Author Topic: Women going to college? (Read 47070 times)

Caraffa · « **Reply #60 on:** April 23, 2012, 11:58:30 PM »

Quote from: Clelia

I only agree with that because it is true of many women. NOT ALL.

The Church does NOT TEACH that this is THE ONLY role of women!
It teaches to be fruitful and multiply, but if we do not find a good and loving mate right away, we ought to get some kind of education in the best possible school armed with the True Faith and be a true helpmate to our husbands if the need arises.

One also does not have to go college in order to be "educated." We must understand the word education in a Catholic sense and not in a modern way.

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Or, to be a good Doctor like St. Giana Molla.

The St. Gianna Molla's are the expections, not the rule. The enthusiasts would have us believe that such things are possible for all women, but such is not the case.

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A highly educated and trained Heart Surgeon saved my Dad's life about 15 years ago. I was grateful.

And your father's soul?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #61 on:** April 24, 2012, 01:17:11 AM »

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I am strictly speaking of single women in my last comment when I say that I find no evil in a college education.

That I doubt very much. Perhaps you don't wish to see any evil in it?

Because the reality of what goes in colleges is very obvious. It was obvious to my mother in the early 70s. I'm sure it's ten times as pernicious now. if you think godless companions and their values are not harmful, you are deluding yourself.

MrsZ · « **Reply #62 on:** April 24, 2012, 05:57:37 PM »

I have been and still am very concerned about negative influences on my children...at jobs, or college ...or really anywhere. I don't want to send our daughter off to war, or even to college (Catholic or not) hundreds or thousands of miles from where we live.

But as I mentioned earlier in this thread: we live where we live. The options are very limited. We don't have family around, we have no Catholic friends (who aren't worldly and sending their kids to college miles away)...There is no Traditional Latin Mass parish within 250 miles from here.

I have been beseeching God for years to change our circuмstances and He has continued to will or allow this situation to remain. My task all this time is to stop railing against Him, and trust in His Divine Plan. Maybe it's been my lack of trust all this time that has caused us to find no opportunities that would change our circuмstances.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #63 on:** April 24, 2012, 07:45:58 PM »

Yes, Mrs. Z,

You are right in your concern.

College is another very bad option for your daughter.

These places are incredibly anti-Catholic.

If she is troubled in her soul now, then think what could happen to her precious soul at college.

They could turn her against the Faith.

Then there is the totally immoral and carnal atmosphere at colleges.

It is good that you are not hoping college is the answer.

It could start new problems instead of solving the present ones.

Has she ever thought of the religious life?

Are things this bad because she was intended by God for the religious life, and she has not understood?

I do not know the answer to that at all. I am just wondering if it is a possibility.

But I am only a layman. And I am just wondering.

How happy if your daughter does have a vocation.

The Council of Trent infallibly teaches us that marriage is not to be preferred to the state of virginity:

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If anyone saith that the marriage state is to be preferred before the state of virginity, let him be anathema.

Sede Catholic.

Clelia · « **Reply #64 on:** April 24, 2012, 08:19:47 PM »

Quote from: Caraffa

Quote from: Clelia

I only agree with that because it is true of many women. NOT ALL.

The Church does NOT TEACH that this is THE ONLY role of women!
It teaches to be fruitful and multiply, but if we do not find a good and loving mate right away, we ought to get some kind of education in the best possible school armed with the True Faith and be a true helpmate to our husbands if the need arises.

One also does not have to go college in order to be "educated." We must understand the word education in a Catholic sense and not in a modern way.

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Or, to be a good Doctor like St. Giana Molla.

The St. Gianna Molla's are the expections, not the rule. The enthusiasts would have us believe that such things are possible for all women, but such is not the case.

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A highly educated and trained Heart Surgeon saved my Dad's life about 15 years ago. I was grateful.

And your father's soul?

Who said anything about "The Rule?" My point is there are possibilities for women to further their education for the good of their souls, their families, and society. God calls us in different ways to serve.

BTW: my Father's soul is a work in progress like you, me, any everyone else. What are you trying to do, challenge his Faith because a woman Doctor saved His life by the grace of God? Mighty uppity.

Dad was a seminarian who left because of the garbage that existed even back on the 40's. Obviously, he wasn't meant to be a priest, but, he lives an life as a devoted Catholic and CREDO is his motto. He reads and studies his Vulgate and prayers in Latin, and has been a good Catholic man, husband, and Father. He goes to Confession like every other struggling Catholic and puts his Traditional Catholic pants on like you and everybody else.

I didn't realize a female doctor would cause so much scrutiny and judgement of his soul for allowing an educated woman to be his surgeon.

I am not uncharitable, here - I am not a feminist, either.

People need to answer God's call for worthy service. Indeed, marriage is to beget babies and train souls. If there is no marriage and those people choose a holy life of chaste service, that is not a sin. That service may entail training. Get over it. God's Will be done; NOT our own "superiority". Men and women are not equal; but St. Catherine of Sienna might have a thing or two to say to you men.