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Offline Incredulous

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Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2021, 07:46:04 PM »
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  • Sumptin strange goin on around here?



    Always thought Michael A. Hoffman was a ghost operation. 

    Too many different writing styles and too much lack of understanding of the Catholic Faith
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #31 on: December 13, 2021, 12:21:10 AM »
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  • But the Lord showed me this wasn't the place for me because the Vision was too small - there was no thought of Saving Millions of Souls at all, but of remaining small. It wasn't Management Thinking such as I had learnt in Indian Institute of Management, Lucknow. I respect the SSPX for the Good Work they're doing in India, but I will have to promote Tradition on my own also. Some SSPX People don't understand the Importance of Internet Evangelism for the Fulfilment of the Great Commission (which many other Christian Evangelists declare will be more successful for said fulfilment than all other forms of Evangelism combined - in the next 20 to 30 years, see the difference between how those who want to finish the Great Commission are speaking, and those obsessed with end-times-bunker-trad-its-all-over mentality think)

    If I were your spiritual director and/or confessor, I would bind you to read "The Soul of the Apostolate" and meditate on it. Also several Lives of the Saints who were missionaries. I don't think you understand how it works -- the economy of salvation, the economy of saving souls. It's not like selling smartphones.

    Beware of making your will into an impostor, or false imitation, of God's will. You don't want to confuse the two. Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer made this mistake, and look at the wreckage in his wake.
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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #32 on: December 13, 2021, 04:52:42 AM »
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  • Assuming NX is telling the truth that these accounts are all the same person, I'm still wondering why a second account was created in the first place when that is against forum rules.  At the very least that is .... less than truthful.

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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #33 on: December 13, 2021, 05:21:06 AM »
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  • LT could be right, but until proven, I will credit the difference in him between then and now with being the progressive loss of faith that happens, as a rule and all the time, to those who dabble in things a Catholic is not supposed to have anything to do with.

    I recall Vetus Ordo, a once strong pillar of the faith poster from fisheaters who did a 180 on that account, worse than Xavier. There are many in that same camp.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #34 on: December 13, 2021, 05:55:31 AM »
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  • Get rid of this guy, Matthew. 

    He's serving no good purpose here.  He's just a Motarian preaching religious indifferentism and constantly attacking Traditional Catholics.  And he's totally self-serving.  He distorts and cherry-picks information out of context in order to work R&R members of the forum up against sedevacantists, but then condemns the principles of R&R.  He does the latter more quietly because he knows he'll get kicked off the forum for it.  But he actually agrees with the SVs (and against R&R) regarding whether it's possible for the New Mass to be offensive to God, etc.  So this guy disagrees with both SVs and R&R.  He just has more of an emotional thing against SVism (and the Dimonds on particular).  I've pointed out to him that his allegations of heresy regarding Universal Acceptance apply to both both Bishop Williamson and Archbishop Lefebvre and, actually, most Traditional Catholics.  He's derided the Resistance as schismatics for opposing the efforts of +Fellay to reunify with Rome, but then he praises Bishop Williamson to no end when he happens to agree with one of his other opinions and he can use that as a weapon against the sedevacantist.

    After being about 5,000 - 6,000 ahead in upvotes over down, he's now very quickly drawn even.  He starts one thread after another where it's him against pretty much everybody else on CI.

    He's trying to divide and causes dissension among true Traditional Catholics while promoting his Indultarianism, his pan-Christian religious indifferentism (despite falsely claiming to be strong on EENS), and defending the New Mass as a good thing.  He doesn't belong here.

    Plus, if he's actually Nishant, then he's done the very unusual thing of going from someone with the maturity of a middle-aged man to behaving like a petulant teenager.


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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #35 on: December 13, 2021, 06:00:34 AM »
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  • never mind
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #36 on: December 13, 2021, 06:06:01 AM »
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  • Liarslaus constantly lied and slandered me when I first signed up here as XavierSem

    I did nothing of the sort.  Closest thing was when I said, half in jest, and admittedly in speculation, that you "likely" got tossed from the seminary due to your immature behavior.  "Likely" immediately indicates that I am not claiming to have concrete information, and way basically a rhetorical was of saying that you SHOULD have been tossed out.

    You on the other hand declared that I have no love for souls, as if you now also had the gift of reading souls.  But that's not lying and slandering?  On the other hand, I have caught you lying and distorting multiple times on various threads, mostly by way of your intellectually-dishonest where you filter out any information that's contrary to your agenda.

    You've become an insufferable twit.

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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #37 on: December 13, 2021, 06:12:05 AM »
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  • LastTrad made a good point in referring to Nishant attempting to take over CI and turn it into NishantInfo.  When he started 15 of the 20 live threads, and most of them were promotions of Motarianism or else were pushing things like Holy Love Ministries or pushing pan-Christian religious indifferentism, that has the effect of changing the character and the "culture" of the forum.  He's transforming the culture here at CI, and not for the good.  If some third party here landed upon CI and sees "Traditional Catholic Forum" and then sees things like articles promoting Holy Love Ministries, religious indifferentism, pushing of the Motarian position, what impression does that leave them with?

    I've been pointing out for a few years now that this Xavier (Nishant?) was not actually a Traditional Catholics.  He's more a smells-and-bells traditionalist of the Motu variety.  While such as that shouldn't be unwelcome here per se, when he's monopolizing the forum with his Motarian stuff, causing division and dissension among Traditional Catholics, etc. ... that to me crosses a line.

    Nevertheless, he'll be well in the red pretty soon on dislikes despite his having received the poster-formerly-known-as-Nishant's prior upvotes.  I'm pretty sure that I upvoted Nishant far more than I downvoted him.


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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #38 on: December 13, 2021, 06:20:24 AM »
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  • Just a quick survey.

    On this thread alone, Nishant Xavier has accuмulated ...

    0 upvotes, 43 downvotes (and counting)

    And I'm pretty sure you'd be hard-pressed to find a single upvote in the last 3 weeks or so.

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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #39 on: December 13, 2021, 06:22:48 AM »
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  • ITS YOU WHO "LIKELY" GOT THROWN OUT OF SEMINARY for being SUCH AN INSUFFERABLE JERK.

    But you JUST declared such a statement to be the mortal sin of slander.

    Sure, I got thrown out of the seminary ... by God.  God decided He didn't want me to be a priest, so all glory to Him.  But no, I didn't get thrown out by any rectors or any people like that.

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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #40 on: December 13, 2021, 06:24:11 AM »
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  • You're just afraid you'll be compelled to see the Indult Traditionalist Position is the Truth.

    Uhm, no.  Not by the likes of you anyway.


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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #41 on: December 13, 2021, 06:26:15 AM »
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  • ... and a Standing Invitation to return at any time.

    And your quote said "for a visit".  But that doesn't matter, really.  I honestly couldn't care if you were promoting Motarianism, except that you're constantly lying about things, trying to twist Archbishop Lefebvre into a Motarian, ignoring quotes from Bishop +Tissier who stated that after your quote, the Archbishop became firm against any attendance at the NOM, and continuing to repeat your assertion (which at that point became a lie).  You're regularly attacking SVs as heretics outside the Church, and the Resistance as schismatic (except when it suits you to quote Bishop Williamson on Valtorta or other matters).  I don't really want to keep watching you "slander" Archbishop Lefebvre by painting him as a Motarian.


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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #42 on: December 13, 2021, 06:46:34 AM »
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  • You remain entrapped in your SVism mire and quicksand if you want. Why should I care? The Truth is virtually no one loves you sedes, especially you Dimondite Sedes, ...

    You see, Xavier, this here is evidence of your lying (slander?).  You repeatedly call me an SV and a "Dimondite" despite the fact that I have corrected you about this a dozen times.  You are in fact the liar and slanderer.

    I have corrected you many times on this matter, and yet you ignore this and continue to lie.  I have rebuked the Dimonds repeatedly for a schismatic mentality for declaring outside the Church those who disagree with their opinions.  I still have e-mails directly form them excoriating me for this.  Ironically, Xavier, I bring the same reproach against you.  You're just the Motu equivalent of the Dimond brothers, whom you despise with a passion.  Despite my differences with the Dimonds, I also say that they do good work in many areas, and I pray for them, because they could be a great force for good if they were to get past elevating the theological note on their opinions.  And that's EXACTLY what you do; you take your syllogisms and equate their "unimpeachable" logic with Magisterial pronouncements.  During this Crisis, there are many Catholics who have come to different theological conclusions.  Some of them are valid, some probably not.  Ultimately the Church will decide.  But in the meantime, we're on our own due to the vacuum of real/legitimate authority in Rome.  I have even expressed sympathy with the Motarian conclusion when it's theologically consistent.  I can't fault someone for doing their best to apply the "hermeneutic of continuity" to V2, etc. ... if they in fact believe that it's certainly true that these men have been and are legitimate Catholic popes.  I do not declare Motarians to be outside the Church.  I have long fought against the dogmatic SVs who do have that attitude, that you're ipso facto outside the Church if you adhere in any way to the Conciliar Church.  I have defended +Vigano against the dogmatic SVs, etc.

    Beside that, it's also a lie to call me an "SV".  I have repeatedly explained to you that I lean more SedePRIVATIONIST or even Chazalist, or whatever you want to call it.  I have also stated that I believe that a fair number of bishops in the Conciliar Church, especially in the Eastern Rites, still have active ordinary jurisdiction, thereby making your charges of "ecclesia-vacantism" not even apply to me.  Yet you keep bringing that charge.  No, you call me an SV simply because I have defended the SVs against your repeated charges of heresy.  They too are Catholics who have the Catholic faith, who have done nothing more than apply the principles taught by St. Robert Bellarmine to this crisis.  They might be right; they might be wrong.  But there's nothing HERETICAL about their opinion.  Nor are they inherently schismatic for believing it, as a dozen Canon lawyers can be cited who state that it's not schismatic to refuse submission to a pope if it's done based on well-founded reasons to suspect their election, their legitimacy, or their person.

    So I have defended both Motarians against charges by the dogmatic SVs that they're not Catholics, and I have also defended the SVs against charges by the dogmatic Motarians like yourself, who assert that THEY are not Catholics.  I have been entirely consistent.

    Nor am I a Dimondite on the EENS issue, but rather a "Feeneyite".  I have explained this to you numerous times as well.  I have an opinion that most resembles that of St. Benedict Center, with a few nuances.

    But I have explained these distinctions to you a dozen times.  Yet you persist in "slandering" me as a Dimondist SV, when I am neither a Dimondist nor an SV ... simply because I defend them against your spurious charges of heresy.

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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #43 on: December 13, 2021, 06:59:39 AM »
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  • I have been very much a Traditional Catholic "irenicist" promoting the notion that we're all Catholics and need to get along (not agreeing on everything, but acknowledging that we're all Catholics, with theological differences, as you've had many times in Church history, such as with the Molinists vs. the Thomists).  I had hoped that Father Chazal's opinion might be the impetus for greater unity.  I have consistently denounced the charges of formal heresy on all sides.  If I've been consistent about anything, it's been about that ... which has made me some enemies on either dogmatic side of the spectrum.

    And that is why I resent your activity here.  You're attacking one group of Traditional Catholics after another, denouncing them as heretics, trying to divide and "conquer", evangelizing them over to your newfound Motarian beliefs, fancying yourself a crusader and a missionary.  You consider the Resistance schismatic (although you really soft-pedal that one knowing you'll get tossed the minute you explicitly state it) for rejecting the efforts of the "saintly" Bishop Fellay.  You're sowing division among Traditional Catholics, whereas many of us are striving toward unity.  THAT is why I object to what you're doing.

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    Re: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago
    « Reply #44 on: December 13, 2021, 07:02:36 AM »
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  • Will you retract your slanderous accusation that I'm a "Dimondite SV"?

    You know it's not true, and I know that you know it, but it shows your immaturity that you pull that from your bag of "insults" every time you don't like something I write.