Author Topic: Women in University (Read 8426 times)

MichaelSolimanto · « **Reply #30 on:** November 03, 2007, 12:02:19 AM »

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It's pride to think of yourself higher than what you are. To make such statements over and over again shows a high degree of arrogance, which is usually preceded by ignorance. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I'm telling you out of charity.

Then, I'm telling you out of charity, that your posts literally ooze of arrogance and condescension. Perhaps you really would catch more flies with honey rather than vinegar? :confused1:

So telling someone the truth is condescending? What should I say?

JoanScholastica · « **Reply #31 on:** November 04, 2007, 01:44:31 AM »

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Only an anti-Catholic feminist would encourage women being educated beyond that which is necessary for her survival.

This is ABSURD.

In what way, gladius? I hope you explain it to me.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #32 on:** November 04, 2007, 10:30:28 PM »

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So telling someone the truth is condescending? What should I say?

It is not the 'what', Mike. A statement can be truthful, yet delivered in a condescending manner. It is not always what you say, but HOW YOU SAY IT.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #33 on:** November 04, 2007, 10:36:07 PM »

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I hope you explain it to me.

I believe Vandaler pointed out that one need not know how to use utensils in order to merely survive. There are countless things that make life more pleasant that are not necessary for mere survival.

A woman ought to develop her God-given talents. In doing such, she will be (if called to the married state) a more graceful, pleasant and helpful companion to her husband, and mother to her children. It is thus that she shall please God.

Civilization is not built upon the premise of mere survival. We are meant to develop our natural gifts, upon which God builds a most beautiful supernatural edifice.

JoanScholastica · « **Reply #34 on:** November 05, 2007, 12:33:38 AM »

Thanks for that, gladius. I understand your point.

Happywife · « **Reply #35 on:** November 05, 2007, 12:38:00 AM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

Quote from: JoanScholastica
I hope you explain it to me.

I believe Vandaler pointed out that one need not know how to use utensils in order to merely survive. There are countless things that make life more pleasant that are not necessary for mere survival.

A woman ought to develop her God-given talents. In doing such, she will be (if called to the married state) a more graceful, pleasant and helpful companion to her husband, and mother to her children. It is thus that she shall please God.

Civilization is not built upon the premise of mere survival. We are meant to develop our natural gifts, upon which God builds a most beautiful supernatural edifice.

Exactly! If a woman were only educated for survival she:

-could cook only porridge or some other nasty filling item
-wouldn't know how to do laundry or clean house
-wouldn't know how to do crafts, sew, or other nice things
-wouldn't know how to read or write (we are talking survival here)
-the list goes on and geets even more silly.

There are plenty of things we must know which far exceed survival and they are things it is lovely to know as well. "Survival" is a bit strong...

Vandaler · « **Reply #36 on:** November 05, 2007, 08:32:03 AM »

There is no need to be concerned with this sensational survival statement. It was dropped without any clues as to the degree of seriousness, or anyway to determine what was meant by survival. No clarification was provided either in the ensuing discussion.

If one person does not feel the need to clarify his statements so as to be understood properly, why should you make the effort on his behalf ?

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gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #37 on:** November 05, 2007, 10:18:28 AM »

Although I thank you for your two cents, Vandaler, the fact that the remark was "dropped" in a thoughtless manner simply proves the point that it was a remark that deserves being hammered.

A thinking man does not drop thoughtless remarks in the midst of a serious discussion, especially one that can easily get rather intense.

gilbertgea · « **Reply #38 on:** November 05, 2007, 10:21:27 AM »

"There is no need to be concerned with this sensational survival statement. It was dropped without any clues as to the degree of seriousness, or anyway to determine what was meant by survival. No clarification was provided either in the ensuing discussion."

Thus spake his non-traditional Catholicity.

Vandaler · « **Reply #39 on:** November 05, 2007, 10:33:26 AM »

Agreed Gladius,

One can contain a message by placing it in it's proper context, or go to the source of the problem, which I think is a lack of accountability.

Vandaler · « **Reply #40 on:** November 05, 2007, 10:34:29 AM »

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"There is no need to be concerned with this sensational survival statement. It was dropped without any clues as to the degree of seriousness, or anyway to determine what was meant by survival. No clarification was provided either in the ensuing discussion."

Thus spake his non-traditional Catholicity.

I suppose you mean by the above, that we will add this item to the index of statements you won't explain ? I hope not.

Dulcamara · « **Reply #41 on:** November 05, 2007, 04:36:55 PM »

I attend God's university. (Life.) I feel that's enough for me. I don't need an institution to learn things, and I certainly don't need to be a career woman.

JoanScholastica · « **Reply #42 on:** November 05, 2007, 05:02:32 PM »

Interestingly enough and perfectly said! I congratulate you, Dulcamara!

Vandaler · « **Reply #43 on:** November 05, 2007, 05:37:20 PM »

Guess we're all classmates then.

Dulcamara · « **Reply #44 on:** November 05, 2007, 10:50:44 PM »

Here's hoping we all graduate. :wink: