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Offline Maria Dolorosa

Re: Women regretting college
« Reply #175 on: Yesterday at 06:38:48 PM »
Quote from: AnthonyPadua on April 22, 2026, 05:47:53 AM
In Saint Peter Canisius Catechism (the doctor spoke at Trent), in particular the footnotes St Peter used when addressing the very Canon on Justification.

See

https://endtimes.video/council-of-trent-catechism-st-peter-canisius/

Has both text form under the video and video if that's what you prefer.
I’m not trying to continue a debate about BOD here, but I wish to be polite and respond to what you charitably sent to me. 

Thank you, I have seen the video and read the original text before. 

I accept the Catechism but not the Dimond brothers’ view on it. The reason I do not find it convincing is because the argument for baptism of desire and of blood is not what the Dimond brothers assert; it is not an exclusion of the sacrament of baptism, but a participation in the sacrament. 

In other words, BOD and BOB are contained in the sacrament. Every catechism will affirm the absolute necessity of the sacrament, and we should not try to make it seem like statements of BOD and BOB later in these catechisms is somehow a contradiction.

There is no time in Church history that I am aware of, where approved and learned clergy were gravely mistaken on what defined dogmas meant. 

Your assertions regarding St. Alphonsus and St. Robert Bellarmine would make more sense if the saints said these things before Trent or somehow not knowing about Trent, like to the situation you described with St. Augustine. Maybe we could discuss further if you would like to on another thread, but only if you wish. I’m fine either way. 
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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: Women regretting college
« Reply #176 on: Today at 02:24:25 AM »
Quote from: Maria Dolorosa on Yesterday at 06:16:29 PM
Nanny’s and house cleaners make a decent amount of money. This is the perfect way for a woman to support herself if it is necessary, while still honouring her feminine role.

I have personally known women whose marriages did not work out, and I firmly believe the reason why God provided for their temporal needs despite being in very trying circuмstances, is because they chose to honour His design by remaining stay at home mothers.


Exactly.


Even the economic argument for women going to college makes ZERO sense, when you study it.



You can only make it when you presuppose that their function in society and very nature is somewhat similar to men. You can only make it when you have a open or secret disdain of their role as mothers.
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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

Re: Women regretting college
« Reply #177 on: Today at 02:30:17 AM »
Women have extremely sensitive natures and their formation of character in the early years is absolutely crucial. More so than men in a way.

If they have been soiled with masculine thinking it is very hard for them to be feminine.

Calculating "I will do this in case my husband falls sick", is to pit men against women in an adversarial way. 'I can't fully rely on God', is what it says. 'I will keep something to myself.'

God acts through a wife's husband. So to be calculating ahead of him is almost like saying "I'll keep my protestant bible here under the drawer in case this whole catholicism thing doesn't work out"

Women are creatures of the heart and if they start this kind of calculating, they wear down their own ability to give themselves with joy to their vocation. They carve out a piece of their heart in a way.
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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Women regretting college
« Reply #178 on: Today at 02:50:37 AM »
Quote from: Maria Dolorosa on Yesterday at 06:38:48 PM
I’m not trying to continue a debate about BOD here, but I wish to be polite and respond to what you charitably sent to me.

Thank you, I have seen the video and read the original text before.

I accept the Catechism but not the Dimond brothers’ view on it. The reason I do not find it convincing is because the argument for baptism of desire and of blood is not what the Dimond brothers assert; it is not an exclusion of the sacrament of baptism, but a participation in the sacrament.

In other words, BOD and BOB are contained in the sacrament. Every catechism will affirm the absolute necessity of the sacrament, and we should not try to make it seem like statements of BOD and BOB later in these catechisms is somehow a contradiction.

There is no time in Church history that I am aware of, where approved and learned clergy were gravely mistaken on what defined dogmas meant.

Your assertions regarding St. Alphonsus and St. Robert Bellarmine would make more sense if the saints said these things before Trent or somehow not knowing about Trent, like to the situation you described with St. Augustine. Maybe we could discuss further if you would like to on another thread, but only if you wish. I’m fine either way.
Im short on time so.

1. The key with St Peter is that he quoted both St Augustine and Ambrose that water baptism is necessary to all, with the footnote being on the discussion on the very canon people false claim teach BoD.

2. BoD has never been defined by the Church. Your statement about clergy being mistaken is circular. 

3. The Church was very clear that denial of geocentrism was proximate to heresy (and other things outright heresy) yet that didn't stop Catholics from disagreeing (to their own wicked judgement) despite it being defined.

I don't want to discuss this over and over. All these points Ladi and others have gone in detail in past threads.
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