Author Topic: Women going to college? (Read 46975 times)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #45 on:** April 23, 2012, 09:15:54 PM »

Women tend to respond to the values of the dominant social group.

If young women, during the most fertile years, are sent to colleges that promote incredibly corrupt morals, then how can anyone expect the influence to be positive?

They will lucky to come out from the experience with the Faith, and their suitability for motherhood will likely be diminished.

Look at the social trends in all societies where women typically go to college.

It has been absolutely disastrous for marriage and family.

Clelia · « **Reply #46 on:** April 23, 2012, 09:17:18 PM »

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It teaches to be fruitful and multiply, but if we do not find a good and loving mate right away, we ought to get some kind of education in the best possible school armed with the True Faith and be a true helpmate to our husbands if the need arises.

When has the Church ever taught this?

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This sounds more like a Chauvenist position rather than a rational one.

I think men who lazily encourage their wives to work are the ones with the Chauvenist position.

Genesis 2:18
And the Lord God said: It is not good for man to be alone: let us make him a help like unto himself.

Again, you speak of some men. Many men do not wish their wives to work, but must support them when need arises. Or they are Doctors. Good ones with the Faith.

Don't discount there are many good women who God calls to do good and holy waork in many fields. There is not one path that fits everyone.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #47 on:** April 23, 2012, 09:19:48 PM »

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understandable if she is a mother neglecting her duty to her children and husband, but single women are free to choose. If its not morally wrong then it cant be mortally wrong.

It's wrong to go into bad company without a legitimate reason. There's not a legitimate reason for women to be soldiers. And I don't believe for a second that the motivation is to "serve the country."

This isn't some Joan of Arc, acting on angelic voices, leading men into battle to save her country.

This is a young woman going into a corrupt military, with corrupt values a corrupt military culture, fighting wars that are probably unjust.

And for what purpose? What's the real motivation? To get out of the house?

Clelia · « **Reply #48 on:** April 23, 2012, 09:24:35 PM »

We have two different threads, here:

1. Military
2. College

Perhaps it would be better to separate these. The posts are getting confusing.

I am going to sleep, folks. The peace of Christ.

egoveritas · « **Reply #49 on:** April 23, 2012, 09:25:59 PM »

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[how does a degree in math not help in the education of children? a degree in english? a degree in history? chemistry? science? biology? physics? etc,etc....

There's nothing preventing a married woman who really wants to from taking courses and studying math, history, chemistry, etc.

If that was the real reason young women went to college, to help to educate their children, they would do it whether they were married or with children or not.

But married women with children would quickly realize the folly of spending time and money on such pursuits. The idea that a girl would go to college to study math to later teach her homeschooled children math is absurd.

That's not why they go. The motivations have to do with pride, and far worse.

I only agree with that because it is true of many women. NOT ALL.

The Church does NOT TEACH that this is THE ONLY role of women!
It teaches to be fruitful and multiply, but if we do not find a good and loving mate right away, we ought to get some kind of education in the best possible school armed with the True Faith and be a true helpmate to our husbands if the need arises. Or, to be a good Doctor like St. Giana Molla. This sounds more like a Chauvenist position rather than a rational one.

@tele. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE THE INTENTION AND MOTIVES OF YOUNG WOMEN IN COLLEGE! I KNOW PLENTY OF YOUNG WOMEN GOING TO SCHOOL FOR THE REASON OF BEING AN EDUCATED WIFE AND SOMEDAY, GOD WILLING, TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN. NOT TO MENTION RELIGIOUS, SUCH AS NUNS WHOSE ENTIRE LIVES ARE SPENT EDUCATING THE IGNORANT; NOT ONLY IN THE FAITH BUT ALL ASPECTS OF EDUCATION. YOU ARE A CHAUVINISTIC, NARCISSISTIC, BELLIGERENT PIG. OF ALL THE CRISIS' FACING THE CHURCH YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ARGUING FEMINISM WHICH SEEMS TO SUGGEST A STRONG INSECURITY IN YOURSELF AGAINST THIS SEX.