Author Topic: Women going to college? (Read 47063 times)

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #70 on:** April 24, 2012, 09:12:37 PM »

Quote from: Clelia

Quote from: Sede Catholic
Clelia,

You say that you are not a Feminist.

You possibly genuinely mean that.

But you have imbibed Feminist principles.

You are simply wrong in some of what you have posted on this thread.

Try to see the truth.

Pray to the Immaculate Heart of Mary for the grace to see the truth and to accept it.

Pray to God the Holy Ghost for guidance.

I do hope that you come to understand what God really intends for girls and women in life.

God Bless you, Clelia.

I am NOT a feminist!

I went to college in the 70's, and I AGREE that it CAN be a cesspool of filth and erroneous teaching to boot.

...You men make it sound like women are not worth educating...

God Bless you all.

Dear Clelia,

God Bless you as well.

Women are worth much more than educating in a way that only does harm.

My point was that you have imbibed some of the lies told to you.

I do not disparage women at all.

It is just frustrating that they are being led away from what God has planned for

them by all these lies and

deceptions.

I think you have many good points and I hope that you can iron out the confusion that these liars have instilled

into your soul.

God Bless you, Clelia.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #71 on:** April 24, 2012, 09:33:47 PM »

Quote from: Clelia

Who said anything about "The Rule?" My point is there are possibilities for women to further their education for the good of their souls, their families, and society. God calls us in different ways to serve.

Again, women who intend to marry should not go to college.

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Men and women are not equal; but St. Catherine of Sienna might have a thing or two to say to you men.

She'd have a thing or two to say to all the career women out there, I think.

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There are schools that are better than others, and good and holy Catholic women have been able to learn to be excellent Catholic nurses, doctors, social workers, AND good mothers and NOT ALL WOMEN WHO GO TO COLLEGE are putting off marriage and family - THAT is the point: not all women loose their souls IF they are fortified with The True Faith and PRAYER.

I personally think the average Catholic woman would be better of marrying at a young age than going to college. Just because she is a good Catholic does not mean she should put herself in such an ocassion of sin. I can say I'm a good Catholic all I want.... wouldn't change the fact that I shouldn't go to a bar, for instance.

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You men make it sound like women are not worth educating, rather than give rational caveats and warnings that indeed would be helpful to readers here, instead of one-size pantyhose fits all.

There have been plenty of women (and men) throughout history who received proper education without attending college.

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Wouldn't it be wonderful if there were more men like YOU for a Traditional Catholic young lady to choose from. Otherwise, she must learn to support herself, perhaps help her future husband even if only part-time while raising the children, and maybe she will not find a suitable and loving mate at all. Maybe she will choose to be chaste and not selfish, but serving in her field. Maybe many realities that do not fit your one-way thinking.

This is simply an uncharitable ad hominem attack on us for saying women should not go to college. We all know you're not a feminist, but you are unintentionally supporting a view that feminists themselves hold. We're trying to help you realize why that is wrong, not put you down.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #72 on:** April 24, 2012, 10:21:57 PM »

Clelia, you seem like a kind woman that strives to be a good Catholic, but we are just trying to help you realize that women who intend to marry shouldn't go to college. In fact, college should pretty much be avoided by both men and women, as Spork pointed out on page one of this thread. That's not to say there aren't certain situations where people have to attend, but in general it is an ocassion of sin.

Clelia · « **Reply #73 on:** April 25, 2012, 05:37:39 PM »

I think you guys need to attend courses in reality.

But, getting to know this much about you, being practiced in the art of politely but firmly putting down women and making sure they stay in their place utilizing just the right little slams and labels so we might cry and run away from a discussion that is simply too much for us little women who have been imbibed with liberal ideas has been very enlightening.

Save it for yourselves.

And have a nice day.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #74 on:** April 25, 2012, 05:54:03 PM »

Quote from: Clelia

I think you guys need to attend courses in reality.

But, getting to know this much about you, being practiced in the art of politely but firmly putting down women and making sure they stay in their place utilizing just the right little slams and labels so we might cry and run away from a discussion that is simply too much for us little women who have been imbibed with liberal ideas has been very enlightening.

Save it for yourselves.

And have a nice day.

Clelia, let's talk about the reality today.

1) The reality today is that most young men are treated very badly by most young women, and have fewer opportunities for earning a respectable family wage than before.

2) The reality today is that most young women delay marriage a long time, and are not chaste before marriage. Not just a matter of impure thoughts or bad movies or magazines and novels, but giving themselves to men not their husbands. The excuse given for delaying marriage is that they need "education" and "career" - and that they "have their whole life in front of them" - what's the reality? The reality is that most, at least a plurality of women are interested in the sort of men who will never marry them, but who will use them as harlots.

3) The birth-rate is lower than ever before

4) The rate of illegitimacy is higher than ever before.

5) the rate at which people live in marriage is lower than before

6) the rate of divorce has never been higher.

Men have nothing to gain and only to lose by marrying unchaste women who want a man to take care of them and a baby or two. The laws are absolutely stacked against them.

No respectable man wants the sort of woman who would have rejected him 10 years ago, but now wants him as a meal ticket and as a way to get pregnant. Only a fool will marry a woman like that. And to think there are wicked people trying to shame men into that!

Now these are generalizations. They obviously don't apply to everyone. The idea that women should not go to college is a generalization. It need not apply to everyone.

But it's common sense. What is she doing there?

A young woman who wants to marry is at the peak of her desirability. She only loses desirability as she waits. So why do women wait? Because no man will marry them? That is a rationalization. There are men who will marry them. The men they desire as young women are not the sort of men who will commit to women like that. More often than not. Indeed, it's so bad I think that some of these women will reject a man if they think he's in love with her, whereas when they didn't think that, they sought his attention! Loving a girl has become "creepy"!