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Offline Jaynek

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World's Morality is Backward
« on: November 03, 2018, 09:52:36 AM »
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  • I saw this video today and I cried.  The Down Syndrome Society in Canada is doing a campaign based on comparing people with Down Syndrome to animals.  The value of human life (especially for these humans) has been reduced to the point that it would be an improvement for them to get endangered species status.





    Most sweet Jesus, whose overflowing charity for men is requited by so much forgetfulness, negligence and contempt, behold us prostrate before you, eager to repair by a special act of homage the cruel indifference and injuries to which your loving Heart is

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    Re: World's Morality is Backward
    « Reply #1 on: November 05, 2018, 06:50:10 AM »
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  • I get your point Jaynek, but not the ad.  What in the world is "Endangered Syndrome"?  Some new thing modernists have come up with?!  Like, if you're handicapped or mentally retarded, you have to be on some list now?   


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    Re: World's Morality is Backward
    « Reply #2 on: November 06, 2018, 10:22:11 AM »
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  • For some time now, women have been encouraged to test for Down Syndrome during pregnancy and to abort the child if the test is positive.  Abortion is not simply tolerated but pushed as the responsible course of action.  Consequently, the number of people with Down Syndrome has been decreasing to a point that is approaching extinction.  In some countries, like Iceland, they have almost completely disappeared.

    When a species of animals is in danger of disappearing from the world, it is common to declare them an endangered species.  Many governments have legislation to protect such species.

    The Canadian Down Syndrome Society is calling their campaign "Endangered Syndrome" to make the point that Western culture cares more about animals than human beings. Our culture protects animals that are in danger of extinction, but there is no protection for people with Down Syndrome.  Not only that, as their numbers decrease, fewer resources are available to help them.

    The campaign is ironically requesting that people with Down Syndrome be put on the Endangered Species list.  This makes the point that the situation is so bad that it would be an improvement for them to be treated like animals.  Of course, they are human beings and should not really be treated like animals.  
    Most sweet Jesus, whose overflowing charity for men is requited by so much forgetfulness, negligence and contempt, behold us prostrate before you, eager to repair by a special act of homage the cruel indifference and injuries to which your loving Heart is

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    Re: World's Morality is Backward
    « Reply #3 on: November 07, 2018, 02:43:43 AM »
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  • Thank you for bringing up the topic, Jane!

    The elimination of children with the chromosomal abnormality is "Backward" to say the least, when there is already so much research been done to improve the possibility of a solution to the problem of the abnormality.

    Apart, of course, from the distress these would be eliminators cause to the parents who would never consider such an "option" as killing their own child. And the grief and suffering that they will undergo if they succumb to this pressure, not to mention the possibility of loss of eternal happiness for all parties. 

    Randy Engel has been active for many years in this fight for the betterment of life for these little darling souls and their parents.

    http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/engel/140309 

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    Michael Fund researcher opens door to Down syndrome fetal therapies

    By Randy Engel

    March 9, 2014

    Introduction

    It is my honor and privilege, as the co-founder and Executive Director of the Michael Fund to announce a major breakthrough in prenatal therapies designed to improve the intellectual and physical development of unborn children with Down syndrome, with potential positive applications for unborn children everywhere.

    For more than thirty-five years, the Pittsburgh-based International Foundation for Genetic Research, popularly known as the Michael Fund, has been funding prolife genetic research in the field of Down syndrome and related chromosomal disorders. Its creation in 1978 was motivated by the growing threat of eugenic abortion of unborn children suspected of carrying genes associated with a particular genetic disorder, most especially, Down syndrome.

    In 1994, following the death of Dr. Jerome Lejeune of the University of Paris, the first Director of Medical Research for the IFGR/Michael Fund, the foundation moved its research program back to the United States. Three years later, the research program was placed under the direction of prolife obstetrician-gynecologist and geneticist, Dr. Paddy Jim Baggot of Los Angeles.

    I am proud to state that the hundreds of thousands of dollars of financial support for the Michael Fund has come almost entirely from prolife donors and organizations and parents and relatives of children born with Down syndrome. The exemplary efforts of Dr. Baggot and the Board of Directors and staff of the Michael Fund stand in sharp contrast to the
    "Health by Death" ethic embraced by the Anti-Life Establishment.

    The following press release on new avenues of Down syndrome research is reproduced with the kind permission of Jane Orient, M.D., Executive Director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS).

    Dr. Baggot's Fetal Therapy for Down Syndrome: Report of Three Cases and a Review of the Literature is available online at http://www.jpands.org/vol19no1/baggot.pdf. Dr. Baggot's original research papers have appeared in prominent medical scientific journals including Fetal Diagnosis and Therapy, and The Internet Journal of Gynecology and Obstetrics.

    I hope that Renew America readers will visit the Michael Fund at www.michaelfund.org and make a much needed tax-deductible donation to enable us to carry through with our clinical trials which are in the early stages of development.

    Dr. Baggot can be reached for interviews and consultations at pjbaggot@hotmail.com. Additional information on the Michael Fund is available from yours truly at rvte61@comcast.net.

    Brain Development in Down Syndrome May Be Enhanced, Doctor Suggests

    TUCSON, Ariz., March 3, 2014 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ – Genetic diseases are generally thought to be untreatable, but the underlying mechanisms are biochemical and thus can possibly be modified, writes Los Angeles obstetrician P.J. Baggot, M.D., in the spring issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons.

    Down syndrome results from an extra copy of chromosome 21 (trisomy 21), and thus three copies of each gene instead of two. Either excess or deficiency of various factors can have a detrimental effect on brain development, which involves both proliferation of nerve cells and selective pruning.

    Baggot provides three case reports of mothers who attempted to enhance their babies' brain development both before and after birth. They used nutritional supplements, including high-dose vitamins, and stimulation through music and reading aloud.

    Four babies (one set of twins) were born lacking typical facial features of Down syndrome, despite confirmation of the diagnosis through chromosome typing.

    Intellectual development far exceeded expectations. One child at 34 months met some speech milestones for four-year-olds. A video demonstrated a 17-month infant reading and responding with gestures. A second video showed a 23-month infant reading aloud from flash cards. A third video showed a newborn crawling on the third day of life. These achievements would be admirable in children without Down syndrome.

    Previously, six randomized controlled trials showed no benefit from multivitamins in Down syndrome. However, treatments were limited in duration and given late in development; most had no patients under age five. According to Baggot's "five-square" developmental enhancement paradigm, it may have been too late.

    "In development, timing is everything," Baggot writes. A valid treatment given too late may have no detectable effect. But correction of nutrient deficiencies earlier, even prior to conception, may have effects years or decades later. Intrauterine factors may have a bearing on adult diseases at ages 60 to 80.

    There is now a mouse model for Down syndrome, Baggot writes. The Ts65Dn mouse is trisomic for most of the genes found on human chromosome 21. It has physiologic, anatomic, and functional impairments similar to those in human Down syndrome. Prenatal and postnatal biochemical treatment and environmental stimulation have led to behavioral and cognitive improvement, as well as brain growth and more neural connections.

    The replication, survival, and organization of brain cells can be enhanced in many ways, Baggot concludes. "Case reports suggest that several nutrients and drugs are promising. Experiments with mouse models may lead to effective treatments. Proper timing of treatment is crucial."

    Importantly, "better understanding of brain development could benefit all children, not just those with Down syndrome."

    The Journal is the official, peer-reviewed publication of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS), a national organization representing physicians in all specialties, founded in 1943 to preserve private medicine and the patient-physician relationship.
    © Randy Engel


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    Re: World's Morality is Backward
    « Reply #4 on: November 07, 2018, 06:22:07 AM »
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  • About 80,000 infants are killed every day by infanticide (they call it abortion, like if it was a computer file). The world is insane.
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24


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    Re: World's Morality is Backward
    « Reply #5 on: November 07, 2018, 09:33:17 AM »
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  • I get your point Jaynek, but not the ad.  What in the world is "Endangered Syndrome"?  Some new thing modernists have come up with?!  Like, if you're handicapped or mentally retarded, you have to be on some list now?  
    You completely missed the point. 

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    Re: World's Morality is Backward
    « Reply #6 on: November 07, 2018, 09:00:13 PM »
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  • This is only part of a much larger problem.  The reason Kings usually only dealt with barbarians through conquest, is because it's the only language they understand.  It's also the only language the barbarians that make up the majority of the modern world will understand, as well.  Like it or not, the times ahead will be decided by blood and iron, and not much else.  You can't reason with people that view killing their own babies as a "right", but think making homosexuality illegal is an absolute evil.

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    Re: World's Morality is Backward
    « Reply #7 on: November 08, 2018, 04:16:01 PM »
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  • Canada is a very morally lost place!  Since they view themselves as subjects and have been so indoctrinated in political correctness and secularism, it's really a minor miracle that the Down Syndrome Society isn't advocating against abortion but for a more "merciful" abortion and even financial benefits for families that choose abortion.  The emptiness is very pervasive. 

    They are cruel to the weak and kind to the murderous.  Murderers not only do not get the death penalty but they usually only serve 5 -11 years in prison for murder.  It's really obnoxious.


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    Re: World's Morality is Backward
    « Reply #8 on: November 09, 2018, 01:42:14 PM »
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    Murderers not only do not get the death penalty but they usually only serve 5 -11 years in prison for murder.  It's really obnoxious.
    From what I understand, this comes from the all-encompassing will of the modern world to be seen as "civilized".  What the hell "civilized" even means at this point, considering that the Enlightenment changed its meaning completely, and then it continued to change every 100 years or so, is anyone's guess.  Usually what it means is "Violence and Punishment/Vengeance=Barbarism;Nonviolence and Rehabilitation=Civilized"  which is idiotic on many levels, but most people today are, both, governed almost entirely by "the feelies", and are so separated from having to get their hands dirty in any way, they'll decry such things as a moral atrocity without offering any explanation.

    The one thing guaranteed to be infinitely more evil than the strong oppressing the weak, is the weak oppressing the strong, and that's an objective fact.

     

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