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Title: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: ProLife on June 11, 2019, 11:12:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQr6NU_ORv4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQr6NU_ORv4)
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: 800 Cruiser on June 11, 2019, 03:43:12 PM
That is one rough poem. 
I hope he read it, and takes the time to sit with his wife and gently guide her, and also find out why she is feeling like this. 
This is a sad state of affairs. 
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: Cera on July 05, 2019, 06:29:45 PM
There is a world of difference between:
Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
and
One woman wants men to get no sleep and still provide for family.
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: Seraphina on July 05, 2019, 09:35:03 PM
Let this liberal female speak for herself.  She certainly doesn't speak for me.
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: Ascetik on July 06, 2019, 12:50:23 PM
Not sure what she's expecting him to do, she needs to get over herself. Having an infant is tough, but it doesn't last forever.

150 years ago people would have just laughed at her, but today because of our culture her whiny "poetic" rants make her 'brave', which in turn causes her to resent her spouse even more over something he doesn't have much control over.

Look, your husband doesn't have boobs with milk, what do you want from him? Quit whining. Women like this should be slapped in the face.
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: jvk on July 06, 2019, 07:55:32 PM
I'd like to know when it became the norm that men were expected to start helping with the babies, anyway.  
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: Last Tradhican on July 07, 2019, 02:19:48 AM
I didn't listen to the video but long enough to hear her voice and accent. That said, TODAY, there are men who are not the primary providers, they actually are basically living off the woman. The babies are bottle fed. They have one child, maybe, two.

In a trad Catholic family, the man is the sole provider, the woman takes care of the children, the house,  some even the homeschooling, and babies are breast fed.

Two totally different scenarios.  
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: apollo on July 07, 2019, 04:23:48 AM
Another modern woman whining about a man.  Just move along.  Nothing new here. 
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: Matthew on July 07, 2019, 07:20:24 PM
There is a world of difference between:
Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
and
One woman wants men to get no sleep and still provide for family.

To be honest, English doesn't imply any percentage of women in that sentence.

"Men kill sheep for fun at Speedway on July 4th"
There is an assumed [some] at the beginning of the sentence.

To remove the ambiguity, you could include "a few", "some", "most" or "all" at the beginning of the sentence. But in English, if you leave that detail out, "a few" or "some" is assumed.
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: Ladislaus on July 07, 2019, 08:30:59 PM
To be honest, English doesn't imply any percentage of women in that sentence.

"Men kill sheep for fun at Speedway on July 4th"
There is an assumed [some] at the beginning of the sentence.

To remove the ambiguity, you could include "a few", "some", "most" or "all" at the beginning of the sentence. But in English, if you leave that detail out, "a few" or "some" is assumed.

Well, if we're being picky technical, her statement that this thread only proves ONE (singular) WOMAN vs. the thread title WOMEN (plural) is correct.  This video is the opinion of one woman.
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: MaterDominici on July 07, 2019, 08:48:52 PM
If we're being really fair, it should be noted that the author said the poem was written in jest (although inspired by a stressful night) and that she laughed about it with her husband the next day.

As to those women who were agreeing with her sentiments, I'd want to know whether or not they have to work the next day before I'd be too critical. The author, while not exactly a stay-at-home mom, was on maternity leave and had agreed to take care of the baby at night until her maternity leave ended. So, perhaps the poem is just foreshadowing what she'll be thinking in a couple of months.

The idea that men should help care for the baby of course goes hand-in-hand with the idea that women should be proving half the income.

(Info is all from the link below the video.)
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: Ladislaus on July 07, 2019, 09:29:17 PM
Our first child suffered with intense colic.  I don't think I slept for about 6 months.  I was at a meeting at work and fell asleep sitting there in my chair, to notice people snickering as I snapped out of it.  Unless the father finds some cave in which to seclude himself, he'll be awoken by the baby's night-time antics as much as the mother.  So I'm not sure that this is even a real issue.
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: SusanneT on July 09, 2019, 04:59:24 PM
I'd like to know when it became the norm that men were expected to start helping with the babies, anyway.  
Other than though necessity (for example following bereavement) I guess it was when feminists started telling women that motherhood was beneath them !
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: jvk on July 09, 2019, 09:19:00 PM
Our first child suffered with intense colic.  I don't think I slept for about 6 months.  I was at a meeting at work and fell asleep sitting there in my chair, to notice people snickering as I snapped out of it.  Unless the father finds some cave in which to seclude himself, he'll be awoken by the baby's night-time antics as much as the mother.  So I'm not sure that this is even a real issue.
Haha!  My husband can sleep through anything.  One night 2 children threw up all over our bedroom carpet...and me, while I was IN the bed...and he slept right on through.  Even with the sick baby crying.  Unless maybe he was faking.... :furtive:
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: Joseantoniano on July 09, 2019, 11:57:40 PM
Women in the title shouldn't be plural. Other than that, I don't see anything wrong with the topic, though.
Title: Re: Women want men to get no sleep and still provide for family
Post by: Joseantoniano on July 10, 2019, 12:01:10 AM
Other than though necessity (for example following bereavement) I guess it was when feminists started telling women that motherhood was beneath them !
I don't understand how women can think motherhood is beneath them when motherhood is objectively one of the most important jobs that exists and is a task where the woman is basically constructing the future. I suppose the opposite is pure egoism and I suppose this might be why so many feminist types seem so self-centered.
I don't understand self-centeredness. Being self-centered is against one's own self-interest. It's in a person's own interest to not be selfish. To be an entirely atomized individual is not in one's self-interest.