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Offline Kephapaulos

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« on: February 17, 2007, 08:44:15 PM »
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  • Okay, I need some advice here. I have the notion of working in the summer for the government if my father knows of job offers from it since he works for the government. I als have the idea of if I could maybe work for the postal service someday. I am not sure if I should even consider working for the government at all though since we have much evil coming from it with which we deal right now. Nonetheless, would it be best to just not work at all for the government in a job my father could find out about or the postal service then?
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)


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    « Reply #1 on: February 17, 2007, 09:16:07 PM »
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  • You can do this.  They are not going to ask you to renounce your faith or say anything against religion.  You're just using the system against itself by taking their money to pay off the debts you owe them.  


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    « Reply #2 on: February 17, 2007, 09:35:36 PM »
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  • Why not ?  Postal service is evil ?...

    I think to the contrary, refusing a job your father can get you on the only ground that it may be evil (while it most certainly is not) is disrespectful to your father, and the work he has done himself... and to the financial means it provided him to raise you.  

    I am assuming he worked there quite some time of course.


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    « Reply #3 on: February 18, 2007, 01:12:28 AM »
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    Why not ?  Postal service is evil ?...

    I think to the contrary, refusing a job your father can get you on the only ground that it may be evil (while it most certainly is not) is disrespectful to your father, and the work he has done himself... and to the financial means it provided him to raise you.  

    I am assuming he worked there quite some time of course.



    Well, that is IF my father lets me know about some government job opportunity. It is the principles of the American government and nation that I cannot compromise with and that is the issue really.
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)

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    « Reply #4 on: February 18, 2007, 12:47:27 PM »
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    Well, that is IF my father lets me know about some government job opportunity.

    Obviously.

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    It is the principles of the American government and nation that I cannot compromise with and that is the issue really.


    Principles are important, and making sure that the "foot print" you leave in the world is positive is equally important.

    There are some effective principled way to do this; for instance, making sure what you buy and consume does not come from sources that exploit children or people working in horrible conditions....

    But frankly, refusing to perform a service that is a necessicity (Postal service is not an option) does not accomplish anything.  Your not making the world a better place by refusing by principle to perform a service that everyone needs.  Someone else will do it and that will be the end of it.

    In my opinion, your attitude is borderline sectarian in that your isolating yourself by principle.  
    You don't like your governement ?  Work to change it !  
    That is a positive and constructive enterprise.

    Lastly, if you cannot compromise, why do you even ask ?  Was it only to express your disgust at your country ?

    I don't want to be harsh... but I am challenging you.  In my opinion, you need a change of crowd.  

    But who am I, I hardly know you.

    EDIT: Lastly though, if you can find a job on your own that you feel would provide you better satisfaction, you should drive that agressively.

    Have a nice Sunday Keph!





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    « Reply #5 on: February 18, 2007, 01:37:45 PM »
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  • Should be ok... unless they ask you to take certain vaccines.
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    « Reply #6 on: February 18, 2007, 06:28:11 PM »
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    Principles are important, and making sure that the "foot print" you leave in the world is positive is equally important.

    There are some effective principled way to do this; for instance, making sure what you buy and consume does not come from sources that exploit children or people working in horrible conditions....

    But frankly, refusing to perform a service that is a necessicity (Postal service is not an option) does not accomplish anything.  Your not making the world a better place by refusing by principle to perform a service that everyone needs.  Someone else will do it and that will be the end of it.

    In my opinion, your attitude is borderline sectarian in that your isolating yourself by principle.  
    You don't like your governement ?  Work to change it !  
    That is a positive and constructive enterprise.


    I am simply considering the idea of working for the postal service or the government. Remember, the U.S. government began with anti-Catholic from the beginning. It would be very difficult then to even try to improve it just by working within it. The best way I see now is to simply touch the hearts of men via the Catholic faith. Then someday we could then have the "Catholic States of America."

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    Lastly, if you cannot compromise, why do you even ask ?  Was it only to express your disgust at your country ?

    I don't want to be harsh... but I am challenging you.  In my opinion, you need a change of crowd.  

    But who am I, I hardly know you.


    I am asking to see if there would be a problem with working for the government, but I am not trying to show disgust at my country itself insofar as there being any goodness in it. There have been good, honest, and hard-working Americans indeed that have built up this country who may have been well-meaning (even if not Catholic), but because of the principles of the nation and its government, the U.S. has been declining as a society ever since it began.

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    EDIT: Lastly though, if you can find a job on your own that you feel would provide you better satisfaction, you should drive that agressively.

    Have a nice Sunday Keph!


    I am simply thinking of what I could do after graduating from college, although I consider moreso right now then doing something concerning my major: nuclear medicine.

    You have a nice Sunday too, Vandaler! And a blessed Ash Wednesday as well!  :smile:
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)

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    « Reply #7 on: February 18, 2007, 07:44:59 PM »
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    The best way I see now is to simply touch the hearts of men via the Catholic faith.


    And this is all you can do.

    Remember, you are personally not likely to convert America any more then you are to convert Procter and Gamble or Boeing.  It is those around you that you can touch... no matter who they are, or who sign their paycheck.


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    « Reply #8 on: February 19, 2007, 12:46:02 AM »
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  • Well, as long as you're not too dependent on a government job (so you could leave it if you had to), it would be fine.

    The government will be the most compliant with any new government program (get this chip implanted, swear this oath, etc.)

    But for right now it should be ok.


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    « Reply #9 on: February 20, 2007, 01:45:58 PM »
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  • Hmm, what's the annual salary for Postal workers?
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