Traditionalist Position is the Truth.

Uhm, no.  Not by the likes of you anyway.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2021, 06:26:15 AM »
... and a Standing Invitation to return at any time.

And your quote said "for a visit".  But that doesn't matter, really.  I honestly couldn't care if you were promoting Motarianism, except that you're constantly lying about things, trying to twist Archbishop Lefebvre into a Motarian, ignoring quotes from Bishop +Tissier who stated that after your quote, the Archbishop became firm against any attendance at the NOM, and continuing to repeat your assertion (which at that point became a lie).  You're regularly attacking SVs as heretics outside the Church, and the Resistance as schismatic (except when it suits you to quote Bishop Williamson on Valtorta or other matters).  I don't really want to keep watching you "slander" Archbishop Lefebvre by painting him as a Motarian.



Offline Ladislaus

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Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2021, 06:46:34 AM »
You remain entrapped in your SVism mire and quicksand if you want. Why should I care? The Truth is virtually no one loves you sedes, especially you Dimondite Sedes, ...

You see, Xavier, this here is evidence of your lying (slander?).  You repeatedly call me an SV and a "Dimondite" despite the fact that I have corrected you about this a dozen times.  You are in fact the liar and slanderer.

I have corrected you many times on this matter, and yet you ignore this and continue to lie.  I have rebuked the Dimonds repeatedly for a schismatic mentality for declaring outside the Church those who disagree with their opinions.  I still have e-mails directly form them excoriating me for this.  Ironically, Xavier, I bring the same reproach against you.  You're just the Motu equivalent of the Dimond brothers, whom you despise with a passion.  Despite my differences with the Dimonds, I also say that they do good work in many areas, and I pray for them, because they could be a great force for good if they were to get past elevating the theological note on their opinions.  And that's EXACTLY what you do; you take your syllogisms and equate their "unimpeachable" logic with Magisterial pronouncements.  During this Crisis, there are many Catholics who have come to different theological conclusions.  Some of them are valid, some probably not.  Ultimately the Church will decide.  But in the meantime, we're on our own due to the vacuum of real/legitimate authority in Rome.  I have even expressed sympathy with the Motarian conclusion when it's theologically consistent.  I can't fault someone for doing their best to apply the "hermeneutic of continuity" to V2, etc. ... if they in fact believe that it's certainly true that these men have been and are legitimate Catholic popes.  I do not declare Motarians to be outside the Church.  I have long fought against the dogmatic SVs who do have that attitude, that you're ipso facto outside the Church if you adhere in any way to the Conciliar Church.  I have defended +Vigano against the dogmatic SVs, etc.

Beside that, it's also a lie to call me an "SV".  I have repeatedly explained to you that I lean more SedePRIVATIONIST or even Chazalist, or whatever you want to call it.  I have also stated that I believe that a fair number of bishops in the Conciliar Church, especially in the Eastern Rites, still have active ordinary jurisdiction, thereby making your charges of "ecclesia-vacantism" not even apply to me.  Yet you keep bringing that charge.  No, you call me an SV simply because I have defended the SVs against your repeated charges of heresy.  They too are Catholics who have the Catholic faith, who have done nothing more than apply the principles taught by St. Robert Bellarmine to this crisis.  They might be right; they might be wrong.  But there's nothing HERETICAL about their opinion.  Nor are they inherently schismatic for believing it, as a dozen Canon lawyers can be cited who state that it's not schismatic to refuse submission to a pope if it's done based on well-founded reasons to suspect their election, their legitimacy, or their person.

So I have defended both Motarians against charges by the dogmatic SVs that they're not Catholics, and I have also defended the SVs against charges by the dogmatic Motarians like yourself, who assert that THEY are not Catholics.  I have been entirely consistent.

Nor am I a Dimondite on the EENS issue, but rather a "Feeneyite".  I have explained this to you numerous times as well.  I have an opinion that most resembles that of St. Benedict Center, with a few nuances.

But I have explained these distinctions to you a dozen times.  Yet you persist in "slandering" me as a Dimondist SV, when I am neither a Dimondist nor an SV ... simply because I defend them against your spurious charges of heresy.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2021, 06:59:39 AM »
I have been very much a Traditional Catholic "irenicist" promoting the notion that we're all Catholics and need to get along (not agreeing on everything, but acknowledging that we're all Catholics, with theological differences, as you've had many times in Church history, such as with the Molinists vs. the Thomists).  I had hoped that Father Chazal's opinion might be the impetus for greater unity.  I have consistently denounced the charges of formal heresy on all sides.  If I've been consistent about anything, it's been about that ... which has made me some enemies on either dogmatic side of the spectrum.

And that is why I resent your activity here.  You're attacking one group of Traditional Catholics after another, denouncing them as heretics, trying to divide and "conquer", evangelizing them over to your newfound Motarian beliefs, fancying yourself a crusader and a missionary.  You consider the Resistance schismatic (although you really soft-pedal that one knowing you'll get tossed the minute you explicitly state it) for rejecting the efforts of the "saintly" Bishop Fellay.  You're sowing division among Traditional Catholics, whereas many of us are striving toward unity.  THAT is why I object to what you're doing.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2021, 07:02:36 AM »
Will you retract your slanderous accusation that I'm a "Dimondite SV"?

You know it's not true, and I know that you know it, but it shows your immaturity that you pull that from your bag of "insults" every time you don't like something I write.