Author Topic: XavierSem Can't Be Same Person as Nishant of 7 years Ago (Read 4781 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #15 on:** December 12, 2021, 04:51:22 PM »

I'll admit, I have been too busy to read Nishant's old posts up till now. But as I was just saying about it being the worst kind of malice/evil to look at the truth and just "not care"...

1. There is no way a person's speech patterns, writing patterns, will change drastically in just 10 years. Capitalizations, composition style, even spelling is not going to change that much in 10 years. If you look at my old posts, the only difference is that I used to sign my name at the bottom of each post. And MAYBE I had less words in ALL CAPS (for emphasis) in my writing. That would be a minor, organic habit or development. It has been over 15 years. But my posts from 2006 don't appear to be from a different person.

I know I can tell someone's posting style; I can almost identify people by it. I don't think I can quite program a computer to do so -- but I bet I could program a computer to look at different metrics, and form a sort of unique "fingerprint" with a % chance they are the same. That much is possible. Looking at total vocabulary, favorite words, spelling errors per 1000 words, capitalization patterns, etc.

2. Those old Nishant posts (speaking from vague memory here, and that memory was refreshed by the OP) seemed to be from an adult -- a middle-aged adult. And said adult wasn't even part Choleric, as far as I can recall. How could he turn into the young, feisty, sometimes rude, choleric, naive "Nishant Xavier" persona? One's basic Temperament(s) do not change AT ALL over a lifetime. Choleric, Melancholic, Sanguine, Phlegmatic. Most people are a combination of 2 of these temperaments.

3. I never received the slightest proof that they are the same person. I took "XavierSem" at his word, when he claimed to be the same person. I gave him all Nishant's reputation and banned (closed) that account. I haven't heard from Nishant in forever. Maybe he died? Maybe since they're both in India, XavierSem had inside info that Nishant wouldn't be back looking for that account? At any rate, we still have no explanation, not even an official one, as to why XavierSem started that "new" account in the first place if he was Nishant and always was Nishant. It's not like he needed to escape a bad reputation or something! Quite the contrary. In all my years running CathInfo, I've never had someone "start over" with a new account and beg for their reputation from their old account to be brought over. I've had the opposite happen many times (people wanting a clean slate) but never the contrary.

Matthew · « **Reply #16 on:** December 12, 2021, 04:59:47 PM »

Last, but not least (I wanted to make this into a separate post) --

Years ago, there was a big hubbub on CathInfo about identities. People accused both me and my sister (Dulcamara) of having alternate identities. It turned into a three-ring-circus, a real witch-hunt. It was a paranoia fest, with multiple people being accused of having alternate identities on CathInfo. I was one of the last ones "accused". It is almost funny looking back on it, but it was serious at the time. The Salem Witch Trials are not funny. It was rendering the forum useless, and so I had recourse to something that is only moral to use for a grave reason. I believed I had such a grave reason. And that is:

A SOLEMN OATH.

Basically you say something clearly and precisely, leaving no room for mental reservation or loopholes, even explicitly stating such. And you say things like "If I am trying to hide, misdirect or deceive in any way by these my statements, may I be found guilty of the Precious Blood of Christ and may the Just Judge, Jesus Christ, blot out my name from the book of life and consign my soul forever to the eternal fires of hell."

Nishant Xavier may be willing to swear this oath, and that might be enough for some to then trust his story that he is the same person as Nishant.
Or, he might be squeamish or unwilling to swear that oath -- for a number of reasons, including not wanting to perjure himself.

Or, he might not consider his *mere membership* on CathInfo a worthy cause for such an oath. I would respect that. But I will say this: IT MIGHT COME TO THAT.

Again, I made such a public oath on CathInfo about 10 years ago, but it was my forum. My reputation, my forum were on the line. It seemed important enough. But to just be a MEMBER on a given Trad Catholic forum? That might not be a big enough reason to swear an oath. But I suppose that should be left up to the individual. After all, Nishant Xavier seems to think CathInfo is crucial to converting crores and crores of Indians to the Catholic Faith.

Nadir · « **Reply #17 on:** December 12, 2021, 05:03:06 PM »

Quote from: bodeens on December 12, 2021, 02:23:13 PM

How many crore times will we have to ask him

Sort of sticks in your craw, eh!

Yeti · « **Reply #18 on:** December 12, 2021, 05:07:54 PM »

What??! Come on, you people can't be serious?!

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You really think some guy in India had an account on here for a while, got trampled to death by an elephant or something, and then his next-door neighbor is now using his log-in credentials to post for him? Or that he conned Matthew into giving him the original guy's credentials? Or something similar?
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Seriously?
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For what possible motive? Why on earth would someone pretend to be some obscure, unknown person on a nearly-unknown web forum (no offense, Matt

) to the extent of writing long posts in his name. What is the point of becoming an imposter for someone who barely exists in the first place, as far as the people on this forum are concerned?

crowbar · « **Reply #19 on:** December 12, 2021, 05:15:26 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on December 12, 2021, 04:59:47 PM

A SOLEMN OATH.

Basically you say something clearly and precisely, leaving no room for mental reservation or loopholes, even explicitly stating such. And you say things like "If I am trying to hide, misdirect or deceive in any way by these my statements, may I be found guilty of the Precious Blood of Christ and may the Just Judge, Jesus Christ, blot out my name from the book of life and consign my soul forever to the eternal fires of hell."

Nishant Xavier may be willing to swear this oath, and that might be enough for some to then trust his story that he is the same person as Nishant.
Or, he might be squeamish or unwilling to swear that oath -- for a number of reasons, including not wanting to perjure himself.

Or, he might not consider his *mere membership* on CathInfo a worthy cause for such an oath. I would respect that. But I will say this: IT MIGHT COME TO THAT.

Or he could be a sociopath and lie without scruple.

Never project your values onto people you don't know...

Emile · « **Reply #20 on:** December 12, 2021, 05:34:52 PM »

On a different forum Xavier posted that he "almost married a Pentecostal Christian Lady" he also indicated that he has a new sweetheart. I've seen men change quite drastically, and women for that matter, in personality and in the beliefs that they espouse, for the better and for the worse, when they take up with a prospective mate. I have to wonder if maybe the new gal is not Catholic either and that is what is driving his love of NO ecuмania. Just a theory. In any case I wish you well Xavier.

https://christianchat.com/new-christian-chat-members-introduce-yourselves/hallelujah-greetings-to-all-brothers-and-sisters-here-in-the-lord-jesus-from-an-indian-christian.202729/

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #21 on:** December 12, 2021, 06:24:47 PM »

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No, you answer my questions first,

dodging the question again...

It's not a personal question at all, Xavier. Just answer it.

Meg · « **Reply #22 on:** December 12, 2021, 06:44:19 PM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on December 12, 2021, 03:49:15 PM

I do not believe that XavierSem is a real person, but multiple persons posting stock answers from some program. His response above further corroborates my observations. I'll explain: Up to a few weeks ago, his credentials were that he had been a seminarian for some time, then he asked for CI members to pray for him that he land a job he applied for. Now he is lauding his "work experience and professional accomplishments" wanting to compare them with others? He just started training in his new job and he is lauding his "work experience and professional accomplishments"? Very strange.

Hopefully, XS will explain the clear discrepancy that is outlined above. How is it possible that he could go from ex-seminarian, to asking for prayers for a job, then to having "work experience and professional accomplishments" after just starting training in a new job? Something doesn't add up.

Matthew · « **Reply #23 on:** December 12, 2021, 06:57:09 PM »

Quote from: Emile on December 12, 2021, 05:34:52 PM

On a different forum Xavier posted that he "almost married a Pentecostal Christian Lady" he also indicated that he has a new sweetheart. I've seen men change quite drastically, and women for that matter, in personality and in the beliefs that they espouse, for the better and for the worse, when they take up with a prospective mate. I have to wonder if maybe the new gal is not Catholic either and that is what is driving his love of NO ecuмania. Just a theory. In any case I wish you well Xavier.

https://christianchat.com/new-christian-chat-members-introduce-yourselves/hallelujah-greetings-to-all-brothers-and-sisters-here-in-the-lord-jesus-from-an-indian-christian.202729/

Nov 27, 2021
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Hallelujah! All Glory, Honor, and Praise be to Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ now and forever!

I am Nishant Xavier, an Indian Christian, from Tamil Nadu, India. I studied in National Institute of Technology, Trichy, and Indian Institute of Management, Lucknow. I worked for Bank of New York, (Chennai Office) for a couple of years earlier, and now work for Credit Suisse, an Investment Banking Company in Mumbai. I Work from Home from Chennai, Tamil Nadu. I am a Catholic Christian, but I love all Christians everywhere from all denominations as my brothers and sisters in Our Lord Jesus Christ. I almost Married a Pentecostal Christian Lady. I I have great dreams for the Salvation and Economic Blessings from Our Lord Jesus for my country India. My aspiration and hope is we Indian Christians win at least 15 Crore (150 MN) for Christ in India by 2030:

Tamil Nadu is also where St. Thomas, the Apostle of Jesus Christ, labored for the Salvation of so many Souls, brought many to Holy Baptism and to Saving Faith in Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Saviour, and is buried to this day. If any of you are from India or come to India, call me if you want and we can go to St. Thomas' Mount together on a Saturday or Sunday! I've also been to St. Francis Xavier's tomb in Goa with my College Friends. St. Francis Xavier is another Great Christian respected by all Christian Denominations who according to some sources I've read won 3 Million (30 Lakh) Souls to Our Lord Jesus and to Holy Baptism. I also respect British Christians and the Anglican Denomination for the Good Work they did, for Christ and for India, for so many centuries.

Today, it's up to us Indian Christians, My Brothers and Sisters in Our Lord Jesus Christ, to Continue the Mission, and Complete the Task! Let us Pray, and let us Work, with Fire and with Zeal, with Full Christian Unity, to end Persecution of Christians in Our Motherland India, and to Win Lakhs and Crores to Salvation in Jesus Christ Our Lord, the Only Name under Heaven by which we can be saved, as St. Peter the Apostle plainly teaches (Acts 4: 12). "Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. " Hallelujah!

May Our Lord Jesus Christ Richly Bless us all, with His Blessings and His Grace, so that we may have Deep Faith in Him and Strong Love for Him, and desire to do great things for His Eternal Glory. In Lord Jesus' Name. Amen.

Matthew · « **Reply #24 on:** December 12, 2021, 07:01:03 PM »

Quote from: Yeti on December 12, 2021, 05:07:54 PM

For what possible motive? Why on earth would someone pretend to be some obscure, unknown person on a nearly-unknown web forum (no offense, Matt ) to the extent of writing long posts in his name. What is the point of becoming an imposter for someone who barely exists in the first place, as far as the people on this forum are concerned?

No offense taken.

But it would be taking trolling/subversion to the next level, as "newness" and a huge lopsided upvote/downvote ratio right out of the gate is usually a HUGE obstacle for trolls to be able to post on CI longer than a week. They get noticed, and eventually banned. Always.

In this case, his rep score has "inertia", not to mention a bit of cred/goodwill, from this old Nishant account -- but his relation with Nishant is frankly unknown and quite debatable at this time.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #25 on:** December 12, 2021, 07:16:02 PM »

Quote from: Emile on December 12, 2021, 05:34:52 PM

On a different forum Xavier posted that he "almost married a Pentecostal Christian Lady" he also indicated that he has a new sweetheart. I've seen men change quite drastically, and women for that matter, in personality and in the beliefs that they espouse, for the better and for the worse, when they take up with a prospective mate. I have to wonder if maybe the new gal is not Catholic either and that is what is driving his love of NO ecuмania. Just a theory. In any case I wish you well Xavier.

Interesting. I've been puzzled by his relatively-recent promotion of non-Catholics as "True Christians" and of his pan-Christian religious indifferentism in general. This might explain it.

Nevertheless, to me the timeline does seem a bit off. Until not too long ago, he was XavierSem, but he now suddenly appears to be relatively well established in his new line of work. It would seem that there would have to have been a few years in between to get a degree. At the same time, I have in fact heard of diploma-mills in India where you can get a Bachelor's in Computer Science after a quick boot camp and then they hire you out as experts on an offshore team.

I do feel that the prior Nishant seemed a fair bit more mature. I always imagined him to be older, and this new XavierSem to be younger. People don't typically go in reverse where it comes to maturation. I used to have conversations and debates with the prior Nishant all the time, and it just doesn't FEEL to me as if I'm having exchanges with the same person here.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #26 on:** December 12, 2021, 07:19:20 PM »

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I am Nishant Xavier, an Indian Christian, from Tamil Nadu, India. I studied in National Institute of Technology, Trichy, and Indian Institute of Management, Lucknow. I worked for Bank of New York, (Chennai Office) for a couple of years earlier, and now work for Credit Suisse, an Investment Banking Company in Mumbai.

The above post was from Nov 27, just a few weeks ago. I tried to find when "XavierSem" posted last but can't. Had to have been in November sometime.

Questions:
1. We've been debating with "XavierSem" for years now. Even a few weeks ago, he was an active user. Why is the above post an introduction? We all know him. Seems very odd.
2. How can he have worked at Bank of New York "for a couple of years earlier" if he's been in the seminary? He told us that he changed his account name from "XavierSem" because the "Sem" stands for seminary and he just left.
3. How could he have "almost married" if he's been in the seminary?

Lots of "facts" not adding up.

Emile · « **Reply #27 on:** December 12, 2021, 07:21:53 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on December 12, 2021, 07:16:02 PM

Interesting. I've been puzzled by his relatively-recent promotion of non-Catholics as "True Christians" and of his pan-Christian religious indifferentism in general. This might explain it.

Nevertheless, to me the timeline does seem a bit off. Until not too long ago, he was XavierSem, but he now suddenly appears to be relatively well established in his new line of work. It would seem that there would have to have been a few years in between to get a degree. At the same time, I have in fact heard of diploma-mills in India where you can get a Bachelor's in Computer Science after a quick boot camp and then they hire you out as experts on an offshore team.
I do feel that the prior Nishant seemed a fair bit more mature. I always imagined him to be older, and this new XavierSem to be younger. People don't typically go in reverse where it comes to maturation. I used to have conversations and debates with the prior Nishant all the time, and it just doesn't FEEL to me as if I'm having exchanges with the same person here.

I was interrupted and forgot to post where Xavier mentions, what I take to be, his new sweetheart. Whether he is the same man I do not know but he is on a dangerous trajectory.

https://christianchat.com/indian-christian-forum/where-can-i-mass-order-new-testament-bibles-at-a-reasonable-price.202807/#post-4716500

Thank you all, dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ, for your suggestions. I love the Gideons for the Great Work they're doing. Out of that Amazing Statistic that 5 Billion Bibles have been published worldwide - beating Harry Potter at a mere 0.5 BN by 1000%! Hah! - according to my NKJV Blue New Testament Gideon Bible, " With the help of Christian friends from many different Churches, Gideons have been able to place and distribute over 1.6 Billion Bibles - (32% of the Total ever accomplished by one single organization!) - and New Testaments to hotels, motels, hospitals, penal instituions, members of the armed forces, school students and those in the public nursing field" Wow!
Those 1.6 Billion Bibles must have sparked at least 400 Million Conversions and Souls Saved for the Lord Jesus Christ Worldwide, even if we assume a Conversion Ratio of a mere 25%. It's probably higher than that. I'm firmly convinced that distributing Holy Bibles is the Very Best and Greatest Form of Christian Evangelism we can ever do, and I believe Millions of Christians are called to participate.
I've changed and updated my plans here in India. I just sent an email to the Woman I Love explaining my plans, after she encouraged me to broaden my horizon and thinking a little - and plan like this - a BIBLE FOR EVERY SINGLE INDIAN BY 2033, so India may be saved.
Edited and Updated:
"Therefore, it is likely that in 2033, the 2000th Anniversary of Our Lord's Resurrection, and the Descent of the Holy Ghost upon the Apostles, India's Population will be 155 C. Here's how we can, Amazingly, have a Bible for Every Indian by then!
Action Plan: Missionary Target of 155 Crore Bibles in 12 Years.
25 Crore Bibles from 2029-2033 = 125 Crore Bibles; 5 years, 2029, 2030, 2031, 2032, 2033.
5 Crore Bibles from 2023-2028 = 30 Crore Bibles; cuмulative = 155 Crore Bibles bet 23-33.
2022 Working to get the first set of 5 Crore Bibles ready for 2023. A New Improved Translation of the Holy Scriptures.
Let's get to Work Immediately for this Most Noble Cause which will ... Save India. The Word of God has a Power which no man can ever fully understand! The Holy Bible is the Greatest Weapon against Satan and will Spark the Greatest Revival Ever in Christian History!"
In Our Lord Jesus,
Nishant Xavier.
God Bless you all.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #28 on:** December 12, 2021, 07:33:32 PM »

Quote from: Nishant Xavier on December 12, 2021, 12:27:02 PM

I was a Seminarian for some time, and thus I called myself Xavier Sem. But no longer. I am a Free Man now, Free to Evangelize in the World as I have always desired.

So was your Seminary also a prison? I don't understand how you are a free man NOW? Were you taken by force into the seminary?

This to me does not sound like the language of a genuine seminarian ... to consider time at the seminary to be a contrast to freedom.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #29 on:** December 12, 2021, 07:36:22 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on December 12, 2021, 07:19:20 PM

The above post was from Nov 27, just a few weeks ago. I tried to find when "XavierSem" posted last but can't. Had to have been in November sometime.

Questions:
1. We've been debating with "XavierSem" for years now. Even a few weeks ago, he was an active user. Why is the above post an introduction? We all know him. Seems very odd.
2. How can he have worked at Bank of New York "for a couple of years earlier" if he's been in the seminary? He told us that he changed his account name from "XavierSem" because the "Sem" stands for seminary and he just left.
3. How could he have "almost married" if he's been in the seminary?

Lots of "facts" not adding up.

Right, and I don't get the thing about his extensive work experience and educational background despite seminary time.

It's possible that Nishant was educated in the field, then had a change of heart and tried seminary, but then left seminary and went back to his career. But then how is it that he seems like a young man lacking in maturity compared to the previous Nishant? I agree that something seems off here.

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