Women tend to respond to the values of the dominant social group.

If young women, during the most fertile years, are sent to colleges that promote incredibly corrupt morals, then how can anyone expect the influence to be positive?

They will lucky to come out from the experience with the Faith, and their suitability for motherhood will likely be diminished.

Look at the social trends in all societies where women typically go to college.  

It has been absolutely disastrous for marriage and family.

understandable if she is a mother neglecting her duty to her children and husband, but single women are free to choose. If its not morally wrong then it cant be mortally wrong.  

It's wrong to go into bad company without a legitimate reason.  There's not a legitimate reason for women to be soldiers.  And I don't believe for a second that the motivation is to "serve the country."  

This isn't some Joan of Arc, acting on angelic voices, leading men into battle to save her country.

This is a young woman going into a corrupt military, with corrupt values a corrupt military culture, fighting wars that are probably unjust.

And for what purpose?  What's the real motivation?  To get out of the house?

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[how does a degree in math not help in the education of children? a degree in english? a degree in history? chemistry? science? biology? physics? etc,etc....  

There's nothing preventing a married woman who really wants to from taking courses and studying math, history, chemistry, etc.

If that was the real reason young women went to college, to help to educate their children, they would do it whether they were married or with children or not.

But married women with children would quickly realize the folly of spending time and money on such pursuits.  The idea that a girl would go to college to study math to later teach her homeschooled children math is absurd.

That's not why they go.  The motivations have to do with pride, and far worse.

I only agree with that because it is true of many women. NOT ALL.

The Church does NOT TEACH that this is THE ONLY role of women!
It teaches to be fruitful and multiply, but if we do not find a good and loving mate right away, we ought to get some kind of education in the best possible school armed with the True Faith and be a true helpmate to our husbands if the need arises. Or, to be a good Doctor like St. Giana Molla. This sounds more like a Chauvenist position rather than a rational one.

@tele. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE THE INTENTION AND MOTIVES OF YOUNG WOMEN IN COLLEGE! I KNOW PLENTY OF YOUNG WOMEN GOING TO SCHOOL FOR THE REASON OF BEING AN EDUCATED WIFE AND SOMEDAY, GOD WILLING, TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN. NOT TO MENTION RELIGIOUS, SUCH AS NUNS WHOSE ENTIRE LIVES ARE SPENT EDUCATING THE IGNORANT; NOT ONLY IN THE FAITH BUT ALL ASPECTS OF EDUCATION. YOU ARE A CHAUVINISTIC, NARCISSISTIC, BELLIGERENT PIG. OF ALL THE CRISIS' FACING THE CHURCH YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ARGUING FEMINISM WHICH SEEMS TO SUGGEST A STRONG INSECURITY IN YOURSELF AGAINST THIS SEX.    

@tele. WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE THE INTENTION AND MOTIVES OF YOUNG WOMEN IN COLLEGE!

I don't judge them as individuals.  I look at how they as a group behave, and the temptations they're subject to, and the way in which they scorn those who marry early, and the way endless excuses are made for loose conduct.  Sometimes they no doubt convince themselves their intentions are good.  But that easily becomes a rationalization.

I KNOW PLENTY OF YOUNG WOMEN GOING TO SCHOOL FOR THE REASON OF BEING AN EDUCATED WIFE AND SOMEDAY, GOD WILLING, TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN.

It's certainly possible to teach children without a degree.  Women don't go to college and spend all that money just to take a job (that they probably took from a man) and then quit after a few years when they decided to "settle" and have children.

NOT TO MENTION RELIGIOUS, SUCH AS NUNS WHOSE ENTIRE LIVES ARE SPENT EDUCATING THE IGNORANT; NOT ONLY IN THE FAITH BUT ALL ASPECTS OF EDUCATION.

As though I were mentioning religious.  Is that why the young women go to college?  And like to party until they're 25?  Right.  

YOU ARE A CHAUVINISTIC, NARCISSISTIC, BELLIGERENT PIG. OF ALL THE CRISIS' FACING THE CHURCH YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ARGUING FEMINISM WHICH SEEMS TO SUGGEST A STRONG INSECURITY IN YOURSELF AGAINST THIS SEX.    

The destruction of the family caused by the destruction of the chastity of women (because women's chastity is more crucial to the existence of the family) is destroying the Catholic religion.

I'm secure enough to assert that women who are unchaste because of spending the best 10 years of their lives "looking" do not make suitable wives.

It's natural for women to want to be courted.  To find a mate.

The problem is that college has become a terrible place to find a mate, especially for a traditional Catholic.

It has become a place where immorality and promiscuity reigns.

Everyone knows that most women go to college in large part to seek a mate.  This is part of their motivation, and they find rationalizations for it.

The danger is that this natural desire in an evil society becomes an occasion of uncontrolled concupiscence.  And in modern society, it leads some young Trad Catholic girls into harlotry.

YOU ARE A CHAUVINISTIC, NARCISSISTIC, BELLIGERENT PIG. OF ALL THE CRISIS' FACING THE CHURCH YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ARGUING FEMINISM WHICH SEEMS TO SUGGEST A STRONG INSECURITY IN YOURSELF AGAINST THIS SEX.

Anyone who calls a Trad chauvinistic for saying women shouldn't work outside the home is not right in the head.

Feminism is just as important to discuss as the crisis in the Church. We are free to discuss what we want. Perhaps you would be more comfortable on FishEaters.

Dear egoveritas,

I wrote what I wrote to protect others from being adversely influenced by your erroneous ideas.

I really do hope that you come to see the truth.

CathInfo is such a good forum.

If you persevere here, you will learn the truth about these issues and many other things.

I will say a prayer for you.

I hope that you will end up with the truth. It is so important.

Feminism makes women miserable on earth. And it also imperils their eternal happiness in Heaven.

. Perhaps you would be more comfortable on FishEaters.

I'd rather she stay here for the time being that have her mind corrupted over there.